Originally posted by jmoz
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Good thing that you are not supporting that since there is no such thing as pure socialism. Socialism itself is a half ******* hybrid. The only way that big buisness can limit the freedoms of anyone else is through the power of Government as we have seen countless times in the recent years.
So in Scandanavia they chose which buisnesses they support, and which they do not, that is not being an umpire that is being an active participant. And that limits freedoms. And they control health care and education? The two most important aspects of ones life to control. Without them and without freedom for those choices freedom in anything else becomes meaningless.
No that is not what Government is for. Government is to protect someones life, liberty, and property. And their ability to pursue happiness. There is no proper justification for Government to both be the cop, and an actual player on the field. And people are not inherently anything. And the idea of Socialism that I have heard advocated on GW is that people there is no way that people can e charitable enough to meet the needs of all people, one that is not the point of charity, but on the other hand if there is no way there is not enough wealth in the country to provide for everyone and their brother through charity. Then how the heck can their be enough money in this country and enough wealth to help everyone and their brother even if you taxed them one hundred percent? Especially considering Governments are very ineficient, very bad with their money, and very poor at distribution. probably why we are in such a deep debt. And oh yes before I forget. You know what the Government is made up of? PEOPLE. The same ignorant, greedy, stupid, selfish people that you just railed against and you expect them to act like angels because they are in Government?
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