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Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by s09119 View PostHardly; the stargate was more-than-likely destroyed by the massive planetary explosion seconds after Young came through. With no gate to connect to, the wormhole simply fizzled out.
I simply can not ignore that,sir.
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Originally posted by jelgate View PostNot at all. A good or bad plot is very subjective. But as far as storytelling goes the defintion of what makes a plot is very concrete with it containing exposition (the problem), rising action, climax (turning point), falling action, and resolution (solution). Obviously not all these have been met but the fact some have means its has a plot just not a complete one
The the mythos must be central element of the story. It was not out of two Parts. This is essential to the plot.
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostThat is a probable possibility, Colonel, only the gate wouldn't be destroyed instantly. There would be more than enough time for the gate to be insulated by debris of the installation for a significant part of the blast and debris to enter the wormhole and none did.
I simply can not ignore that,sir.
Besides, Rush was using the fear of a blast translating through the gate to Earth as a pretext to allow himself to dial the 9th chevron address; he may well have exaggerated the danger to satiate his own curiosity, after all, and may have known that the explosion would have vaporized the portal instantly.Click the banner or episode links to visit the virtual continuations of Stargate!Previous Episode: 11x03 "Shore Leave" | Previous Episode: 6x04 "Nightfall" | Now Airing: 3x06 "Eldest"The Continuing Stargate Wiki | Stargate: Avalon l The New "Ark of Truth" | Stargate: Universe Reviews | Banner designs by Alx
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Originally posted by Pandora's_Box View PostNo, it's actually not. The definition of plot is unchanging. What is variable are the strengths/weaknesses, likeability, and other such relative and subjective arguments.
A plot can be good or bad depending on who's judging it. It can be strong or weak, shaky or solid.
But the definition of 'plot' is unchanging.
And that's your prerogative, but whether or not you thought the plot was good doesn't negate nor confirm the existence of said plot.
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostSir, According to my research...
The the mythos must be central element of the story. It was not out of two Parts. This is essential to the plot.Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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Originally posted by s09119 View PostWe're talking about an explosion powerful enough to obliterate a planet. We've seen nuclear blasts that simple vaporize anything in their way, and that would only be 1/10000000000000000000000000000th of the power in the blast that destroyed the world the Icarus Base was situated on. The odds of a few layers of concrete being able to insulate the stargate are practically zero; the much more likely outcome is that the gate in question was simply destroyed instantly.
Besides, Rush was using the fear of a blast translating through the gate to Earth as a pretext to allow himself to dial the 9th chevron address; he may well have exaggerated the danger to satiate his own curiosity, after all, and may have known that the explosion would have vaporized the portal instantly.
The gate has proven resilient in the face of explosions and blast before even surviving the destruction of a planet previous to now circle a black hole.
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostI can't accept that number with out proof, sir.
The gate has proven resilient in the face of explosions and blast before even surviving the destruction of a planet previous to now circle a black hole.Click the banner or episode links to visit the virtual continuations of Stargate!Previous Episode: 11x03 "Shore Leave" | Previous Episode: 6x04 "Nightfall" | Now Airing: 3x06 "Eldest"The Continuing Stargate Wiki | Stargate: Avalon l The New "Ark of Truth" | Stargate: Universe Reviews | Banner designs by Alx
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostUnfortunately, sir I have not seen consistent agreement on what defines a plot from multiple sources. If you have any they would be appreciated.
That's it. Everything else has to do with narrative, style, theme, character, etc. But the 'plot' is the basic course of action of a story.
And I'm going to have to ask you to not call me 'sir' if only because I'm not male and it weirds me out. Please and thank you.sigpic
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostYou are entitled to your opinion, Lieutenant. Will there be anything further?
Now whether or not the plot was good you can argue. But you can't argue that there wasn't a plot, because if you're right. Then what did I just watch?
I watched a plot unfold, I watched a progression of events that formed into a story, that's a plot. There's no higher understanding of it. A plot is the simplest concept there is. If you have an A, and a B, and you go from one to another, then you have a plot.These are the wrong people... in the wrong place.
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Originally posted by s09119 View Post...you mean the one in "The Pegasus Project"? That one was, without a doubt, dropped off by the good guys for the use of that event, since the gate would have been sucked into the singularity in "Beachhead" along with the rest of Kalana.
I believe that is the name. The planet was destroyed by the Black Hole.
Originally posted by Pandora's_Box View PostIt's pretty simple; at it's most basic, a plot is a sequence of related events arranged in a logical manner.
That's it. Everything else has to do with narrative, style, theme, character, etc. But the 'plot' is the basic course of action of a story.
And I'm going to have to ask you to not call me 'sir' if only because I'm not male and it weirds me out. Please and thank you.
Colonel would you would say that the destruction of Icarus base was the Rise in Action or the Climax?
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostWell sir, they got the idea from the SG-1 episode "A matter of Time"
I believe that is the name. The planet was destroyed by the Black Hole.Click the banner or episode links to visit the virtual continuations of Stargate!Previous Episode: 11x03 "Shore Leave" | Previous Episode: 6x04 "Nightfall" | Now Airing: 3x06 "Eldest"The Continuing Stargate Wiki | Stargate: Avalon l The New "Ark of Truth" | Stargate: Universe Reviews | Banner designs by Alx
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Originally posted by Saquist View PostWell sir, they got the idea from the SG-1 episode "A matter of Time"
I believe that is the name. The planet was destroyed by the Black Hole.
My apologies ma'am.
Colonel would you would say that the destruction of Icarus base was the Rise in Action or the Climax?Originally posted by aretood2Jelgate is right
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