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*cackles* I know, it's just so silly that I'm not even mad about it. I'm just sitting here laughing at the absurdity of it all! Gee, I wonder if this means I've made it as a Big Name Fan? LMAO!Originally posted by Ruined_puzzle View Post
ZOMG, yes, the universe would explode! And, of course, Lizzie would be an instant gazillionaire with all the money coming in from selling us all those specially-programmed Sheppard clones. See, that Replicator tech came in handy, after all!
ETA: Dear gods, I cannot write or spell coherently tonight for the life of me.
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The plot bunnies are nibbling on my ankles again. Tell me if you think this idea is utterly crazy in a bad way, or should I go for it...
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When are you going to write that finally????Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostThe plot bunnies are nibbling on my ankles again. Tell me if you think this idea is utterly crazy in a bad way, or should I go for it...
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Hee! I'm working on an earlier part of it right now, as a matter of fact. (at least, during the commercial breaks while I'm watching NCISOriginally posted by Anuna View Post) The part I just asked about... it'll be a while before we get there. 
The really irritating thing about the way I write is that I keep getting all sorts of wacky ideas that keep throwing my outline into chaos. I swear, the direction of this thing has changed three times already!
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YAY! Sounds like a great fic!!!! can't wait!Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostHee! I'm working on an earlier part of it right now, as a matter of fact. (at least, during the commercial breaks while I'm watching NCIS) The part I just asked about... it'll be a while before we get there.
The really irritating thing about the way I write is that I keep getting all sorts of wacky ideas that keep throwing my outline into chaos. I swear, the direction of this thing has changed three times already!
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I can't wait until the damn thing is done! It's driving me crazy!Originally posted by nogigglingmajor View Post
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Because we don't actually exist, and come alive in your dreamsOriginally posted by KrisRussel View PostWhy do you guys have the best discussions when I'm asleep or unavailable?
But I always have a blast catching up on everything
They could have gotten together. They had some chemistry. Plus Elizabeth didn't say ew gross don't ever do that again. Unfortunately the reasons she gave for avoiding romance were more like reasons for avoiding a relationship with John than Mike. I'm still surprised he was only used just the once though, even if the second time was a 'real' brush off.Originally posted by Falcon Horus View Post
And yes, it would be a tad awkward between them afterwards.
No doubt we will ever know the real story. Trust no oneOriginally posted by Reiko View PostHee. As for MG, I'm afraid I don't really believe anything he says. Hmmm. Based on the order in which they filmed episodes JS was probably called in directed directly after PM got the news. And people are saying "don't blame JM and other!PM", "Gero just wrote the episode!" (or in Torri's case, "don't blame BW and RCC or Gero! Or JM and PM!")
Anyone knows that JM, PM and Gero have had quite a bit of influence so I wouldn't take them out of the Carson equation. At all. And even BW and RCC had influence in S4, so I'm not taking them out for Elizabeth either.
oddly I said that to someone last week as I was walking away, then nearly got mowed down by a car. My death would've provided much emphasis to that statement
Those were the days........ when I actually cared about the showOriginally posted by Lythisrose View Post
I missed the majority of it apparently. And I'm too lazy tooOriginally posted by Ruined_puzzle View Post
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Well you should go for it, it will be a fun story.Originally posted by Scary Kitty View PostThe plot bunnies are nibbling on my ankles again. Tell me if you think this idea is utterly crazy in a bad way, or should I go for it...
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You're right, it really did feel in some respects like Mike was a substitute John, there to be the fall guy to show why Sheppard/Weir couldn't work. Not that it did anything to convince us, of course...Originally posted by gateraid View Post
And, to be honest, Mike's presence and his crush on Elizabeth totally came out of the blue. Not even any hints in previous episodes that could be retroactively interpreted toward him, like how Teyla's mentioning making a move with an unnamed man in Sunday can now be retconned as a hint toward Kanaan. I wish Mike had been introduced earlier; that could've made for a twisty little minor storyarc.
The end of days. Hmm, I have a sudden urge to commit apocafic.Originally posted by gateraid View Post
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Oh, I am! It's gonna be crazy; a moment of comedy to break the tension in the midst of some very dark events.Originally posted by Snookie16 View Post
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Sorry if these answers are a little brief, or flippant, but I don't remember this ep all that well.
Irresponsible Questions
1) What were you expecting with the previews/synopsis/what you'd heard of this episode?
Given that I hadn't read it, nothing. That's exactly what I got out of it, unless you count that feeling of disappointment. But the teaser (we've heard of a man with superpowers) sounded lame.
2) What did it feel like seeing Lucius Lavin again?
My reaction:
Lucius? **** this show is GAY. Why do I keep watching it when it disappoints me so?
My reaction at the end of it was even harsher (well, the time that I actually watched it through to the end)
3) From time to time we get the 'rustic folk' storyline complete with pitchforks and taverns. How does this work for you generally? What about here?
I'm half and half on it. Because I listen to the commentaries, I recognise that there are only a limited number of sets they can use, both for logistics and money. If I didn't do that, I'd get a little bored. There's not really an in between in SG1 or Atlantis - societies are either yokel-esque or extremely advanced. Here, it suited the story. Lucius needed a town full of hillbillies to fall for his scam, and that's what he found on this planet
4) Elizabeth only appears in the beginning of the story--why do you think the writers didn't include her in a story with both Lucius and Kolya? Fair or unfair?
I agree with SK. It's hard to justify her presence in an ep like this. SGA-1's sole purpose for going was to check out this new 'superhero'. They could have always dialled Atlantis if there was anything interesting. Now The Tower is a completely different story (not just Elizabeth, probably 1/3 of the expedition should have been there)
5) Did any of the SGA-1 cast seem OOC in this episode? Or were they on target?
Not as far as I can recall, but me recollection of this ep isn't great. I liked Teyla arguing with John, but ultimately she was overruled like the few times she had done it in the past (LFP, Michael)
6) Do you think Kolya's personality was consistent with his previous appearances?
Somewhat, but it was a little sad to see how low he had sunk.
7) Something about this episode feels a little off--did you feel that way? If so, what do you think it is? (Please be specific--generalizations, i.e. 'writing', is not concise enough)
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It's because they tried to have both Lucius and Kolya in the same ep without really justifying either of them. Essentially, Lucius was there as comic relief, and to give Shep the shield. As for Kolya, given his resentment for Atlantis, it seems odd that he would just accidentally stumble upon them rather than trap them as part of a well crafted plan.
From Kolya's point of view, Atlantis killed 50-odd of his men while thwarting his takeover of Atlantis, injuring him in the process. He was disgraced. Atlantis then duped him out of a ZPM in Brotherhood, before he again failed to get supplies from them in Common Ground. He would have been unaware that Dr Weir of all people essentially green-lighted his assassination during that affair. While I think CG isn't as good as TS/TE, surely that Kolya is capable of more villiany than this ep allowed.
Even Lucius wasn't the same. The scene with Shep were he was coming up with (unhelpful) ideas made him seem like some sort of rambling fool.
8) This is the first time we've seen a personal shield in a long while. How did you feel about its reappearance? Was it used effectively as a plot device?
It violated everything we'd been told. Lucius didn't have the gene, so it shouldn't have worked on him. Plus, it is supposed to imprint on the user, meaning Shep shouldn't have been able to use it. Essentially it was only there so Shep could walk right up to Kolya without being shot.
9) *siggghhhhh* Kolya meets his end at John's hands in this episode...what did you think about the duel-type showdown? Befitting both men?
Oh. My. God. Did that just happen? Not only was it a lame way to write Kolya out, it was a lame shoot-out.
10) What would you have done to improve this episode?
Nothing. It is truly awful. Just scrap the whole idea completely. It may have looked good on paper, but it just didn't screen well.
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Kolya mentions that 'he won't back Weir into a corner again'. What do you think he was thinking of that made him come to that decision? Was this a Sparky moment for your books?
Well, first he tried to takeover Atlantis. He got most of his men killed, and himself shot. Then he tried to bargain directly with her for supplies. I would assume he would recognise that a leader has to be pragmatic. Don't bow for big stuff, but perhaps the smaller stuff is not such a big deal? Perhaps he was trying to downgrade his threat level from huge thorn in Atlantis's side to moderate prick? Perhaps it was part of a bigger plan - see what he is allowed to get away with, then in the future go for an all out assault?
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I was looking for more pics, and came across this:
Is it just me, or does the guy to the right of Dr Lee look like a Lee/Kavanaugh lovechild?Last edited by gateraid; 16 February 2009, 12:40 AM.sigpicComment
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Kavanaugh is so the mom in that scenario
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Damn, gateraid, you're gonna give me nightmares!
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