Was anyone else disappointed John and Teyla (spoilers)

[Skydiver]

Oh how I wish I could have come back from vacation and discovered that things had changed, even a little. That maybe folks had 'grown up' a little and learned to focus on their likes and enjoy what they have in common, instead of getting all bent out of shape cause someone, somewhere, dares to be different or to think differently.

But I see that the supreme sense of self-entitlement, selfishness, nastiness and intolerance is still as overwhelming as ever.

What is it with people that play on a forum, that are deliberately seeking out an exchange of ideas, that then get their knickers in a knot if anyone dares to disagree with them? Who cry for and demand freedom of speech when it means they can snark at others and be mean, but then demand that others be shut up when they don't agree with them.

So some of you wish Shep and Teyla had gotten together. ANd some are happy that they didn't. Some don't mind Kanan, others hate him with a passion. And it seems that the one thing a lot of you have in common is a general sense of intolerance for others. People, instead of moving on with their day, spend hours obsessing over someone on a forum disagreeing with them and how DARE they do that!!!!!!

How about you spend your time enjoying what you do have in common, an appreciation for a television show, in ALL its varieties, instead of tossing virtual tantrums and getting all bent out of shape cause someone dared to not cater to your personal preferences and likes.

This thread is taking a time out, and I honestly don't know when I'll feel like opening it back up again.

If you can't play nice with each other, maybe you don't need to be playing at all.

[Linda06]

Same here, Linda. I prefer the real Carson, but I'll take the cloned version.

It's better than no Carson in my book.



Well now, I do try you know...

I didn't like the way they used him in season 5 I wanted my little cute Scotty back

That you do

[Atlantis4Life]

I would have preferred the real Carson aYE i WISH WE COULD HAVE KEPT jANET

Same here, Linda. I prefer the real Carson, but I'll take the cloned version.

It's better than no Carson in my book.

*pats head* Good lad

Well now, I do try you know...

J/T had 4 years to come together before Kanaan and they didn't. So I don't see a reason why Teyla should break up with the father of her child and I don't want Kanaan to die.

Technically it was 3 years and some change considering that Teyla was pregnant by Kanaan in the 4th season, but who's counting...

I see reasons for a T/K break-up, but that's because we have differing views which is fine.

Btw, I don't think anybody wished Teyla or Larrin or Nancy or any other woman was dead, just to get John and Elizabeth together.

And, I don't wish Kanaan to be dead, either (but I won't be sorry if his death happens in the "probably won't get made" movie ). However, I was surprised that he made it past S&R. I really expected that he wouldn't make it. If that makes me a bad or disturbed person to some, then that's their opinion. I can't help that.

Also, I've never wished Nancy, Larrin, or Elizabeth harm or death either.

Cheers.

[nephtys59]

John/Teyla can come together if Teyla/Kanaan break up or, sadly, if Kanaan dies.

J/T had 4 years to come together before Kanaan and they didn't. So I don't see a reason why Teyla should break up with the father of her child and I don't want Kanaan to die.
Btw, I don't think anybody wished Teyla or Larrin or Nancy or any other woman was dead, just to get John and Elizabeth together.

[VampyreWraith]

And hows that going for ya



I would have preferred the real Carson aYE i WISH WE COULD HAVE KEPT jANET



*pats head* Good lass

I would have preferred real Carson as well, he should have never been killed off, especially in the manner that he was. And Janet should've stayed, the AU Janet was just like the real Janet, passionate about her work and helping people, but I guess thats why she had to go back.

[Linda06]

*swimming upstream on The Nile*

And hows that going for ya

i would've preferred an AU Carson to cloned Carson, I wasn't to fond of the whole cloning bit. AU Janet was great(I liked AU Martouf too lol). Part of me wished Janet was forced to stay for some reason.

I would have preferred the real Carson aYE i WISH WE COULD HAVE KEPT jANET

*speaks with monotone voice and glazed over eyes* Yes, Linda.

Cheers.

*pats head* Good lad

[Atlantis4Life]

I never told anyone that they "shouldn't watch sga because characters die," however since this was phrased as a question, I will answer it. John/Teyla can come together if Teyla/Kanaan break up or, sadly, if Kanaan dies (so that's how it's relevant to the thread as this could have happened during season 5 of the show, and some *might* be disappointed that it did not not happen this way - which is fine). So, it appears as though my intial statement might have been taken out of its context. I understand. It happens.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not going to bother with giving a response.

We can leave what is and isn't allowed on this thread up to the Moderators.

Cheers,

Atlantis.

[VampyreWraith]

I didn't like it when Grodin died, and especially when Carson Beckett died (he's my favorite character), but it happens on this type of show. That's a fact.

Mentioning that a character (any of them) could die is not a problem. And, I don't think you should try to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't say if it's relevant. Some people find talking at length about someone staying with someone that they don't believe that person loves to be a sensitive issue, and yet, I didn't have any objections to it until it appeared as though it was going to become the major and on-going discussion of this thread.

I think that you and I should stop this conversation as of now because you seem to keep wanting it to go further and I have no interest in that. I've tried to politely say this before.

I and the person that I was actually talking to have moved on from that particular topic, and I would appreciate it if you did too. That's my suggestion to you. You, of course, can disregard it if you like.

I prefer to avoid conflict when and where I can, and I hope that you do too. I think that tolerance of any and everyone's (sometimes very different) opinions is needed on all sides.

Now, on topic.

Cheers.

I have no further interest in continuing this conversation either but you keep replying, and I keep coming back in order to explain myself because you keep mis -reading my intent and taking things out of context in your replies. I have tried to end this multiple times.

How is telling someone they shouldn't watch sga because characters die relevant? Thats what I was commenting on in that post. That goes for telling anyone that, not just the poster. Death(character or otherwise) is a sensitive topic for some people(and i'm not just saying that poster) and I think you and others should respect that. Thats what I was trying to say in my last post; And as said in my other post the comment wasn't soley directed at you, but you seem to take offense and mis-read or read into wrong everything I say.

And anyway Kanaan doesn't have to die in order for John and Teyla to be together; so its not exactly relevant, so why do the same people keep mentioning it. I understand if you don't like the character or the fact that he was paired off with Teyla but It's not necessary to have him die or keep mentioning his death(him dieing has been mentioned multiple times on this thread by the same few people)
It might be funny for some people but others may not find it so. Thats what I'm saying. I'm sure if I came on here and and every once in a while in the middle of my posts made comments like "They should have killed Teyla off that last season, shes worthless, she did nothing" or "John is such a womanizing pig he deserves to die" or something along those lines.( I like John and Teyla so I don't think that.) I think some people would get upset, and I'd be asked not to do that. Just because a character isn't exactly popular doesn't mean that people don't like him/her; and its not like hes an evil character or anything. I (and I'm sure their are others somewhere out there) don't like characters dieing mentioned especially when its not the topic of the thread or even relevant to it.(Kanaan might be relevant, but not his death)I don't have an issue talking about Kanaan in general; I just don't like seeing references to him dieing just so John and Teyla can get together. I'm asking for tolerance too, so I don't see why it can't go both ways. Again, your not the only one who made comments regarding death so its not only directed at you. If you choose to take my post as a personal affront you can continue to do so; I'm not going to bother replying to you anymore. Offending you is not the intent of my post.

[Atlantis4Life]

I don't think you'll cross me, I have hypnotized you remember

*speaks with monotone voice and glazed over eyes* Yes, Linda.

Ah, i have something in common with JT shippers

Yep, although we mean it differently. Still, it's a start!

Cheers.

[Atlantis4Life]

I just read this now, and feel the need to respond.
Most people don't like when a character they like dies on a show. This goes for all the characters on the show. Some people were upset when they killed Peter Grodin, or Kate, or Michael or even one of the named wraith. Thats not even going into main character deaths. I don't think its very nice to tell anyone that perhaps they shouldn't watch sga if they don't like characters dieing. For some people, talking about how any character should/would have/is going to die is a sensitive topic, and should probably be left out of this thread in the future. This goes for everyone and not any one person in particular.

Now back on topic.

I didn't like it when Grodin died, and especially when Carson Beckett died (he's my favorite character), but it happens on this type of show. That's a fact.

Mentioning that a character (any of them) could die is not a problem. And, I don't think you should try to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't say if it's relevant. Some people find talking at length about someone staying with someone that they don't believe that person loves to be a sensitive issue, and yet, I didn't have any objections to it until it appeared as though it was going to become the major and on-going discussion of this thread.

I think that you and I should stop this conversation as of now because you seem to keep wanting it to go further and I have no interest in that. I've tried to politely say this before.

I and the person that I was actually talking to have moved on from that particular topic, and I would appreciate it if you did too. That's my suggestion to you. You, of course, can disregard it if you like.

I prefer to avoid conflict when and where I can, and I hope that you do too. I think that tolerance of any and everyone's (sometimes very different) opinions is needed on all sides.

Now, on topic.

Cheers.

[VampyreWraith]

Yeah I'm trying to forget Clone Carson Our Janet never got resurrected But we did get AU Janet And poor sweet Kate never got resurrected at all (sorry Little Lemming)

i would've preferred an AU Carson to cloned Carson, I wasn't to fond of the whole cloning bit. AU Janet was great(I liked AU Martouf too lol). Part of me wished Janet was forced to stay for some reason.

[Falcon Horus]

*swimming upstream on The Nile*

[Linda06]

lol even the doctors get ressurected sometimes in one way or another.

Yeah I'm trying to forget Clone Carson Our Janet never got resurrected But we did get AU Janet And poor sweet Kate never got resurrected at all (sorry Little Lemming)

[VampyreWraith]

lol even the doctors get ressurected sometimes in one way or another.

[Linda06]

She would be so proud. She thought us well.

*raises glass*

To Pegasus_SGA, derailer of threads!

*raises glass to Pegasus*

Me to

at almost everything

Yeah, our writters suffer from a lack of imagination. Again, read somewhere that they didn't know what to do with s2. That's why Shep became almost as a Kirk in s2

Er, who?

Yeah I see Little Lemming explained who She was the Queen of Off topicness

Thanks for explanation



For me it have been always out of the place. That's why i still can't watch some of eps from that (and not only that) season. The writers went too far with that Kirking thing

again OT

Oh you rebel you

I just read this now, and feel the need to respond.
Most people don't like when a character they like dies on a show. This goes for all the characters on the show. Some people were upset when they killed Peter Grodin, or Kate, or Michael or even one of the named wraith. Thats not even going into main character deaths. I don't think its very nice to tell anyone that perhaps they shouldn't watch sga if they don't like characters dieing. For some people, talking about how any character should/would have/is going to die is a sensitive topic, and should probably be left out of this thread in the future. This goes for everyone and not any one person in particular.

Now back on topic.

No body ever really dies on Stargate Unless they are a Doctor

Um......JT rocked? Yeah that's all I got. I'm all talked out And it's not easywhen I've got a bloodyt cat all over me