Ok, I thought about this episode all night at work, and I love what everyone is saying about it. I don't think I am going to post more untill I see it for myself. But I think the "Shep/Teyla" thing was an act of desperation and not really a shippy moment for the two.
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Originally posted by Easter LilyI've seen TLG... It's not too bad... a nice team episode, something Atlantis used to be really good at... My respect for Teyla and Caldwell has increased a notch...
I didn't see any S/T shippyness... it's too ambiguous either way... The context is subterfuge and desperation so it's hard to know whether theSpoiler:"He cares for you more than you know line"
Just my 2 cents...Spoiler:would have shot himsigpic
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Very good episode, both very funny and dramatic, I really enjoyed it.
Spoiler:I think they had to do something about Shep and Teyla who just haven't talked to each other in ages... And I more than ever think that Teyla had a crush on him and still does, even if she can't help making eye-sex with Ronon !
The end was just, oh so sweet and hilarious with both of them lying in their beds in sickbay and Caldwell teasing them about the kiss !! I looooved it !
Shep just couldn't look her in the eye and kept playing gameboy or I don't know what, that's just our old Shep, the same we had on the balcony two weeks ago...
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Originally posted by Jenova SynthesisSecond that. The Sheyla part was about trust, nothing else. It showed that Teyla is a great leader imo bc she was right about the whole scenery and did what was best for Atlantis. And sheSpoiler:would have shot himSpoiler:I think she really showed how able she was to make the tough decisions but as for any "feelings" she may have had for Sheppard... or him for her... it's anybody's guess,sigpic
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
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Originally posted by The wicked WitchVery good episode, both very funny and dramatic, I really enjoyed it.
Spoiler:I think they had to do something about Shep and Teyla who just haven't talked to each other in ages... And I more than ever think that Teyla had a crush on him and still does, even if she can't help making eye-sex with Ronon !
The end was just, oh so sweet and hilarious with both of them lying in their beds in sickbay and Caldwell teasing them about the kiss !! I looooved it !
Shep just couldn't look her in the eye and kept playing gameboy or I don't know what, that's just our old Shep, the same we had on the balcony two weeks ago...
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OMG, just watched the clip of the end scene. And all I have to say is...wow.Spoiler:Just the *fact* that tptb allowed the kiss to be pointed out and brought up by a third party and then left dangling is absolutely fantastic! And it is awesome that it's Caldwell that does so! He has questioned Elizabeth's strong feelings for John already and her expression was a mixture of embarrassment and even a bit of concern that she's going to be even more scrutinized now that the cat is out of the bag a bit further. But just wow on how they tweaked that last scene and allowed it to be 'handled'. To point out that it would be 'remembered' by both parties but not 'put to rest' ala Conversion is...imo...just huge.
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Originally posted by The wicked WitchVery good episode, both very funny and dramatic, I really enjoyed it.
Spoiler:I think they had to do something about Shep and Teyla who just haven't talked to each other in ages... And I more than ever think that Teyla had a crush on him and still does, even if she can't help making eye-sex with Ronon !
The end was just, oh so sweet and hilarious with both of them lying in their beds in sickbay and Caldwell teasing them about the kiss !! I looooved it !
Shep just couldn't look her in the eye and kept playing gameboy or I don't know what, that's just our old Shep, the same we had on the balcony two weeks ago...
I noticed too thatSpoiler:Teyla and Shep had no scene since Conversion. Except their talking over the radio in Tower.
The end is so cute! At first I was mad at Caldwell for interrupting them but when he mentioned the kiss to tease them I could hug him! He so knows!
Also loved Shep's concern bc they were a married couple; when he said 'They are married. You know, everything could happen' and Rodney's answer 'We are all adulds'.Last edited by Jenova Synthesis; 03 January 2006, 04:45 AM.sigpic
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Mostly I'm just relieved that Sheppard didn't look like some hormonally driven puerile sexually-deprived maniac. On the contrary, I liked the implication that he isSpoiler:a hopeless romanticsigpic
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
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Originally posted by BamaOMG, just watched the clip of the end scene. And all I have to say is...wow.Spoiler:Just the *fact* that tptb allowed the kiss to be pointed out and brought up by a third party and then left dangling is absolutely fantastic! And it is awesome that it's Caldwell that does so! He has questioned Elizabeth's strong feelings for John already and her expression was a mixture of embarrassment and even a bit of concern that she's going to be even more scrutinized now that the cat is out of the bag a bit further. But just wow on how they tweaked that last scene and allowed it to be 'handled'. To point out that it would be 'remembered' by both parties but not 'put to rest' ala Conversion is...imo...just huge.Spoiler:I was like "ha! She loves him allright! they should have shown Sheppard close up too though
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Originally posted by BamaOMG, just watched the clip of the end scene. And all I have to say is...wow.Spoiler:Just the *fact* that tptb allowed the kiss to be pointed out and brought up by a third party and then left dangling is absolutely fantastic! And it is awesome that it's Caldwell that does so! He has questioned Elizabeth's strong feelings for John already and her expression was a mixture of embarrassment and even a bit of concern that she's going to be even more scrutinized now that the cat is out of the bag a bit further. But just wow on how they tweaked that last scene and allowed it to be 'handled'. To point out that it would be 'remembered' by both parties but not 'put to rest' ala Conversion is...imo...just huge.Couldn't agree more! Did you see Lizzie's expression? Priceless.Spoiler:
I was like "ha! She loves him allright! they should have shown Sheppard close up too though
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Oddly enough, TLG conversation got me to thinking about Conversion and my post from last night about how John is still confused and not sure of himself in regard to his feelings etc touched on this but I wanted to add a thought. John Sheppard has some incredibly strong emotions in regard to Elizabeth but he simply does not know how to channel them. His animalistic behavior toward her in Conversion is incredible in hindsight. HeSpoiler:smashes a wall in her office. He grabs her by the throat violently even as he warns her he's not himself.
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Originally posted by ErisedCouldn't agree more! Did you see Lizzie's expression? Priceless.Spoiler:I was like "ha! She loves him allright! they should have shown Sheppard close up too thoughSpoiler:Shep also had his "I thought that was you" face on. The next ep will be interesting. Can we hope for follow through? Though it has taken this far into the season it seems we get some sort of completion of the "trust" issue. Love that Teyla didn't believe him. The girl's got eyes. Caldwell was soooo teasing them, and it doesn't look like he's ready to make a stink. He's starting to impress me. Even though he looks like my father in law
Now we can start getting excited about The Hive on Friday. Finally something new for us.
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Spoiler:I more and more think that Caldwell has a little crush on Elizabeth too...
I think Caldwell knows very well about Elizabeth's feelings and it was very smart of him and very fair-play too to mention the kiss in sickbay (and very funny, thanks dude !). With Shep playing the I-don't-care-that-much guy, who knows what can happen... Ahlala, good old Shep is such a complex guy...
Have you seen his face when Elizabeth teases him about being host to Thalan, in sickbay, at the beginning of the ep ? Poor baby, he is so embarrassed !!
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Originally posted by ErisedCouldn't agree more! Did you see Lizzie's expression? Priceless.Spoiler:I was like "ha! She loves him allright! they should have shown Sheppard close up too though
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