Originally posted by TheVoidDragon
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And the movie isn't canon in the SG-1/Atlantis/Universe canon. It's called the SG-1/Atlantis/Universe canon for a reason. The continuity of the movie is canon, the events of the movie have happened in the canon universe, though with some minor differences. But overall the movie has been retconned so much that it is no longer canon within the television franchise.
If MGM says it's canon, doesn't actually mean it is canon. They said the novels and comics were canon, yet they contain so many contradictions and errors, in addition to the comics having a completely different continuity post-Atlantis-Season-5. The RPG books "are" also canon, yet everything released after the books were contradicting the books, or actually the other way around since the shows take precedence.
The three main TV shows always take precedence. If there is anything that contradicts the shows, it is not canon. It doesn't mean the whole thing would be non-canon. There are elements of the movie, RPG books, and Origins that do fit within the canon and continuity, but not everything.
For the most part, canonicity is also different for everyone, it is not just what the PTB say. I consider Origins to be non-canon, not just because of the contradictions but also because of all the illogical things that happened: Nazis in Egypt, everyone going through the gate, Aset/Isis, Ra and his mind-control/brainwashing ability, Catherine breaking the PoO on the cartouche, and most importantly Aset wiping everyone's memories and coercing Catherine to form a team to defeat Ra. But the worst of all that I think is unforgivable, mainly for the supposed reason behind it, is the stargate itself.
If this persists, then at some point new material will override (aka retcon) previous material, which by definition means the older material is no longer canon. This effectively turns the new material into a reboot. That is also why we are so vocal about this, because if everyone likes Origins then MGM can go ahead and just continue along the same route with eventually nothing remaining of the original franchise. If no-one, including MGM, wants a reboot, then they need to stick to canon 100% without too much creative license to retcon certain things.
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