Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Anuna]

Twenty - minute ficlet: False emergency, rated M. Enjoy!

[Probie]

to canon. So surely she won't include any of those fanfic characterizations in her books. Surely.



Aaarrrggghhh! When I was in chorus in high school we sang the Harry Belafonte song about Kingston Town for the regional competition. I still remember my second alto part after alllll these years. Thanks for that. Aaarrrggghhh! Maybe that's why I like Glee so much. I can relate. LOL

YEAH! Sing with me!!!!lol
I have to start Glee. I like to sing (with my horrible voice). I will watch it after Castle and Dexter.

Anuna: Oh New fic!!!!! Time to read.

[lanaganp]

Afternoon all and Probie.......thought you might like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2EYmw5nMIE

[Probie]

Afternoon all and Probie.......thought you might like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2EYmw5nMIE

*stupid reaction* hihihihihihi

[Anuna]

wasn't here a post that somehow disappeared?

[Southern Red]

Afternoon all and Probie.......thought you might like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2EYmw5nMIE

Thanks. Great song for them. She is indeed all he needs.

Twenty - minute ficlet: False emergency, rated M. Enjoy!

And when they go to lunch who wants to bet everybody there will know what they've been up to?

[Anuna]

Hi, this is my first post, i've been lurking here and on various other gateworld threads for quite awhile, a lot longer than i've had an account, and i figured that it was time to say hi, and you all seem nice and capable of intelligent conversation lol. I kinda should mention that I'm really not a shipper, especially when it comes to ships between main characters. That said, i can totally see this ship working in the way you guys have described in your discussions about a virtual season six, since elizabeth wont be john's boss. thats always been that main reason for my dislike of the john/elizabeth ship, cuz i've always seen the chemistry between the two characters, i just didn't like the implications on there professional relationship. I definately see this ship way more than the other suggested ship, which had me rolling my eyes and saying "oh please no" when i saw the heavy handed hints at it in the first ep, thankfully that was dropped and never made canon. Which brings me to whats quoted above and certain authors need to change canon in order to bring her fav ship into fruition. I'd never read any of said author's fanfic before, but just from her "not too spoilery spoilers" i got the impression that that is where her books are headed. I sincerely hope I'm wrong , but from reading what has been said on this thread which only confirmed what i got from reading the author's lj page, i'm not expecting much. It just kinda irritates me when published authors try to rewrite or twist canon in order to suit there own personal veiws on how a character should develop, and claim it was the only logical devolopment for the characters to undergo. Not to mention making up backstory that doesnt fit whith what was shown/discussed in canon in order to support said development (polyamourus nomads?? Seriously??????) Anyways, lol I think i've ranted enough, and im really looking forward to reading your season six when it comes out , moreso than anything thats going to be published. Gotta go bye-bye

It's all fair game if she's writing fan fiction, you know? all fair game - backstories, rewriting canon and doing whatever your (shippy) heart wants to. SGA slash ships are WAY more popular than het ships. From canon point of view it makes no sense, but to shippers it does,a nd while the fiction is clearly and fairly labeled (so I can skip what I don't want to read), it's all okay.

Profesional relationship would be an issue between them. If this was a good show, it would be interesting to see how the writers could handle this, because, as you said, the chemistry between the characters was visible.

And on "polyamorous nomads" - God, can you guys even say that without cracking up? Lol, for SERIOUS? I know that shippers of certain group love "sunday" for ambiguous hints marty g has given them, and I keep wondering if the missed that little moment in the beginnign where Teyla seems hesitant to pursue a romantic ineterst BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY NOT THE WAY OF HER PEOPLE.

NOW THAT IS CANON. No matter how much youcryabout it.

Polyamorious nomads are not.

[Southern Red]

Hi, this is my first post, i've been lurking here and on various other gateworld threads for quite awhile, a lot longer than i've had an account, and i figured that it was time to say hi, and you all seem nice and capable of intelligent conversation lol. I kinda should mention that I'm really not a shipper, especially when it comes to ships between main characters. That said, i can totally see this ship working in the way you guys have described in your discussions about a virtual season six, since elizabeth wont be john's boss. thats always been that main reason for my dislike of the john/elizabeth ship, cuz i've always seen the chemistry between the two characters, i just didn't like the implications on there professional relationship. I definately see this ship way more than the other suggested ship, which had me rolling my eyes and saying "oh please no" when i saw the heavy handed hints at it in the first ep, thankfully that was dropped and never made canon. Which brings me to whats quoted above and certain authors need to change canon in order to bring her fav ship into fruition. I'd never read any of said author's fanfic before, but just from her "not too spoilery spoilers" i got the impression that that is where her books are headed. I sincerely hope I'm wrong , but from reading what has been said on this thread which only confirmed what i got from reading the author's lj page, i'm not expecting much. It just kinda irritates me when published authors try to rewrite or twist canon in order to suit there own personal veiws on how a character should develop, and claim it was the only logical devolopment for the characters to undergo. Not to mention making up backstory that doesnt fit whith what was shown/discussed in canon in order to support said development (polyamourus nomads?? Seriously??????) Anyways, lol I think i've ranted enough, and im really looking forward to reading your season six when it comes out , moreso than anything thats going to be published. Gotta go bye-bye

How did I miss this post? Anyway a great big welcome to you. If this is how you normally rant, then you've come to the right place. Rant on sister. My apologies if you're not female. Hee.

I'm glad you said all that because it's not the first time we've heard from non-shippers that they didn't really want Sparky but saw the connection between them. Particularly after GitM.

We are indeed all a bit peeved about the books, but you know what, I don't think it's going to be a problem. After all, technically they are fanfiction. Maybe they'll find a sympathetic audience, maybe they won't. And since publication dates on the other SGA books always seem to get pushed back, who know when they'll come out.

[Anuna]

How did I miss this post? Anyway a great big welcome to you. If this is how you normally rant, then you've come to the right place. Rant on sister. My apologies if you're not female. Hee.

I'm glad you said all that because it's not the first time we've heard from non-shippers that they didn't really want Sparky but saw the connection between them. Particularly after GitM.

We are indeed all a bit peeved about the books, but you know what, I don't think it's going to be a problem. After all, technically they are fanfiction. Maybe they'll find a sympathetic audience, maybe they won't. And since publication dates on the other SGA books always seem to get pushed back, who know when they'll come out.

Ditto, and may I just say that tahnks to VampyreWraith I now have a new mock!expression to use (because we all need crack).

POLYAMOROUS NOMADS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

[Southern Red]

Get ready to squee! I just found a post from someone on my LJ flist who is at the con in the UK. She talked to Joe and he went into a rant about how badly Torri got treated, said she was hot on camera and was even sexier in person. Yes, he said it again. This person writes Sparky fanfic so she would be fair in reporting the convo. He ranted on about the producers and how everyone was treated. I won't link without her permission but that's the best of it.

Now.

Spoiler:

Squee!

[Anuna]

DUDE SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JUST AS WE ALWAYS SUSPECTED LOL. TRUE CHEMISTRY CAN'T BE HIDDEN.

Spoiler:

Now we know where he was staring and why!

[Falcon Horus]

And on "polyamorous nomads" - God, can you guys even say that without cracking up?

I couldn't - I snorted.

[VampyreWraith]

It's all fair game if she's writing fan fiction, you know? all fair game - backstories, rewriting canon and doing whatever your (shippy) heart wants to. SGA slash ships are WAY more popular than het ships. From canon point of view it makes no sense, but to shippers it does,a nd while the fiction is clearly and fairly labeled (so I can skip what I don't want to read), it's all okay.

Profesional relationship would be an issue between them. If this was a good show, it would be interesting to see how the writers could handle this, because, as you said, the chemistry between the characters was visible.

And on "polyamorous nomads" - God, can you guys even say that without cracking up? Lol, for SERIOUS? I know that shippers of certain group love "sunday" for ambiguous hints marty g has given them, and I keep wondering if the missed that little moment in the beginnign where Teyla seems hesitant to pursue a romantic ineterst BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY NOT THE WAY OF HER PEOPLE.

NOW THAT IS CANON. No matter how much youcryabout it.

Polyamorious nomads are not.

I dont have any sort of problems with fanfiction, ive read all kinds, het, slash, whatever they're fun to read sometimes even if i dont personally share the authors pov, cuz like you said i basically know what im getting into cuz the author usually lables the pairing theyre into or what not and if i dont want to read it i dont have to. But when your publishing a tie-in novel that id have to spend money on id rather the author stick to whats been established and expand on whats already there and not make stuff up or twist whats there to suit there vision of the characters. Like if the show writers decided to pair certain characters up and and your unsatisfied with the developement the ship got, develop it in the novel dont toss it aside because youd rather so and so got with whoever else cuz theyre your faves and want to see them together. keep that for fan-fiction i have no problems with that.

[Southern Red]

DUDE SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JUST AS WE ALWAYS SUSPECTED LOL. TRUE CHEMISTRY CAN'T BE HIDDEN.

Spoiler:

Now we know where he was staring and why!

Yep, and evidently all that it took to bring this rant on was her telling him she had seen Torri's play in LA. LOL Man, he sure holds on to a mad, doesn't he. She also said he had quite a bit to say about how actresses aren't allowed to age and good parts only go to Meryl Streep and how unfair it is. LOL And I thought I couldn't love this man any more. And then he kissed her on the cheek for listening. OMG! Sounds like our boy has a lot to say if you bring up Torri. LOL

All right Drew and others who are going to Shore Leave. Torri needs to hear about this.

[KrisRussel]

Twenty - minute ficlet: False emergency, rated M. Enjoy!

Awesome!!!!! Thank you for making my crappy day

Get ready to squee! I just found a post from someone on my LJ flist who is at the con in the UK. She talked to Joe and he went into a rant about how badly Torri got treated, said she was hot on camera and was even sexier in person. Yes, he said it again. This person writes Sparky fanfic so she would be fair in reporting the convo. He ranted on about the producers and how everyone was treated. I won't link without her permission but that's the best of it.

Now.

Spoiler:

Squee!

OMG!!!!!!

Spoiler:

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I love him even more now... and I thought that was impossible after what happened at Fedcon

DUDE SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! JUST AS WE ALWAYS SUSPECTED LOL. TRUE CHEMISTRY CAN'T BE HIDDEN.

Spoiler:

Now we know where he was staring and why!

And why he's licking his lips
Which he, btw, always does when he's looking at her

Spoiler:

Our Ship Rules!!!!!!!!!