'Enemy At the Gate' (520) General Discussion

[Lythisrose]

No

Agreed.

[Brother Freyr]

No

Agreed.

Oh crap. They might be right. I was thinking only of the connection between "Vegas" and "McKay & Mrs Miller." I'll argue until I'm blue in the face that those two Alt-McKays are the same (or so similar as to make no important difference). As for Enemies at the Gate, I don't remember what role an alternate universe plays in the episode. Perhaps someone can remind me. (Or not. I'm about 2 weeks from seeing it again.) Sorry, Coco Pops.

[Coco Pops]

Also I like how the gun Ronan uses is the same one the Travelers use.

Was there a story on how he got that gun?

[PuddleJ]

Oh crap. They might be right. I was thinking only of the connection between "Vegas" and "McKay & Mrs Miller." I'll argue until I'm blue in the face that those two Alt-McKays are the same (or so similar as to make no important difference). As for Enemies at the Gate, I don't remember what role an alternate universe plays in the episode. Perhaps someone can remind me. (Or not. I'm about 2 weeks from seeing it again.) Sorry, Coco Pops.

As far as I remember, it's only in the sense that the wraith's signal from 'Vegas' makes it to the current reality.

[Brother Freyr]

I was thinking only of the connection between "Vegas" and "McKay & Mrs Miller." I'll argue until I'm blue in the face that those two Alt-McKays are the same (or so similar as to make no important difference)

And that's wrong, too. I'm re-watching McKay & Mrs Miller right now. That Alt-McKay's Sheppard is with his Atlantis expedition, whereas Vegas' Alt-Sheppard obviously isn't. However both Alt-McKays traveled through a bridge to an Atlantis that wasn't their own. Otherwise, Vegas' Alt-McKay wouldn't have told his Sheppard the story of meeting a Col. Sheppard. So, similar universes but not identical. (I had really thought I had a handle on this one. I've seen the series a few times, but boy does the memory fade, even after a mere 2 years.)

[thekillman]

However both Alt-McKays traveled through a bridge to an Atlantis that wasn't their own. Otherwise, Vegas' Alt-McKay wouldn't have told his Sheppard the story of meeting a Col. Sheppard.

This is zero evidence that Mckay&msmiller happened in the Vegas timeline. Just how many times did SG1 meet alternate SG1's through means other than that bridge?

Lastly, Daedalus variations included an alternate team, and while we met them when dead, the rules of the Multiverse would mean that an infinite amount of Daedalus Variations happened, including one where the Vegas Mckay could've met a live alternate Sheppard.

Or they still have the quantum mirror, or this mckay did meet another Sheppard in Ripple Effect, etc etc etc.


Again, the Multiverse forces an infinite amount of infinite variations. Therefore, everything that can happen, will happen and has infact happened. There's an infinite amount of copies of Earth that are exactly the same except some atom somewhere had a slightly different quantum state.

[Brother Freyr]

This is zero evidence that Mckay&msmiller happened in the Vegas timeline.

Re-read my post. I agreed with you. Pointed out differences and similarity. Vegas' Alt-McKay met some other universe's Atlantis team, not our team.

[Manche]

There were more things which I did not like but this was the biggest: When Ronon died, really Sheppard risked his own life and the lives of others as well to return for his dead body? He could not absolutely know that the Wraiths will revive him. I know the motto "We dont leave our people behind." but i remember many times when the dead comrades were left behing during the action. This is quite extreme, is not it?

[Xaeden]

What makes you think they went back for him? It looked to me as though they were simply backtracking and stumbled upon him in the process. Ronon was in a hallway they had to go through on their way to the gate because he died in a hallway they passed through on their way from the gate.

[Coco Pops]

Was that girl the actual sister of the actor that plays Rodney in Mrs Miller?

[Falcon Horus]

Was that girl the actual sister of the actor that plays Rodney in Mrs Miller?

Yup, Kate Hewlett is the real life younger sister of David Hewlett.

They are hilarious on twitter.

[Coco Pops]

Yup, Kate Hewlett is the real life younger sister of David Hewlett.

They are hilarious on twitter.

I did wonder that seeing them together. They are cute together how they interact.

[Falcon Horus]

I did wonder that seeing them together. They are cute together how they interact.

I believe TPTW originally gave Rodney a brother, after which he casually mentioned that he had a younger sister who was also into acting, and they changed it to Rodney having a sister instead. I think David once mentioned this in an interview posted right here on Gateworld.

[Xaeden]

You are quite correct, Falcon Horus:

”When we did ‘Hot Zone,’ where [McKay] confesses that he has a sister, it had originally been written as a brother,” David Hewlett revealed to GateWorld. “And I said, ‘Look, just on the off chance, I’ve got a lot of sisters and one of them happens to be an actress. I’m not saying you have to cast her, but just on the off chance, can I say ‘sister?” And they said, ‘Oh, that’s a good idea. That’s fine.'”

https://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/...mckays-sister/

[Falcon Horus]

Yay for my long-term memory.

My short-term on the other hand...