STAKS: The Anti-Kirking Discussion Thread

[Tracy Jane]

Ok. Nice to know. Thanks.

[Easter Lily]

Just because you happen to not like an aspect of a given actor but someone else does, it's not a horrible insult or bad thing, it's just a difference of opinion. the key to this is to not take things personally.

criticizing the character is not bashing the actor. disliking an aspect of a character's storyline is not a horrible insult.

Amen to that Skydiver...

May I also add that our recently negative reaction to Sheppard has more to do with the WRITING of the character than the portrayal or the character himself. A lot of us are Sheppard fans... we love the character and saw a lot of potential in S1 but that potential has largely been left wanting. This thread is about people expressing that disappointment and there wouldn't be disappointment if we didn't care or if the expectation isn't there.

But this once-off romance among the stars syndrome, in my opinion, detracts from the story as much as or more so from ongoing ship in the show. It takes something away from the substance and integrity of the character... as we've seen in recent episodes. 40 plus minutes is not really long enough to give a romance substance and all it does is convince the viewer that the character is nothing but eye fodder.

[NotANumber]

Hmmmm. You have a point there. But, Q. If Weir is hot, then why do we need kirking to bring in hot chicks? (Backside covering Note: Pointing out to Qasim that his argument is flawed, I actually agree that Weir is hot. This is not in any way insulting to Weir, TH, other posters, or anyone)

She definitely is hot, especially in The Long Goodbye when she has that devilish whisp of hair hanging down over her face.

[Jenova Synthesis]

She definitely is hot, especially in The Long Goodbye when she has that devilish whisp of hair hanging down over her face.

^Perfect description!

[Qasim]

She definitely is hot, especially in The Long Goodbye when she has that devilish whisp of hair hanging down over her face.

^^ ooh look artistic interpretation of me admiring the view

[Tracy Jane]

I think it's most of us.

Hang on... is this nota discussion for the Elizabeth Wow thread?

[Jenova Synthesis]

I think it's most of us.

Hang on... is this nota discussion for the Elizabeth Wow thread?

Nope. Already posted it in Liz WOW. We can go on over there.

[mad_gater]

*is resurrected*

*ascends and opens a can of whup-ass*

You're forgetting one thing....the Ascended do not interfere in the lower plane...you just attracted the attention of the Others....guess who's butt's bein' kicked now?

[mad_gater]

Guys, i think we need a little refresher course in tolerance here. we have over 13,000 people on this forum with an untold number of lurkers...which means we're going to have folks from pretty much every point of view hanging and posting here.

Now this can be a great thing. For example we can share things about our lives, such as folks from another religion sharing with us thier point of view and, hopefully, broadening our horizons.

but to learn about each other, people also need to be aware that they can and will be exposed to points of views or opinions that don't fit in with thier own. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, people need to be tolerant and respectful towards those with whom they don't necessarily agree.

Just because you happen to not like an aspect of a given actor but someone else does, it's not a horrible insult or bad thing, it's just a difference of opinion. the key to this is to not take things personally.

criticizing the character is not bashing the actor. disliking an aspect of a character's storyline is not a horrible insult.

While discussion about the actors' personal lives is discouraged, their performance on the screen is open territory.

There are threads here with which i totally disagree...i don't visit them as a poster because of that fact.

Just because you don't like a thread doesn't mean that it should cease to exist - heck if we did that we'd have no threads here cause i guarantee you that someone here dislikes every single thread.

If you can peacefully co-exist and play within the thread, then please do. Join in and debate and learn something. However if you find that your tolerance level for a topic means that you can't separate yourself from the topic and that your passions will rule your actions, then it might be a good idea to just leave the thread and let things be.

Well I'm just playin' around with Q....If it was taken the wrong way I apologize.

[Cpt. Ritter]

Amen to that Skydiver...

May I also add that our recently negative reaction to Sheppard has more to do with the WRITING of the character than the portrayal or the character himself. A lot of us are Sheppard fans... we love the character and saw a lot of potential in S1 but that potential has largely been left wanting. This thread is about people expressing that disappointment and there wouldn't be disappointment if we didn't care or if the expectation isn't there.

But this once-off romance among the stars syndrome, in my opinion, detracts from the story as much as or more so from ongoing ship in the show. It takes something away from the substance and integrity of the character... as we've seen in recent episodes. 40 plus minutes is not really long enough to give a romance substance and all it does is convince the viewer that the character is nothing but eye fodder.

I totally agree Easter Lily. You deserve some green.

[Tracy Jane]

Well I'm just playin' around with Q....If it was taken the wrong way I apologize.

Don't worry, MG, it wasn't that. Although it was slightly off topic

[prion]

May I also add that our recently negative reaction to Sheppard has more to do with the WRITING of the character than the portrayal or the character himself. A lot of us are Sheppard fans... we love the character and saw a lot of potential in S1 but that potential has largely been left wanting. This thread is about people expressing that disappointment and there wouldn't be disappointment if we didn't care or if the expectation isn't there.

But this once-off romance among the stars syndrome, in my opinion, detracts from the story as much as or more so from ongoing ship in the show. It takes something away from the substance and integrity of the character... as we've seen in recent episodes. 40 plus minutes is not really long enough to give a romance substance and all it does is convince the viewer that the character is nothing but eye fodder.

How true....!

[Chrysalis]

Amen to that Skydiver...

May I also add that our recently negative reaction to Sheppard has more to do with the WRITING of the character than the portrayal or the character himself. A lot of us are Sheppard fans... we love the character and saw a lot of potential in S1 but that potential has largely been left wanting. This thread is about people expressing that disappointment and there wouldn't be disappointment if we didn't care or if the expectation isn't there.

But this once-off romance among the stars syndrome, in my opinion, detracts from the story as much as or more so from ongoing ship in the show. It takes something away from the substance and integrity of the character... as we've seen in recent episodes. 40 plus minutes is not really long enough to give a romance substance and all it does is convince the viewer that the character is nothing but eye fodder.

The reaction's definitely not aimed at Joe or John.
If we didn't care about the character and the actor who plays him, we wouldn't care what sort of storylines he's involved in. We could just look at him and say "hmm. He's pretty".
It's more to us. It's about integrity. This character has so much potential, and Joe should be given the kind of material that lets him show that potential.

[Erised]

She definitely is hot, especially in The Long Goodbye when she has that devilish whisp of hair hanging down over her face.

definately!!!!!!!!!!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/LJAtl/capture.jpg
we want more Evil!Lizzie

Amen to that Skydiver...

May I also add that our recently negative reaction to Sheppard has more to do with the WRITING of the character than the portrayal or the character himself. A lot of us are Sheppard fans... we love the character and saw a lot of potential in S1 but that potential has largely been left wanting. This thread is about people expressing that disappointment and there wouldn't be disappointment if we didn't care or if the expectation isn't there.

But this once-off romance among the stars syndrome, in my opinion, detracts from the story as much as or more so from ongoing ship in the show. It takes something away from the substance and integrity of the character... as we've seen in recent episodes. 40 plus minutes is not really long enough to give a romance substance and all it does is convince the viewer that the character is nothing but eye fodder.

I agree. We see all this kirking as a horrible way to develop your character in the beginning of this show, we are all fighting here aboout it, we see it a sa big negative to Sheppard. Then we get that damn interview, we go read other interviews, we look for other rumors until the actor looks like the worst person to be around. At this point it gets so rediculous that you realize this is all one big bs, and you drop all your suspicions. I know I did. Joe and John are both redeemed in my eyes for now

[Tracy Jane]

Erised and others, just a little point.... we don't just see it as a negative to Sheppard but to any character in the Gate universe.