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Originally posted by Infinite-Possibilities View PostSo I stumbled onto this video recently. Is it any of you guys' videos?
Originally posted by JT-2 View PostI added one too. I can think of tons more, without even stretching.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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I started my S4/S5 re-watch tonight, beginning with First Strike (yes, dear readers I know that's S3 - but it seemed like a good place to start). I'll post my random thoughts to my LJ tomorrow, I guess.
But anyway, I watched Conversion afterwards to get the stench of First Strike out of my head. Did Caldwell have the Goa'uld inside his head by that episode? Did they ever give a timeline for that? And this does relate to Sparky, because I'm wondering if Caldwell's flirting in that episode was really him or not.
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Originally posted by JT-2 View PostI started my S4/S5 re-watch tonight, beginning with First Strike (yes, dear readers I know that's S3 - but it seemed like a good place to start). I'll post my random thoughts to my LJ tomorrow, I guess.
But anyway, I watched Conversion afterwards to get the stench of First Strike out of my head. Did Caldwell have the Goa'uld inside his head by that episode? Did they ever give a timeline for that? And this does relate to Sparky, because I'm wondering if Caldwell's flirting in that episode was really him or not.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Infinite-Possibilities View PostSo I stumbled onto this video recently. Is it any of you guys' videos?I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Anuna View Post
Are we keeping the Sparky moments to once/day or can we just vote as much as we want to. It's just us and not a contest, so I wouldn't think it would matter.
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Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Fluffy Thursday!
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Originally posted by Southern Red View PostI'd never heard of them, but I really like that song.
Will do, after 1:11pm that is.
Are we keeping the Sparky moments to once/day or can we just vote as much as we want to. It's just us and not a contest, so I wouldn't think it would matter.(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostGood morning, Sparkies! Happy Fluffy Thursday!
As did I.
I certainly don't have an objection. Post as many per day as you like.I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostThe only reference to a timeline was in "Critical Mass" itself, when Cadman discovers the gap in the computer records (which was the tip off to the sabotage); she says it occurred "several weeks ago." The last time we saw Caldwell prior to "Critical Mass" is "The Hive," so that would seem to be the most likely point that he could've accessed the computers. It's certainly possible he could've been snaked as early as "Conversion."I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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Originally posted by Anuna View PostOh this is really interesting - I never actually considered it before, but I ahve a feeling Caldwell was Caldwell in Conversion. On some other show we would have seen when exactly he was snaked, because it's quite an important bit. But. You know how SGA writers are. LOL.
Yeah, while it's possible Caldwell had already been snaked in "Conversion," I think that may be a bit too early. My personal take on it is that the Trust grabbed him and snaked him, then on his next trip to Atlantis he snags a copy of the Atlantis operating system and brings it back to the Trust. They recode it, then on his next trip back to Atlantis, he uploads the sabotaged copy of the OS. Including travel time and however long it took for the Trust to do their programming while the Daedalus was being loaded for that last supply run, it probably took about a couple of months. I'm thinking he might have been snaked closer to "Aurora."(This is legal notice that any attempt to censor or delete, for the purpose of oppressing fair and open discussion, any statement made by me will be considered a violation of my right to free speech as guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and will be dealt with in accordance with federal law.)
Sparky is on screen. Therefore, it is canon. Elizabeth is still out there. And John WILL bring her home.
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I'm not sure there's any way to tell for sure because I think he needed to act like Caldwell would in normal situations anyway. I'm still wondering why he didn't try to ensure the bomb went off at the beginning of the episode by making a dramatic pause before deciding to send Atlantis a message. Considering how close they were to pressing the gate button, that's probably all he would have needed for it to work."First Weir, then Samantha Carter, and now, you! It's a pity you humans die or get reassigned so easily, or I might have a sense of satisfaction now!"
*You got the touch! You got the poweeeeer!*
"Arise, Woolseyus Prime."
"Elizabeth..."
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Originally posted by TheLadyMore View PostI say he was hit with the Gou'ld right before "Conversion". You noticed that he had fishy behavior when he was taking John's place as CO aboard Atlantis, and Elizabeth caught that as well.I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.
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