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**cc_mac** · 07 February 2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Erin87 View Post

Okay, looking at the calendar, I see that today is Sparky!Family! Day. Assuming this means stuff that has to do with their kids, I offer this, a fic I wrote as a Christmas present for a friend of mine. It was inspired by the absolutely hilarious vid of Joe F. at a convention in Burbank talking about his hair. Hope you guys like, and opinions/reviews please.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4725392/...Sheppards_hair

Cool! Thanks.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Yes, she does

Spoiler:

ROTFL!!!!!
Go Sam.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Goodnight SK!

Spoiler:

*gigglesnort*
Love these!!

**Eri13** · 07 February 2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Thats actually quite a perceptive comment. I did watch X-files on and off (mostly off in later years, but that was due to time slot issues). I wouldn't describe X-files as groundbreaking exactly, but it must've opened the eyes of networks and writers as to what they could achieve in a subtle way. On reflection, that show seems gender neutral to me. I don't recall it being overly macho, or girly. There was nothing gratuitous in it. And the ship was there if you chose to look for it, or easy to ignore.

I'm probably not the best person to comment on it, as I've seen so little of it. But it struck me as a chicks show at the time.

Oh come ON!! Again, not the best person to comment. I watched all of s1, the majority of s2, then bits of s3. Nothing changed. And apparently they'd only been on the island for about 100 days - wtf?

I do however think it is a brilliant way of storytelling. Half of the ep is set in the present, the rest is backstory which ultimately has no relevance to what is happening in the present (it shapes it I guess, but generally there is only a tenuous connection). That's how you tell a story if you don't want to progress it or reveal too much - pure GENIUS!!

Ultimately I really don't care that much about the characters. But from what i did see, every time Kate gets disappointed by Jack, she turns to Sawyer to scratch her itch. Not the way to write a ship.

I did like Lost initially, I just got frustrated with its lack of progression. It's not a show that should be episodic, but that's what it struck me as. I assume that now they have decided when its end is (always best if the writers decided it rather than the higher ups) that will change somewhat. No doubt I will tune in again for the last few eps

Yep, you became one of the 6 million deserters--the 6-8 ratings points that left the show after the suckiness of the better part of season 3. And I absolutely don't blame you, nor do TPTB--they completely understood why! (Those are PTB that actually know when the show's in danger). I did stick with it because I still appreciated the little easter eggs of writing--it takes a lot to get me out of a show I really like--and I have to tell you that it's completely paid off. Once the writers knew they had an end date, they took the ball and just completely rolled with it. And the effect has been the complete awesomeness that is LOST now. It's too much to describe in one sitting, but once they had the outline, they knew what they needed to do to build up suspense.

That being said, though--it IS still very much a thinking show. No mental bubble gum there--you do have to pay attention, and it is much more fun if you're a crazy english egghead like me and Flowerbud to watch it again and perhaps analyze it afterwards. I will say that character development this season has become something of a reverse of what made the character development so incredible in Season 1. (Season 1 will never be topped, IMO--it remains the best season so far). But now, they're not doing flashbacks, really, it's all about developing the characters in the present. Now they do flashforwards and have just introduced time jumps. And the drama is just...just so...KICK@$$! *fist pump* As with The X-Files and Firefly it will be in my list of all time best shows I've ever seen.

Originally posted by Flowerbud View Post

X-files switched gender stereotypes to a certain extent. Mulder was the emotional one who wants to believe desperately in order to regain his sister and Scully the cool, rational one who believed in science. I always got the sense that Mulder and Scully were equals.

It's much, much better this season. Not so frustrating, because the writers are giving answers and will have conclusions. It's been satisfying to watch so far. You many want to give it another try.

Spoiler:

And yes, the triangle is still ongoing, but I do not ship on LOST. Sawyer's my favorite character for developmental reasons (though I won't deny the shirtless sexiness is a perk), but as I've said so many times before, I learned my lesson--I don't ship anymore. Sparky was my last truly devoted ship.

I really appreciated Mulder and Scully's dynamic. She was another female character who sort of broke boundaries by not fitting into a perfect archetype. Neither did he. And I love how their flaws were their strengths in certain regards.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

To quote SK:

Oh no you didn't !!

Exactly *spits* Such is the power of sparky

Case in point

Hmmm. Maybe I should give it another chance?

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

Voting Link -- and What The Hell is Up With Mine Losing to Ties!?

To be honest I don't think I've ever met a Supernatural fan who wasn't female.

God Bless the men, it's taken them awhile.

Every guy I've introduced the show to, however, has loved it after watching the first season. Many had to get over the "CW" stigma. But I have two in my office now who I regularly discuss the show with, and they like the action and the fact the guys really aren't pansies.

Save for the shirtlessness, I would say SPN is a show that is gender-neutral, because the gals have to put up with their fair share of 'hot' female guest stars. It's certainly not Smallville, anyway. And I used to like that show.

I'm sensing a certain lack of Sparkiness in my last two posts, so.

A On-topic peace offering from Tao of McKay, which I just farmed caps for in preparation for the recap I'll be doing ~~after suffering through the recap of Irresponsible.~~

**Reiko** · 07 February 2009, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post

Oh, I know! The early wigs were hideous; that first one looked almost pink, for pity's sake!

Rachel's early wig from s1 (the long one) made her look smaller/shorter. I don't know why, but it did, and it didn't complement her as well as the s2&s3 wig did, which I prefer the most. Yeah, and that one did glow with a pinkish hue in the right lighting. Not the best picture -- I'm sure there are others out there.

The second (middle) s1 wig was not as hideous as the first but it's still not my favourite. We never saw her wear her desert-shirt again, di we? ;_;

I could see why Jason/Ronon would have to wear a wig -- they are a character trademark. though the wig is still ugly

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

I'm not sure who this actually belongs to, but this is from 38 Minutes
[ATTACH]7796[/ATTACH]

That's CaptJamie's I think.

Haha, and great captions gateraid.

I like the Sam/Caldwell one and the TPTB View on Sparky.

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

A On-topic peace offering from Tao of McKay, which I just farmed caps for in preparation for the recap I'll be doing ~~after suffering through the recap of Irresponsible.~~

One of my favourite episodes! (Tao of Rodney, not Irresponsible.) YAY.

Irresponsible was bad bad. The only good things about it were seeing Kolya and the ending. And the beginning with Lizzie. Oh, and maybe Teyla in the tree and John sucking on his wheat.

**Erin87** · 07 February 2009, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

Adorable. Both the fic and the video.

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

It's probably my favorite thing that I've written (or at least top two

).

**Erin87** · 07 February 2009, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

One of my favourite episodes! (Tao of Rodney, not Irresponsible.) YAY.

Irresponsible was bad bad. The only good things about it were seeing Kolya and the ending. And the beginning with Lizzie. Oh, and maybe Teyla in the tree and John sucking on his wheat.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. I have very few memories of that ep, having only seen it once quite a while ago, but I do clearly remember the Wild West showdown at the end.

I half expected a tumbleweed to blow by and that whistling music to start playing. I personally think they could have come up with a better way for Kolya to die. He was such an awesome villain and they killed him in a pretty cliche way. (Even though I'll admit it was nice to finally see John get to shoot him/exact revenge for him nearly killing Elizabeth in the Eye

)

And I also agree that Tao of Rodney was a really great episode.

I'm looking forward to Eri's recap of it.

**gateraid** · 07 February 2009, 12:07 PM

From No Man's Land

Spoiler:

I typed in the title last. Seems kinda ironic now

**Reiko** · 07 February 2009, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Erin87 View Post

Yeah, it was pretty bad. I have very few memories of that ep, having only seen it once quite a while ago, but I do clearly remember the Wild West showdown at the end.

I half expected a tumbleweed to blow by and that whistling music to start playing. I personally think they could have come up with a better way for Kolya to die. He was such an awesome villain and they killed him in a pretty cliche way. (Even though I'll admit it was nice to finally see John get to shoot him/exact revenge for him nearly killing Elizabeth in the Eye

)

And I also agree that Tao of Rodney was a really great episode.

I'm looking forward to Eri's recap of it.

I thought a more-western type town would be an interesting setting for an SGA episode -- it could have worked for a change of scenery in this episode, but once again they had to fuse it with a medieval-era village that has probably been seen on SG1 before. Enough with the medieval villages!

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

From No Man's Land

Spoiler:

I typed in the title last. Seems kinda ironic now

Those are great. Poor Mr Woolsey.

**gateraid** · 07 February 2009, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

My husband is. But you haven't met him. Heh. He likes the humor.

Yes, female strippers. And I forgot the really horny female doctor.

Keller?

And that vid was great. Added the song to my iTunes. While I was watching it my husband walked up behind me, watched for a moment and then handed me a tissue and left. LOL

Your husband must be stopped. He is making the rest of us guys look bad with his insight and perception

Originally posted by Eri13 View Post

Yep, you became one of the 6 million deserters--the 6-8 ratings points that left the show after the suckiness of the better part of season 3. And I absolutely don't blame you, nor do TPTB--they completely understood why! (Those are PTB that actually know when the show's in danger). I did stick with it because I still appreciated the little easter eggs of writing--it takes a lot to get me out of a show I really like--and I have to tell you that it's completely paid off. Once the writers knew they had an end date, they took the ball and just completely rolled with it. And the effect has been the complete awesomeness that is LOST now. It's too much to describe in one sitting, but once they had the outline, they knew what they needed to do to build up suspense.

That being said, though--it IS still very much a thinking show. No mental bubble gum there--you do have to pay attention, and it is much more fun if you're a crazy english egghead like me and Flowerbud to watch it again and perhaps analyze it afterwards. I will say that character development this season has become something of a reverse of what made the character development so incredible in Season 1. (Season 1 will never be topped, IMO--it remains the best season so far). But now, they're not doing flashbacks, really, it's all about developing the characters in the present. Now they do flashforwards and have just introduced time jumps. And the drama is just...just so...KICK@$$! *fist pump* As with The X-Files and Firefly it will be in my list of all time best shows I've ever seen.

And yes, the triangle is still ongoing, but I do not ship on LOST. Sawyer's my favorite character for developmental reasons (though I won't deny the shirtless sexiness is a perk), but as I've said so many times before, I learned my lesson--I don't ship anymore. Sparky was my last truly devoted ship.

I don't mind a thinking show. And I don't mind one that you have to watch every week to keep up to date on. But every time I went away from LOST, than came back, it seemed like I hadn't really missed anything plotwise. Actually, they lost me with 'we have to move the island'. Really? A giant piece of rock that protudes from the earth's crust, formed by tectonic plates pushing together? Sure.

You are most likely right about it improving. From what you have said, it does sound better, although to be completely honest I've never been a fan of backstory in any show, and i'm a bit iffy on time travel. And now that they have an end date, it can only improve.

One of the shows I am really into at the moment is BSG (I've only seen up to 4.5). That show seems to have had a plan from the get-go in terms of plot and character development. It has varied in quality over the years, as do most shows. I think that was my initial concern with LOST - it didn't seem like they knew what they were doing. In fact, some of the stuff that was said publicly about the writing process supported that assumption.

I really appreciated Mulder and Scully's dynamic. She was another female character who sort of broke boundaries by not fitting into a perfect archetype. Neither did he. And I love how their flaws were their strengths in certain regards.

Believable characters, written well

God Bless the men, it's taken them awhile.

Every guy I've introduced the show to, however, has loved it after watching the first season. Many had to get over the "CW" stigma. But I have two in my office now who I regularly discuss the show with, and they like the action and the fact the guys really aren't pansies.

Save for the shirtlessness, I would say SPN is a show that is gender-neutral, because the gals have to put up with their fair share of 'hot' female guest stars. It's certainly not Smallville, anyway. And I used to like that show.

Ack, Smallville. Supernatural is sounding better and better

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

Rachel's early wig from s1 (the long one) made her look smaller/shorter. I don't know why, but it did, and it didn't complement her as well as the s2&s3 wig did, which I prefer the most. Yeah, and that one did glow with a pinkish hue in the right lighting. Not the best picture -- I'm sure there are others out there.

They got better as the years went by. It started to look less like a wig, and more like actual hair

The second (middle) s1 wig was not as hideous as the first but it's still not my favourite. We never saw her wear her desert-shirt again, di we? ;_;

No, but I don't think they ever went to a desert planet again. Come to think of it, neither did SG1. Maybe they couldn't use that location again?

I could see why Jason/Ronon would have to wear a wig -- they are a character trademark. though the wig is still ugly

People have haircuts all the time. In my experience, dreadlocks are generally dirty (coz you can't wash them particularly well) and stink (for the same reason).

That's CaptJamie's I think.

Thank you. I saved it but didn't write down the creator

One of my favourite episodes! (Tao of Rodney, not Irresponsible.) YAY.

Irresponsible was bad bad. The only good things about it were seeing Kolya and the ending. And the beginning with Lizzie. Oh, and maybe Teyla in the tree and John sucking on his wheat.

Hey, even Mullie said it wasn't good, so its canon

**Reiko** · 07 February 2009, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Keller?

Hey, she should have been a stripper in the Vegas AU.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

No, but I don't think they ever went to a desert planet again. Come to think of it, neither did SG1. Maybe they couldn't use that location again?

I don't know about SG1, but I heard something on another thread that The Defiant One was filmed in the industrial gravel pits, and eventually all the gravel went away or buildings began to be built there. Or something. I don't remember, but I've been to BC. They have fields there. I don't see what the problem is if you film somewhere with low grass and then change the colour in post-production. Kinda like they did in Runner with Planet of Burning Sun.

**Scary Kitty** · 07 February 2009, 01:14 PM

Good afternoon, Sparkies!

T-minus 45 minutes until today's post-a-thon!

**Scary Kitty** · 07 February 2009, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Goodnight SK!

Spoiler:

Bwahahaha!

So we go from Lizzie getting Rodney to rig up some cameras for her own personal Shep porn video, to Lizzie playing doctor with John. Totally loving it!

**Eri13** · 07 February 2009, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

Rachel's early wig from s1 (the long one) made her look smaller/shorter. I don't know why, but it did, and it didn't complement her as well as the s2&s3 wig did, which I prefer the most. Yeah, and that one did glow with a pinkish hue in the right lighting. Not the best picture -- I'm sure there are others out there.

The second (middle) s1 wig was not as hideous as the first but it's still not my favourite. We never saw her wear her desert-shirt again, di we? ;_;

I could see why Jason/Ronon would have to wear a wig -- they are a character trademark. though the wig is still ugly

That's CaptJamie's I think.

Haha, and great captions gateraid.

I like the Sam/Caldwell one and the TPTB View on Sparky.

One of my favourite episodes! (Tao of Rodney, not Irresponsible.) YAY.

Irresponsible was bad bad. The only good things about it were seeing Kolya and the ending. And the beginning with Lizzie. Oh, and maybe Teyla in the tree and John sucking on his wheat.

Originally posted by Erin87 View Post

Yeah, it was pretty bad. I have very few memories of that ep, having only seen it once quite a while ago, but I do clearly remember the Wild West showdown at the end.

I half expected a tumbleweed to blow by and that whistling music to start playing. I personally think they could have come up with a better way for Kolya to die. He was such an awesome villain and they killed him in a pretty cliche way. (Even though I'll admit it was nice to finally see John get to shoot him/exact revenge for him nearly killing Elizabeth in the Eye

)

And I also agree that Tao of Rodney was a really great episode.

I'm looking forward to Eri's recap of it.

Um, yeah, you guys have pretty much summed up all I'm going to say in my recap of Irresponsible. Honestly, it's my least favorite episode in SGA canon. For a variety of reasons. Which is odd, because it's sandwiched between two of my favorite episodes. But to give you an idea of how much time I'm going to spend on them, well, I farmed about 40 caps for IRR and about 150 for TOR. And of the 40 IRR caps, about 10 of them are Elizabeth's opening scene.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

From No Man's Land

Spoiler:

I typed in the title last. Seems kinda ironic now

OMG THOSE ARE MADE OF WIN. I love the second one, especially the picture of Elizabeth you chose.

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Keller?

Your husband must be stopped. He is making the rest of us guys look bad with his insight and perception

I don't mind a thinking show. And I don't mind one that you have to watch every week to keep up to date on. But every time I went away from LOST, than came back, it seemed like I hadn't really missed anything plotwise. Actually, they lost me with 'we have to move the island'. Really? A giant piece of rock that protudes from the earth's crust, formed by tectonic plates pushing together? Sure.

You are most likely right about it improving. From what you have said, it does sound better, although to be completely honest I've never been a fan of backstory in any show, and i'm a bit iffy on time travel. And now that they have an end date, it can only improve.

One of the shows I am really into at the moment is BSG (I've only seen up to 4.5). That show seems to have had a plan from the get-go in terms of plot and character development. It has varied in quality over the years, as do most shows. I think that was my initial concern with LOST - it didn't seem like they knew what they were doing. In fact, some of the stuff that was said publicly about the writing process supported that assumption.

> snippage (sorries)

I think they always knew the main idea. I've been going through my LOST compendium from S1 and TPTB knew where they wanted to go--just not how to get there. That part they described as 'organic' and something they were going to let flow. Which is why it draaagggggeeeeeddddd around S3, when they had to keep stalling with filler to not jump into the major arc points. And they filled it with nonsense, like retesting Locke's faith for the upteenth time and more romance than they should have. After they found the end date, they knew they had 60 episodes to end it, and it's never felt out of place, out of step, or disappointing. *THANK GOODNESS*

But yeah, I don't argue that it's a suspension of belief show, or that some fans will absolutely geek out over it while others just won't find it entertaining. I don't think it's so amazing everyone should watch it--only those who find enjoyment in it. Same basic reasoning I use for my love of Supernatural or Firefly--shows like that just don't appeal to everyone, and that's fine.

But why I personally champion it is because it 'passed' my tests. My enjoyment of shows come on many different levels, but when a show pleases me on all of them, any criticism I have with it seems irrelevant in light of the overall product. I can believe in time-jumping islands like I believe in stargates. But the differences in stuff like direction, character development, storytelling, though provoking detail, casting, editing and even behind-the-scenes--a good blend of that doesn't happen everyday. For me, LOST is one of those shows where I'm so amazed by how well they do everything in general that my specific gripes really amount to nothing.

**yunadax** · 07 February 2009, 01:21 PM

what eps are we watchin this morning?

**Eri13** · 07 February 2009, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Scary Kitty View Post

Good afternoon, Sparkies!

T-minus 45 minutes until today's post-a-thon!

AH! RATS! I've just been called away by my tennis partner! I so thought I was going to make it today. *hangs head*

Have fun without me...

**Scary Kitty** · 07 February 2009, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by gateraid View Post

Heh. Did something I don't normally do and rewatched an old ep (3 is my limit - after that I pretty much know it by heart so its pointless).

On First Strike:

It struck me as a poor way to make a rift between civilian and military. After all, Weir was actually right. The plan didn't work, and it made the replicators attack them. Her plan wasn't 'don't attack', it was 'stall, then attack'. And she toed the company line even though she didn't agree with it.

The scenes between Weir and Ellis were not that dramatic. The 20-rounds exchange was something you'd see in a bad soap opera. And when he came in at the end and said he respected her, it seemed a bit false considering what he'd said to John just prior to that.

I think the arguements might have had more gravity had it been Carter instead of Ellis, but that might have been a bit bold for TPTB. It would however have made an easy introduction for Carter to take command in s4 - her Apollo gets destroyed in Adrift or Lifeline, and she stays on Atlantis as the highest ranking officer (which is still in space coz the engines are broken, so no contact with Earth).

I actually really liked Rodney in this ep. When push came to shove, he went back to his core beliefs. Science is better than guns, and loyalty is worth its weight in gold. This seems more like the Rodney in Rising.

John, well, where were you? Oh, you'd already moved into s4

And I know it was only because it was in the script, but considering Weir was the one who ordered the shield lowered, why would she go to the window while the shield was still inactive?

Now a Weir vs. Carter thing would've been interesting to see, especially in light of how they tangled in SG-1's New Order. Those two had history, and it would've put a very different spin on those scenes in First Strike, and later in Adrift/Lifeline.

As for why Lizzie would've gone to the window... why does anyone go to look out a window? For the view. And that was one helluva view.

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