Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

*looks at SyFy's schedule*

Holy smokes, so they are! And then they're showing it again next Tuesday when they pick up the weekday 5pm timeslot again. Wacky.

i think i should get some green for that. Just Kidding lol but yeah it was crazy that they showed both episodes in the same day.

[pkprd869]

Good morning sparkies, it's time for football. Eri good luck today in "The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry". SK USC should handle Stanford without too many problems. SR Hope those Hokies can pick up a win, they've had a rough couple weeks. Drew maybe Joe Pa and co. can comeback after last week.

[Scary Kitty]

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Sparky!Family and College Football Saturday!

What, in FS Elizabeth is just a tad bit too awesome for them, riiight?

She must be. Even John was a bit dazzled by her, wasn't he? LOL!

i think i should get some green for that. Just Kidding lol but yeah it was crazy that they showed both episodes in the same day.

It was only a matter of time before the weekday and late night Friday episodes slipped into alignment with each other, but it's really funny that it just so happened to be with those two episodes.

Good morning sparkies, it's time for football. Eri good luck today in "The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry". SK USC should handle Stanford without too many problems. SR Hope those Hokies can pick up a win, they've had a rough couple weeks. Drew maybe Joe Pa and co. can comeback after last week.

Eh, I dunno, Stanford's been doing pretty well this year; they're actually ranked ahead of USC in the conference. The Pac-10 teams have always been more difficult for us, because we play each other every year, we get to know them, they get to know us. And they always want a piece of us.

[Southern Red]

Good morning sparkies, it's time for football. Eri good luck today in "The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry". SK USC should handle Stanford without too many problems. SR Hope those Hokies can pick up a win, they've had a rough couple weeks. Drew maybe Joe Pa and co. can comeback after last week.

Thanks. We aren't supposed to have a problem with Maryland but you never know lately. Good luck to Tennessee.

Good morning, Sparkies! Happy Sparky!Family and College Football Saturday!



She must be. Even John was a bit dazzled by her, wasn't he? LOL!



It was only a matter of time before the weekday and late night Friday episodes slipped into alignment with each other, but it's really funny that it just so happened to be with those two episodes.



Eh, I dunno, Stanford's been doing pretty well this year; they're actually ranked ahead of USC in the conference. The Pac-10 teams have always been more difficult for us, because we play each other every year, we get to know them, they get to know us. And they always want a piece of us.

The Gameday guys picked Stanford. *smacks them* Maybe that will be an incentive for your guys. Things are getting really tight now. I'm also rooting for the Horned Frogs just because.

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

i would've like to have seen John taking elizabeth to see a College Football game.

[Anuna]

Here I am with another of my questions for discussion, if you'd like. What do you guys think of the Genii, after everything we've learned about them? Are they good, bad, or ambigous? Do you enjoy Genii episodes? Who is your favorite Genii?

What do you think of Ladon - good, bad or spineless?

[Lt.Colonel John Sheppard]

Okay I liked every genii Episode Especially The Storm/The Eye. I think the Genii are the kinda of people who used people to get what the want. (i.e. Food, Info) . so yeah IMO the genii are bad. My Favorite Genii is Kolya. Ladon Certainly has a backbone to him but i'm sure there is much to him that he didn't get to see i mean he was only in 2 episodes in season 3 and then we never got to see him.

[Anuna]

Okay I liked every genii Episode Especially The Storm/The Eye. I think the Genii are the kinda of people who used people to get what the want. (i.e. Food, Info) . so yeah IMO the genii are bad. My Favorite Genii is Kolya. Ladon Certainly has a backbone to him but i'm sure there is much to him that he didn't get to see i mean he was only in 2 episodes in season 3 and then we never got to see him.

I vote Kolya too. However I never thought the Genii were bad, as in black and white kind of bad. Perhaps they're more "the goal justifying the means" kind of people who think of themselves first.

[drewandian]

I think the Genii were doing what they had to do to survive, more or less. Did they choose the best or most honorable way to do it? Nope . . . but I don't know that they were necessarily 'bad'...antagonists, sure, but not inherently bad. Were they a pain in the backside? Sure they were...but I don't think that (in the beginning anyway) they really had it out for the people of Atlantis specifically. They were just used to taking what they needed or could get by any means necessary - they were living in warlike circumstances after all. The Genii get cranky when they don't get their own way, thus deciding that the people of Atlantis are the enemy...later going on to behave even more like spoiled little kids who didn't get their own way when they fail to take Atlantis.

Ladon seemed a little like a coward to me...

My favorite Genii? Well, we only see a little of her, but I really liked Sora....

[Anuna]

I think the Genii were doing what they had to do to survive, more or less. Did they choose the best or most honorable way to do it? Nope . . . but I don't know that they were necessarily 'bad'...antagonists, sure, but not inherently bad. Were they a pain in the backside? Sure they were...but I don't think that (in the beginning anyway) they really had it out for the people of Atlantis specifically. They were just used to taking what they needed or could get by any means necessary - they were living in warlike circumstances after all. The Genii get cranky when they don't get their own way, thus deciding that the people of Atlantis are the enemy...later going on to behave even more like spoiled little kids who didn't get their own way when they fail to take Atlantis.

Ladon seemed a little like a coward to me...

My favorite Genii? Well, we only see a little of her, but I really liked Sora....

You summed it up wonderfully! It's a selfish thing to do, believing you could just walk in somewhere and take something you want or think you need.

[drewandian]

You summed it up wonderfully! It's a selfish thing to do, believing you could just walk in somewhere and take something you want or think you need.

Thanks!
I just don't think that at that point they even realized how childlike and selfishly they were behaving. Much like a preschooler who'll take whatever toy they want, even if someone else is already playing with it...

[Anuna]

Thanks!
I just don't think that at that point they even realized how childlike and selfishly they were behaving. Much like a preschooler who'll take whatever toy they want, even if someone else is already playing with it...

Yes. I think Ladon was trying to be better than that, I can't really imagine him as the real bad guy, like Kolya. However, he seemed somewhat spineless to me. You said Ladon was cowardly, and I'd really like to hear more of your opinion on him.

[drewandian]

Yes. I think Ladon was trying to be better than that, I can't really imagine him as the real bad guy, like Kolya. However, he seemed somewhat spineless to me. You said Ladon was cowardly, and I'd really like to hear more of your opinion on him.

I think he had good intentions but that when push came to shove, he'd get a little spooked. I almost got the feeling that he did a lot of the things he did more for his own benefit than for the greater good. For example, in "Coup D'Etat" I got the feeling that he was more interested in what the people in Atlantis could do for him and his sister than for the Genii on a whole. (I can't really explain why, it's just a feeling that I got)
I don't trust him...I think he'd sell out in order to protect himself...

[Infinite-Possibilities]

I always thought Ladon was interesting. He always seemed the type of character who you could never tell if he was being helpful or deceitful or both. Consequently he was extremely entertaining to watch.

[Anuna]

I always thought Ladon was interesting. He always seemed the type of character who you could never tell if he was being helpful or deceitful or both. Consequently he was extremely entertaining to watch.

Yes. Which reminds me of Dr. Rush and how PTB seem to be trying too hard with him.

For some reason I always liked Ladon. maybe bottom line he is a good guy, but there's that thing about him, and the Genii in general, you never know if they're going to screw you up. And yes, that was interesting to watch.