Star Trek Beyond : News/Speculation/Spoilers

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Bleh.. Don't really care as long as his 'gayness' isn't in your face.

Has it been so far? Also.. New Spock is gay in real life.

It's worth pointing out that George Takei is gay. He had to keep it secret for most of his life or he wouldn't have been able to act. It was illegal for him to marry a white person. It was illegal for him to marry a man.

Star Trek was founded on the idea of a better future, where the prejudices of today no longer exist.

Your disgust proves there is still a long way to go. Sulu being gay in this film is presented just like any other normal healthy relationship. Not 'in your face' like Spock/Uhura was in the first film. Or Kirk in bed with a woman in the first film, two in the second. But that's OK, right? Because they're straight....

[jelgate]

Has it been so far? Also.. New Spock is gay in real life.

It's worth pointing out that George Takei is gay. He had to keep it secret for most of his life or he wouldn't have been able to act. It was illegal for him to marry a white person. It was illegal for him to marry a man.

Star Trek was founded on the idea of a better future, where the prejudices of today no longer exist.

Your disgust proves there is still a long way to go. Sulu being gay in this film is presented just like any other normal healthy relationship. Not 'in your face' like Spock/Uhura was in the first film. Or Kirk in bed with a woman in the first film, two in the second. But that's OK, right? Because they're straight....

Or Kirk in every episode of TOS. Its quite obvious making Sulu gay is a nod to George Takai's homosexuality. Besides that I really don't care.

[Annoyed]

My question is are they breaking canon? I seem to recall Sulu having interests in various ladies in TOS.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

My question is are they breaking canon? I seem to recall Sulu having interests in various ladies in TOS.

Alternate timeline. Canon doesn't necessarily apply.. Look at Spock/Uhura.. Pike was alive in the original series..

And Sulu still has a daughter, so.. It hasn't been changed that much.

[Annoyed]

Valid theory.
And I forgot all about Sulu's daughter.

Damned Jar-Jarverse.

[DigiFluid]

And in a plot twist I really did not see coming: apparently, George Takei isn't happy about it.

[garhkal]

Has it been so far? Also.. New Spock is gay in real life.

I never would have realized the actor playing the new spock was gay till you mentiond it..

Star Trek was founded on the idea of a better future, where the prejudices of today no longer exist.

It was also founded somewhat on a socialist like utopia, where no one needs to work, no one gets paid, etc..

Your disgust proves there is still a long way to go. Sulu being gay in this film is presented just like any other normal healthy relationship. Not 'in your face' like Spock/Uhura was in the first film. Or Kirk in bed with a woman in the first film, two in the second. But that's OK, right? Because they're straight....

Disgust? I am not discusted, i just don't what someone's lifestyle tossed in my face.

As to the whole kirk angle, THAT's part OF who his character is.. A womanizer.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

I just don't what someone's lifestyle tossed in my face.

As to the whole kirk angle, THAT's part OF who his character is.. A womanizer.

Holy double standards, Batman!

[Annoyed]

It was also founded somewhat on a socialist like utopia, where no one needs to work, no one gets paid, etc..

TNG era and later, yes. That's true. That is clear from Picard's explanation of the federation to Lily in First Contact.

But TOS era was still a capitalist society, where people earned their own livings and had to compete. Thus, we had folks like Cyrano Jones, the private trader who dealt in tribbles, etc., Harry Mud, the miners who Mudd provided "wives" for and so forth.

[DigiFluid]

Holy double standards, Batman!

Holy crap.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

I never would have realized the actor playing the new spock was gay till you mentiond it..

But that's the point I'm trying to make.. You're against gay Sulu because you don't want to see the "gay lifestyle" (whatever that means) being all "in your face"..

And yet you can't spot an actual real life gay person when he's right in front of you..

So, what are you really afraid of?

[TheRandomOne]

I say who cares it depends on how they do it as long as they dont beat us over the head with it & its a one time mention it wont annoy me one bit. But if the movie keeps reminding us about it throughout it wont bother me it all depends on how its done

[DigiFluid]

Beat who over the head with what?!

[Annoyed]

I think there's been only one instance of gay characters on-screen that ever really irritated me.

Almost a decade ago, Isaiah Washington, currently playing "Jaha" on "The 100" was playing a doctor on "Grey's Anatomy".
Isiah made some comments at an awards show of some sort that the LGBT community found offensive, and the LGBT folks deluged ABC with protests and the like.
ABC canned him from his role in the show. I have no problem with that. You shoot your mouth off in a public auditorium, and you're gonna pay the price.

What bothers me is that for the next 3-4 years, they might have just renamed the show "Gay's Anatomy". The show focused on gay relationships in the show, primarily between Torres and the blonde baby doctor who lost a leg in the airliner crash (I forget her name) to the exclusion of almost everything else about the show. I presume that this was intended by ABC and the writers as a mea culpa to the LGBT folks.
I don't care about if the relationship was gay or not. I just got so damned tired of the constant focusing upon that relationship. Half the time you would tune in and almost immediately "Oh, not these two again", Click.

[Pharaoh Hamenthotep]

Beat who over the head with what?!

Probably all the Spock/Uhura scenes. How many times did they have to show their relationship in the first two films? They couldn't have made it any more obvious. It was practically the main storyline of the first film.