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**Anuna** · 24 March 2008, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

.: Okay. I'll admit it: I've become a Sparky shipper and I am not ashamed.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

*thud*

*gets up*

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Welcome to the insanity of sparky Reiko! Can't tell you how happy I am to see you here! Shall we toss fanfics and videos your way? *g*

**AnnaBee** · 24 March 2008, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by mcat View Post

Yaaay for Sparky! I tried to green you Reiko but it wouldn't let me. I'd like to get in on the discussion of TS/TE but I'm in lurker/vacation mode right now (plus omg new Renfic to read) so I'll catch up when I'm feeling more up to it. Maybe during the day we discuss "Sanctuary"

. Hope everyone is well!

Oh PS Reiko I definitely started secret-shipping Teyla/Carson during The Storm! They would be cute together.

...new renfic? New. Renfic??????
Oh, so not fair posting it now after I've just started rereading the whole thing!

But I digress: YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!

*gone*

**Scary Kitty** · 24 March 2008, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

.: I'm totally with you there. It's too ... cliche, to have a childish, hip ~~girl~~ woman that has the potential guy interest. *cough*Keller*cough* Elizabeth is mature, even when 'flirting' with Shep.

Also too cliché to have the cool alien warrior woman going for the lead. *cough*Teyla*cough*Larrin*cough* Worked for Farscape's John and Aeryn, but not for John Sheppard.

Originally posted by Reiko View Post

.: At this point, I'm fine living in the past.

Fandom is cooler than canon any day.

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

I'm getting a Star Wars vibe tonight. Perhaps Yoda can show TPTB the power of the ~~Sparky~~ force.

Hmm... complete with Yoda levitating the Daedalus and then "accidentally" dropping it on TPTB, leaving Carl Binder the sole survivor and heir to the showrunners' chair, perhaps?

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

What I wouldn't give for 10 minutes alone with JF just to find out what he really thinks about all this.

You, me, all the antis and everyone else in this thread!

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

My first Sparky exposure was a fan vid. They didn't even have to say anything, it was all in the body language and especially their eyes. Have you ever seen two people communicate better without saying anything?

Yep. Those two can set a room on fire just by looking at each other!

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

You're right, they shouldn't have killed him. But since they were determined to do it, they should have used a story involving Elizabeth because Koyla really respected her and it would have played out a heck of a lot more interesting.

Respected her, maybe even seekretly lusted for her... (oh, what a plot twist that would've been!)

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

There's that Star Wars again. I might put my faith in ~~Obi-Wan~~ Carl & JF, but Darth Vader still lurks in the shadows.

Darth Mallozzi!

Originally posted by Irish Eyes View Post

Reiko! Sparky sucked you in, huh?

Sparky: We're not just taking over the world. We're taking over the Universe.

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

Welcome to the insanity of sparky Reiko! Can't tell you how happy I am to see you here! Shall we toss fanfics and videos your way? *g*

I do believe we should!

I'll get the fic party started with a recommendation for the Stargate: Renaissance AU series (the first installment of a new story was just posted earlier tonight!). No Carson/Teyla, though; sorry 'bout that.

And you'll find lots of Sparky fics of various types at the Sheppard/Weir comm on LJ.

Happy reading!

**Anuna** · 25 March 2008, 02:46 AM

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

**sofie** · 25 March 2008, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

WOOHOO!!!

I've been listening to this song called 'I survived you' by Natalia. She's a belgian singer who is simply fantastic. This her new song, and I can't help but think Sparky.. What do you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dk0j4f4NU

**Torri012** · 25 March 2008, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

lol. congrats anuna!
i'm going to too in summer

@ sofie:
i always think 'sparky'

**Southern Red** · 25 March 2008, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

The Sparky thread celebrates Anuna Liberation Day!!!!!

**Anuna** · 25 March 2008, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by sofie View Post

WOOHOO!!!

I've been listening to this song called 'I survived you' by Natalia. She's a belgian singer who is simply fantastic. This her new song, and I can't help but think Sparky.. What do you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dk0j4f4NU

Originally posted by Torri012 View Post

lol. congrats anuna!
i'm going to too in summer

@ sofie:
i always think 'sparky'

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

The Sparky thread celebrates Anuna Liberation Day!!!!!

Thank you!!! You're the best - now I'm off to write a new piece for the smuthaton and I'll do my best for you to get it soon!

*hugs and kisses*

I shall mark this day in my calendar. *nods* Anuna liberation day. It sounds really important and I like it!

**Eri13** · 25 March 2008, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

WOOT! *waves liberation flag*

As someone who is having to reside with parents due to economic strain, I salute your independence.

And now...I'm so excited I'm seeing 2 days discussion on this...picspam, fanfic recs...everyone who comments must make one small comment on why this episode is LUFF!

Every episode we've done so far save 38 minutes has required me to refresh my mind with a transcript overlook. I confess this one requires none. I've watched it way too many times *holds up video iPod* and it goes with me everywhere.

The Eye

Um, where do I begin?? How about at the beginning...

Picking up that marvelous cliffhanger.

GAH! The picture of John gives me chills! *headdesk*

This is the scene where I started to like Rodney. I'd seen I don't know how many episodes with him, and really just got annoyed by his attitude. Rodney is one of those characters (and David Hewlett plays to this) who seems always irritating until he gets a redemptive moment, and then you realize all that annoyance is actually really endearing.

Rodney's jumping in here, being non-cowardly, made me like him. After this episode, I wasn't ever really bothered by him again.

I also like Elizabeth's response to him after Kolya backs down: "You stood in front of a gun for me." So understated--it's a great line.

I confess I wasn't expecting a 'chess match' type thing with Kolya and John. I figured John would hear Elizabeth survived--so when Kolya bluffs she's dead, I was really surprised, and SUPER excited. If I had to pick a moment where the shipping started, this was it--because I knew, eventually, he'd find out she was actually alive and the reaction, given his reaction here, would be a good one. And I looked forward to it.

Last early comment--I have to go now, but I'll be back with more pictures:

I really liked Ladon in this episode, and I'm glad he came back--particularly since his character is multi-layered. But this sequence, where John kills the three Genii sniper-style, was really suspenseful. And it was such an interesting twist, to have him so bent out of shape over what Kolya did to Weir, that he would kill three men so easily. Honestly, Joe F. can really look frightening when he wants to.

**Southern Red** · 25 March 2008, 07:11 AM

This episode was Die Hard to me. We got a whole new look at Sheppard and I liked it very much. A lot of people started shipping them with this one. It seemed at the time that it was almost an over reaction from John. I actually don't believe we've seen him lose it like this since. I blame the writers for that because Rambo!John is too good for words. And yes, JF can be really scary. I hope someday we get to see him do evil in a movie.

**Eri13** · 25 March 2008, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by Southern Red View Post

I blame the writers for that because Rambo!John is too good for words. And yes, JF can be really scary. I hope someday we get to see him do evil in a movie.

Hee...evil Joe would be great. Thinking on "Doppelganger"--such a tease.

I blame the writers too, because they teased us with this and never really gave us another great, intense episode like this, except maybe "Conversion" and "Critical Mass", and "The Siege" series--oh, and Common Ground--those were the only ones I can think of that kept me on the edge of my seat like "The Eye". I wish we'd gotten more.

Funnily enough, it was Gero who wrote these episodes. I always wondered about that, because I think he later tried to smother Sparky. But "The Eye" is probably one of the 5 Sparky hallmark episodes.

**Eri13** · 25 March 2008, 09:36 AM

Okay, Round 2...*nudges Sparkies*

Into the Rain...

Listening to the commentary on this (yes, I did that too) is funny, to hear how miserable everyone (namely, Torri and David) were at this shoot. Gero comments on how he had written this great script about a storm pounding Atlantis, and Weir and McKay being held hostage in it and it's all very dramatic wind-pounding, thunder booming stuff. Torri and David (who's also on the commentary) thought it was fantastic--until they were stuck on this set for about 3 days of shooting. The water was INCREDIBLY cold, which you can see by the redness of DH's face (he calls himself Santa Clause

) and by Torri's pale, pale complexion.

As the only ones in costume other than Robert Davi, they had to endure these horrid conditions without anything to keep them warm. All the crew, directors and equipment were wrapped in parkas and rainproof gear, but the actors had to maintain their appearance, and there wasn't enough time between takes to send them blankets--plus there was no point, everyone just got soaked again. You'll notice Robert pacing quite often in the back of the set, but Weir and McKay, as the hostages, were forced under the main parts of the water. At one point David laughs because he had positioned himself under an awning in the intent of keeping water off Torri, but didn't realize that it would pour down just to his right--completely on top of her.

One of the fave scenes of Mckay/Weir shippers, where McKay wraps his arm around Weir, was because David felt incredibly sorry for Torri, who, being very skinny, was absolutely freezing. He's trying to keep her warm, and it made it into the episode, which he was surprised at.

I forget how many gallons of water it took to shoot these scenes, but the pier was specially built inside the studio, and the freezing water was recycled in massive amounts. By the end of the shoot, Torri's face was almost blue with cold, and you can see it in the final scene where McKay fixes the grounding station.

MY FAVORITE SCENE

John: "Weir's alive??"

I LOVED THIS SCENE. Every minute of it. Kolya's face, realizing what a screw up he made telling Sheppard Weir was dead, John's very casual/killer attitude until Kolya tells him Elizabeth's death was just a bluff--and then *BOOM!* he's all business and worries and desperation as he tries to get to the generators in time to save her--again.

yes, you fool, that WAS a big mistake telling him she was dead, wasn't it?

One little tidbit I notice in particular--did anyone else catch Rodney's expression as he listens to this over the walkie convo? Seemed like he was surprised...

One interesting note is the fact that John's emotions and actions change over Weir's 'death/life' and only that. Never mind that after Kolya 'killed' Weir, he still had Rodney as a hostage--Sheppard didn't care. And once Weir's found to be alive, John's commando spree stops and he's all about doing what he can to save her. I don't think that this is completely intentional so much as the writers needed an excuse for John to go ballistic, but the fact that it happens is there on film.

Poor Rodney. John doesn't love you as much. :McKay:

Finally--my one and only gripe about the episode--Torri's dialogue. On the commentary, Gero reveals that Torri's actual dialogue was misprinted, and no one caught it. Since refilming was essentially out of the question for two little words, they left it in. The scene goes like this:

John: Let me talk to her!
Elizabeth: Sheppard! We're both here!
John: It's good to hear your voice.
Elizabeth: Yeah, it's good to hear!

It should have read like this:

John: Let me talk to her!
Elizabeth: Sheppard! We're both here!
John: It's good to hear your voice.
Elizabeth: Yes, it's good to hear yours, too!

*clenched fist* OH FATES! WHY SO CRUEL! How Torri could have played that! How John could have reacted. *headdesk*

As far as the Carson, Teyla and Ford parts, I really enjoy the Carson&Ford moments--especially Ford being bossy. I thought that suited him well, and I wish we could have had a bit more time leading other squads, a la Lorne.

Next part...the end. *sigh*

**Wormhole** · 25 March 2008, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Anuna View Post

OT but important for your fellow poster:

Spoiler:

I'm moving! I'm gonna live on my own! Please cross your fingers for me people!

Congrats.

Three’s a Crowd

How does this sound to everyone? Yes a new story idea

.

It’s something I’ve wanted to do for a while. Ever since The Storm and The Eye when both John and Rodney tried to divulge their feelings for Elizabeth.

Lover's Triangle idea; where John and Rodney both try to win Elizabeth over.

Neither of them knows about each others feelings for Elizabeth, till later in the story when they catch each out out; maybe over a meal and a challenge is put in place.

Nothing gets resolved till there's an accident, which puts someones life in danger and John and Rodney have to put their differences behind them.

I won’t be posting any of this story till after I finished An Eye for an Eye, it’ll give me time to write out the plot lines first.[/

**Scary Kitty** · 25 March 2008, 01:10 PM

Rescuing the thread from Page 2...

Go Anuna! Congratulations! *joins in waving liberation flags*

And now, onto...