Elizabeth Weir/John Sheppard Appreciation/Ship/Discussion Thread

[gateraid]

If what you've said is the case, Im quite upset. And thats just plain childish if thats whats been happening.

Its such as shame that the show is going out on a note like this... *goes and wallows in her West Wing fandom because she's so freaking upset that people can't play nicely together...*

That's all it is, an if. Also, said PTW also likes to wind people up and do the opposite of what he is saying. Everybody has their own slant on things. I doubt we will ever know what is going on there, if anything at all

[Southern Red]

Akk!! I'm not a shipper, I swear

It's silly though. In any show, a scene that plays like that will be one that is touched upon (as in, previously on) at a later date if that ship goes ahead. Shep/Weir was never intended to be a ship, so why put the scene in there to begin with? Are we to believe that Shep had the hots for both Weir and Teyla at that point? It's hard not to get a mixed message, given that they gave us a giant Sheyla anvil not much prior to that with the cave scene

It has always been my belief that he was trying to tell her thanks for believing in him, but the romantic chemistry just drowned him out.

IA.

38 Minutes made me a shipper. Up until that point I could not find anyone to ship Sheppard with, yes I was looking. I guess I just didn't pay attention to Elizabeth until 38 Minutes or the dynamic between John and Elizabeth. I blame this on my lack of interest in the show in general. Although it's strange to fall for a ship when more than half the episode they weren't with each other but the infirmary scene, I was WOE, there is some serious chemistry there. To me it seemed that tptb were trying out sparky and I was happy about it because I could not get into Sheyla or the show. Up until this episode I was just watching because there was nothing else on and Sheppard was pretty.

Did you read my story about the woman in my beach party who had only seen 38 Minutes before we had our Shepathon? She assumed Sparky was the ship and was disbelieving when my friend and I gave her the rundown on the show. Ultimately after watching several episodes with us, she came to the conclusion that the writers were lacking in gray matter.

And the bold part is why I still watch.

I'll say it for the umpteenth time... I saw the chemistry in The Rising, when Elizabeth had the champagne bottle and looked up at John. Every interaction which followed just strengthened my impression. Yes I saw the cave scene but it was so forced when compared to natural chemistry between J and E (and until today J and T chemistry remains to be forced and unnatural). SGA couldn't pick ship, but the ship picked itself. Same thing happened with Ronon and Teyla in S2. Anything else was swimming against the stream. Right now the show is drowning. How ironic is that?

On Sheppard the sexist... I never saw him as one. I don't remeber sexist behavior on his part, and I'm pretty sensitized to that topic. Rodney is far more sexist than John. Writing John as incompetent sexist is OOC, and yes, what gateraid said about JM doing backstabs at JF - that crossed my mind too.

Ditto on the part in bold.

Oh dear. I read the blog of ookie and JM says

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the Carson/John fist bump of sexism was adlibbed by the guys. I guess they were just having fun being men. I'm still not impressed.

Can't speculate on what's happening behind the scenes, but I can't help remembering the "no pictures" conflict between JF and JM.

[gateraid]

It's childish I know, but it's much more fun that the work that I'm trying to avoid

Spoiler:

C: I wanted to apologise for anything I said or did while I had that snake in my head.


E: It's okay, Stephen, I understand. The only thing I'd want inside of me is Colonel Sheppard


E: Wait, ahhh, I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I meant as a controlling entity


C: Whatever you say

[Pajus]

It's childish I know, but it's much more fun that the work that I'm trying to avoid

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C: I wanted to apologise for anything I said or did while I had that snake in my head.

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E: It's okay, Stephen, I understand. The only thing I'd want inside of me is Colonel Sheppard

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E: Wait, ahhh, I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I meant as a controlling entity

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C: Whatever you say

Others on this thread could learn a lot from you

[gateraid]

It has always been my belief that he was trying to tell her thanks for believing in him, but the romantic chemistry just drowned him out.

Good point. That's quite logical but it didn't occur to me because I looking for a knife to cut the sexual tension

Oh dear. I read the blog of ookie and JM says

Spoiler:

the Carson/John fist bump of sexism was adlibbed by the guys. I guess they were just having fun being men. I'm still not impressed.

Can't speculate on what's happening behind the scenes, but I can't help remembering the "no pictures" conflict between JF and JM.

I wasn't even referring to that, although its not the best look. Specifically for that ep, I would pick out

Spoiler:

Shep being made to look stupid by not even knowing the members of his (as CO I assume he would either chose or approve team members) off world teams

[gateraid]

And another one for good measure

Spoiler:

E: Oh my Ronon, that was impressive. I need a moment to recover


K: Sorry to break up your little party, but I'd like to join in


R: Sorry, our threesomes full
K: I can look like anyone you want


E: Anyone? Even John?
K: Yep


E: Rodney, get out.


R: This is not fair. You guys said you were gonna let me join in, then she shows up


R: Get out, or I'll shoot you myself

[Reiko]

I think I should do one of my body language recaps soon, just to show sparky can be scientifically proven.

Well, we have the Sateda recap coming up soon, so we always have our favourite John/Teyla table scene to recap on

Reiko's away, so I may be able to get away with this one

Reiko is never away.

Oh dear. I read the blog of ookie and JM says

Spoiler:

the Carson/John fist bump of sexism was adlibbed by the guys. I guess they were just having fun being men. I'm still not impressed.

My double standard kicks in here, and though I'm not impressed either I'll be somewhat more lenient if it was two of my favourite actors. Though, it definately should have been cut from the final. I mean, didn't they cut out the turtle scene for that or something? TPTW, you suck very hard. Or maybe he's playing the 'blame JF/TH/actor' game...

And another one for good measure

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E: Oh my Ronon, that was impressive. I need a moment to recover

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K: Sorry to break up your little party, but I'd like to join in

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R: Sorry, our threesomes full
K: I can look like anyone you want

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E: Anyone? Even John?
K: Yep

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E: Rodney, get out.

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R: This is not fair. You guys said you were gonna let me join in, then she shows up

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R: Get out, or I'll shoot you myself

LOL. That's just awesome.

[Southern Red]

Good point. That's quite logical but it didn't occur to me because I looking for a knife to cut the sexual tension



I wasn't even referring to that, although its not the best look. Specifically for that ep, I would pick out

Spoiler:

Shep being made to look stupid by not even knowing the members of his (as CO I assume he would either chose or approve team members) off world teams

And on that I thoroughly agree. JM said about that:

Spoiler:

he had seen their names on a list but didn't know they were women. lol No really. I'm serious.

[Reiko]

And on that I thoroughly agree. JM said about that:

Spoiler:

he had seen their names on a list but didn't know they were women. lol No really. I'm serious.

I shouldn't be amused by that, but I am.

Maybe they didn't have their first names on the list. Why am I even making excuses for tptw's stupidity?

[Southern Red]

I shouldn't be amused by that, but I am.

Maybe they didn't have their first names on the list. Why am I even making excuses for tptw's stupidity?

*shrugs* My husband the Marine said it's possible

Spoiler:

that Shep wouldn't know who the women were if they were new. And it sounds like they were. Though he seemed to know Teldy fairly well. I mean who jokes with their commanding officer of the opposite sex about his calves and glutes? I wonder if something was being implied here. *vomits* Yet on the other hand I can imagine these women at girls' poker night gossiping about Sparky. New girls wondering why Sheppard is so sad. Old timers telling them they should have seen how charming and happy he was back in the day.

Plot bunny alert. *runs*

[Pajus]

And on that I thoroughly agree. JM said about that:

Spoiler:

he had seen their names on a list but didn't know they were women. lol No really. I'm serious.

Spoiler:

So JM know guys named Alicia, Anne, Allison and Busty Dusty?

I shouldn't be amused by that, but I am.

Maybe they didn't have their first names on the list. Why am I even making excuses for tptw's stupidity?

Only you can know that... Are you turning pro?

[gateraid]

I shouldn't be amused by that, but I am.

Maybe they didn't have their first names on the list. Why am I even making excuses for tptw's stupidity?

It's not so bad. I read Anuna's big bang fic the other day, & I came out liking Keller

Of course the instant I saw her on screen again, I returned to my default setting

Seriously though, apart from my temporary Keller euphoria, it's a pretty good fic. I recommend setting aside an afternoon though

[Reiko]

Only you can know that... Are you turning pro?

Oh, don't you dare!

My recorder didn't record The Shrine and Whispers. I'm pissed because now I can't snark at those. though I shall obtain them through other means *LAS*

[gateraid]

I remember why I stopped this

Spoiler:

H: According to this, even though we were in a lockdown, you and Colonel Sheppard slept in the same room last night. Were you congratulating him on his promotion?


E: Say one word to anyone & they'll never find your body

[gateraid]

Topic drift

Spoiler:

R: While I'm stuck in here, I may as well go through my photo album to kill time.


Lt: Sir, there's a transmission coming in
C: Put it on the viewscreen. What the hell?
Lt: It looks like naked pictures of Dr McKay sir


C: Oh god turn it off now!! My eyes, they burn!!