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    Before I head to sleep.... here be a fic rec: Pillow by Vixen!


    I'm reading your story, SoulSpinder and I like it so far!!!!
    I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.

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      Originally posted by nogigglingmajor View Post
      I taking that last sentence as sarcasm? Forgot to say, i had a wonderful sparky dream last night...only can't remember much of it except that the whole dream was played out to a song! *laughs*

      Personally for me it was s2 that was so hard to watch. mainly because it ripped off too many SG1 storylines. I stopped about 5 eps in, but I'm trying to watch it again now cause i have to read up to s5 to be able to write this fic I'm working on. But s2 is really grating on me!
      I enjoyed S2 for bits and pieces--I thought S3 had better personal moments with the group (and more Liz 'action') but wasn't the same weight of S1 & S2. The storyline was darker in S2, with the loss of Ford and the experiments into Wraith genetics. S3 ditched all of that and introduced the Replicator enemy, which was pressing but not as dark a storyline until S4.

      Originally posted by nogigglingmajor View Post
      So
      Spoiler:
      What actually happened with Torri. What's the story? And is it a definite that there will be no more Elizabeth on screen for the rest of SGA?
      As to Torri...

      Spoiler:
      We don't know why she turned it down. According to JM's blog, it wasn't due to the actual script, because he said script wasn't discussed.

      All we know about the situation was that they wanted her back for one episode in S5, with a potential 'arc' for S6 if they got one. Perhaps the fact that she'd have to book her time way in advance, given how SGA shoots, would have interfered with opportunities with other shows (which generally shoot much closer to show air dates than SGA). I personally hope it was a timing issue for Torri--hopefully she's got prospects on the horizon and SGA shooting would have interfered with it. It would be lovely to see her again.

      As for 'Elizabeth'--we have no answer. The ending of BAMSR is going to be resolved, we just haven't been told how. They cannot do anything with Torri, but that doesn't mean they can't have the rogue replicators come back with their leader never revealed to the Atlantis crew. She could be left out there as a mysterious presence in charge without our Atlantis people knowing she's out there. Or, they could blow up that ship in one episode with a far away double pretending to be her getting caught in the explosion. They can CGI morph her into someone.

      And though I HOPE they don't, they can recast, even. Have Weir come back as some new face.

      And while I hope Torri gets to move on to bigger and better things, there is always the caveat of 'never say never'. No one can say that she won't be back for certain. I'd say 90% unlikely, perhaps, but there is no guarantee she's completely out for good. I'm not hoping on that, though, or even wishing for it, really.
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        Originally posted by Eri13 View Post
        I enjoyed S2 for bits and pieces--I thought S3 had better personal moments with the group (and more Liz 'action') but wasn't the same weight of S1 & S2. The storyline was darker in S2, with the loss of Ford and the experiments into Wraith genetics. S3 ditched all of that and introduced the Replicator enemy, which was pressing but not as dark a storyline until S4.



        As to Torri...

        Spoiler:
        We don't know why she turned it down. According to JM's blog, it wasn't due to the actual script, because he said script wasn't discussed.

        All we know about the situation was that they wanted her back for one episode in S5, with a potential 'arc' for S6 if they got one. Perhaps the fact that she'd have to book her time way in advance, given how SGA shoots, would have interfered with opportunities with other shows (which generally shoot much closer to show air dates than SGA). I personally hope it was a timing issue for Torri--hopefully she's got prospects on the horizon and SGA shooting would have interfered with it. It would be lovely to see her again.

        As for 'Elizabeth'--we have no answer. The ending of BAMSR is going to be resolved, we just haven't been told how. They cannot do anything with Torri, but that doesn't mean they can't have the rogue replicators come back with their leader never revealed to the Atlantis crew. She could be left out there as a mysterious presence in charge without our Atlantis people knowing she's out there. Or, they could blow up that ship in one episode with a far away double pretending to be her getting caught in the explosion. They can CGI morph her into someone.

        And though I HOPE they don't, they can recast, even. Have Weir come back as some new face.


        And while I hope Torri gets to move on to bigger and better things, there is always the caveat of 'never say never'. No one can say that she won't be back for certain. I'd say 90% unlikely, perhaps, but there is no guarantee she's completely out for good. I'm not hoping on that, though, or even wishing for it, really.
        Look at the bolded part under the spoiler tags. I agree with you - they could do that, nothing is "below" them, but it would be so cheap!

        That's why I stopped watching and decided to keep my sparky, and not SGA.
        I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.

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          Originally posted by Anuna View Post
          Look at the bolded part under the spoiler tags. I agree with you - they could do that, nothing is "below" them, but it would be so cheap!

          That's why I stopped watching and decided to keep my sparky, and not SGA.
          I agree.

          Spoiler:


          My absolute limit--where I go from being disappointed to hating TPTB, is when they do something callous because they're mad at an actor or just want a character 'gone'. I've had it happen once or twice where a body double was put in place of a fired/quit actor and they just 'blew them up' and BOOM! character was dead. *SCREAMS*

          I hope they don't do that to Weir.

          I don't think I'm going to find out anyway, however. All of this has turned me off to watching any SGA at the moment; I've missed the last two new episodes because I still feel sad (over the situation, and the initial decision to let Elizabeth go which started all of this in the first place). I may come back to see Beckett, but I'm honestly not sure right now. I wasn't lying in my blog comment about not being sure.

          I do like John, though, and Teyla, so I may give it another chance when some of the disappointment has worn off. The difficulty is seeing them and always comparing how it would have been different with Elizabeth there. Especially when Woolsey comes in.

          And more than anything, I want reaction. I've never been satisfied with the character reactions over the loss of Elizabeth--where none of them had a major change in attitude despite losing someone they loved. I've never quite gotten over that, and as the Elizabeth episodes draw further away, I know I'm not going to get them. That is the worst part of all for me, who places so much of my joy in storytelling on the characters themselves.
          Last edited by Eri13; 15 February 2008, 03:54 PM.
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            Okay sparkies I'm off to bed. See you in few days, I'll be visiting my mom. Vote sparky!
            I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.

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              Originally posted by Anuna View Post
              Yay that's a cute siggy you have! Come here more often, we are kind of lonely and always look forward to new people who want to chat and have fun. Yes, sparky is kind of hidden this season, but we still have all those amazing moments - and will have them always! Thanx for dropping by!




              This is what I miss so much...
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                Originally posted by PaulrissaRahany View Post
                This is what I miss so much...
                Awww look at how they're flirting in front of everyone. Little smirk, tilted head ...

                Goodnight Anuna! I will miss you over the weekend. Hurry back!
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                  *runs away*

                  Sparky on youtube

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                    Originally posted by mcat View Post
                    http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o310/lantea/nomnom.jpg[/IMG]

                    *runs away*
                    Yay another one. Keep 'em coming!

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                      Originally posted by PaulrissaRahany View Post
                      This is what I miss so much...
                      Awwww! I love Submersion...though it doesn't have all the great overall moments like Echoes, the initial John/Elizabeth stuff in it is really funny and great...especially the 'you're with me...or, I'm with you..." "Either way or eye-ther way" line.

                      It was really nice to see John and Elizabeth exploring the hallways together--kinda like it was easy for them to be together. I wish they'd gotten to do it longer.

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                        and Elizabeth had really good hair..

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                          Originally posted by oparu View Post
                          and Elizabeth had really good hair..
                          I loved Elizabeth's hair third season. I swear every episode she got even more beautiful.

                          Sparky on youtube

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                            Vote Sparkies!
                            http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...=50374&page=73

                            I'm going on the plan to knock out the lowest scoring ship (before knocking off Sheyla). But Laura/Carson are the lowest scoring (then Spanky), they're so darn cute though!

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                              I want a Shep/Weir and Teyla/Ronon showdown, cause I love both those ships. Heee.
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                              My OTP's LEAP with passion. Weir did it better.

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                                It's too quiet in here
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