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  • Rose "Snapjinx" McKnight
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    Originally posted by starg8fans View Post
    P.S. I just thought of something else. Did anybody else think that War's ring looked rather similar to the one Dean is wearing? What if his ring actually belongs to one of the Apocalyptic Riders, and they'll come after it? I know this is far out, I mean what are the chances that both the necklace and the ring are supernatural trinkets. Plus War would probably have said something about it - unless he was about to when the boys grabbed him and chopped off his fingers.
    That'd be pretty freakin' sweet. Dean would be loaded down with all manner of supernatural paraphenalia and not even know it.

    So, I really like War and I'm excited to see the other three horseman. Because he's not snarkily bad like the demons (God knows that got friggin' annoying after, oh, season two). He genuinely just has fun wreaking havoc. It's what he was born to do and he's waited millennia to do it and now he's finally allowed to. Great villain.

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  • starg8fans
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    Originally posted by iolanda View Post
    "You know, one night I was really, really drunk and woke up with tattooing scars all over my back, but it was just the scars and no ink. My buddies laughed their asses off and said it was invisible ink. Looks like it's not so invisible to X-Rays."
    Good one, Iolanda!

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  • iolanda
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    Originally posted by starg8fans View Post
    Especially since there are no scars on Dean's chest that would have explained how it was done... But then, Dean can talk his way out of most situations, I'm sure he spun some yarn that had the doctors back off.
    "You know, one night I was really, really drunk and woke up with tattooing scars all over my back, but it was just the scars and no ink. My buddies laughed their asses off and said it was invisible ink. Looks like it's not so invisible to X-Rays."

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  • starg8fans
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    P.S. I just thought of something else. Did anybody else think that War's ring looked rather similar to the one Dean is wearing? What if his ring actually belongs to one of the Apocalyptic Riders, and they'll come after it? I know this is far out, I mean what are the chances that both the necklace and the ring are supernatural trinkets. Plus War would probably have said something about it - unless he was about to when the boys grabbed him and chopped off his fingers.

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  • starg8fans
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    Originally posted by Crichiel View Post
    Personally, I was surprised that after seeing that the doctor's wouldn't have strapped Dean down and kept him locked up (calling the police, social services, and the National Enquirer) until they figured out how and why it had been done!!
    Especially since there are no scars on Dean's chest that would have explained how it was done... But then, Dean can talk his way out of most situations, I'm sure he spun some yarn that had the doctors back off.

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  • Crichiel
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    Originally posted by flameling View Post
    Thanks starg8fans, I didn't get a good look at it before. I kind of feel sorry for the doctors assigned to anything like THAT.
    Personally, I was surprised that after seeing that the doctor's wouldn't have strapped Dean down and kept him locked up (calling the police, social services, and the National Enquirer) until they figured out how and why it had been done!!

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  • flameling
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    Thanks starg8fans, I didn't get a good look at it before. I kind of feel sorry for the doctors assigned to anything like THAT.

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  • starg8fans
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    Originally posted by flameling View Post
    Does anyone have a picture of the sigil? I want to see it again, just out of curiousity.
    Here you go, it's the clearest shot I could get.

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  • flameling
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    Does anyone have a picture of the sigil? I want to see it again, just out of curiousity.

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  • Crichiel
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    Like I didn't already write enough , but I just wanted to add my two cents on comments made about Castiel and Dean (I was going to say this earlier, but my post was already too long).

    I love the story arc of splitting the brothers up. Hate that it happened because it is so sad, but it makes for compelling television. BUT I too have concerns about the Cas/Dean show. It was the first thing that I thought of when they said they were making Misha a regular. I really loved the addition of Castiel and ADORE Misha, but I am leery of Castiel becoming the third Winchester, riding around with them week to week.

    However, I too am willing to reserve judgement until I see what the writers actually do. I was VERY pleased with Castiel's role in Good God, Y'all. THAT is exactly how I would like him used. Like Bobby: an active presence, showing up for a purpose, used to showcase Sam and Dean's character.

    So, so far so good with Castiel. And I will also wait until AFTER Sam and Dean get back together before I judge, because with them separated, that isn't going to be a true representation of how Castiel fits into their relationship. That make sense?

    Oh, and this is also the first season that I have watched the show live as well. I watched seasons 1-3 in two weeks, and watched season 4 in reruns this summer. I am really enjoying it so far, because when I first got addicted, I read up everything I could about the show...and hence spoiled every major plotline before I saw it (i.e. I knew Dean was going to Hell before I even started to watch season 3). It is really cool NOT knowing where everything is headed. We'll see if I feel the same way during the long holiday hiatus shows take from November-February. That is going to be the true test of my willpower to avoid spoilers!!

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  • Madwelshboy
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    Great Episode!

    -Ellen, Jo & Rufus - great to see past characters back, hope they'll appear again.
    -Deans X-Ray - Cool
    -Amulet Twist!
    -Four Hourseman, well only just War, but heres hoping for the other 3!

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  • starg8fans
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    Originally posted by SheppAddictedFangirl View Post
    Indeed, that gotta be tough. And that´s probably why he wasn´t keen on letting "Michael" nab him, even though he´s a good guy. Well, I guess he is?
    Actually, that part surprised me a bit. Dean was always prepared at the drop of a hat to sacrifice himself for others. Now he's come round. I think the whole trust issue plays a major part here. He doesn't trust Sam anymore, he certainly doesn't trust Zach, and he just saw Bobby possessed... He must feel he's totally on his own, so he's not doing anybody any favors anymore. Well, there's Cas of course, but he's not very forthcoming either.

    Originally posted by LoneStar1836 View Post
    Interesting. I haven't been reading spoilers as of late.
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    Sooner rather than later is good. I couldn't see it going on for too long...as them together is the heart of the show...but after seeing the preview for next week's ep, it seemed kind of ominous in regard to where Sam was headed...like oh great another woman telling Sam what he wants to hear....

    As to that spoiler, I totally distrust Zach and his motivations. So he could just be screwing with Dean as usual.


    Not really as I saw LR before I ever watched Season 2 or 3. I'm too spoiled by being able to watch the first 3 seasons on dvd within the span of two months. Sucked having to wade through repeats in order to see S4.
    This is the first season I'm watching live as well. The wait between eps is terrible. But still better than the summer...

    Agreed. He still has that problem weighing him down just like any recovering addict would, but at least he no longer has Ruby whispering in his ear, and he isn't driven by revenge any longer, imo.

    His direction this season will be more of his own choosing, or that's how I see it. Season one was all about finding John and dealing with his anger towards his father as well as getting revenge for Jessica and dealing with his guilt about her death. Season two was still about getting revenge...even more so now that John was dead. Three was all about saving Dean as his driving motivation. Season 4 turned up the revenge factor to eleven. I see that blinding factor as finally having been removed. Granted he still has a lot of stuff to work through, but he has more freedom of choice now to work himself out of that dark hole he helped dig. So if he continues to slide, not sure I can feel as sympathetic towards him...it could certainly be interesting to watch though. But I'll have to wait and see where the season takes us.

    He may still have demon blood in him, but it's not controlling him, and it never did, imo. It was the feeling of power that corrupted the other kids as well as Sam. So to put it simply I want free will to ultimately win out over fate, but distinguishing between the two is so damn difficult on this show. The choices they make seem so pointless as they end up leading them to the same predetermined ending. It's like what the hell, why bother trying....which I'd say the characters have to struggle with now more than ever.
    Good point. He's tried one way and look where it lead him, so let's see what way he chooses next time. I like that they brought up the power issue, that it's the headrush of being stronger than other people that pushed Sam's buttons. I figure it's a result of growing up with two such commanding figures as his father and his older brother. He was the small and weakest one for so long, he's just dying to turn the page. First he did it on an intellectual level, but he had to give that up, now he'd found another way. You remember in Sex and Violence how he boated to Dean that he was stronger, smarter and the better hunter? That's where he wanted to be.

    And yes, the writers are doing a great job of addressing this issue of free will vs. fate. The latter seems to be winning, but the story is not over yet. Again, Dean's refusal to be an 'Angel condom' is another attempt at having the boys determine their own destiny, let's see if he'll manage it this time.

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  • LoneStar1836
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    Originally posted by starg8fans View Post
    Kripke said healing the rift between the brothers would be one of the main arcs of the story, so I'm positive that's where we will be heading, and probably sooner rather than later. I think episode 4 will bring them a big step further, when
    Spoiler:
    Dean tries to break with Sam, and Zachariah takes him 4 years into the future, showing him that
    Spoiler:
    Sam will go totally evil as a result
    Interesting. I haven't been reading spoilers as of late.
    Spoiler:
    Sooner rather than later is good. I couldn't see it going on for too long...as them together is the heart of the show...but after seeing the preview for next week's ep, it seemed kind of ominous in regard to where Sam was headed...like oh great another woman telling Sam what he wants to hear....

    As to that spoiler, I totally distrust Zach and his motivations. So he could just be screwing with Dean as usual.


    Remember how worried the fans were after the S3 finale, that they waste a good portion of the season trying to bring Dean back from hell? And it happened in the first minute of S4. I have total faith in Kripke to do the right thing. Also, Sam will be featured quite prominently in the next ep, although Dean's gonna be with Cas, so I wouldn't worry about him being relegated to a secondary character. But I agree, I prefer them together too.
    Not really as I saw LR before I ever watched Season 2 or 3. I'm too spoiled by being able to watch the first 3 seasons on dvd within the span of two months. Sucked having to wade through repeats in order to see S4.

    Originally posted by P-90_177 View Post
    See I don't think he's clear headed at all. I mean yeah he's better off when he was having a shot of demon blood everyday but rght now he's craving it still. I mean we saw him in the shop after he killed those two boys and if it wasn't for dean bursting in he probably would have drank some of the blood.......course if he did there's a chance that they would have realised they weren't demons a lot sooner and the whole episode would have wrapped up alot quicker. Granted if he does turn evil that will be his choice, but then again he does still have demon blood in him which affects his mind, and as we've seen with other psychic kids, the more they use their powers then the more warped they become, and sams been in such a dark place for 2 whole seasons now that it's gonna be hard for him to crawl out. Thing is of course that sam has always tried to do what is right, it's just that no matter what he does then he continues to slip. Even now I don't see it as his fault, it's just still the wheels of Azazals plan in motion.
    Agreed. He still has that problem weighing him down just like any recovering addict would, but at least he no longer has Ruby whispering in his ear, and he isn't driven by revenge any longer, imo.

    His direction this season will be more of his own choosing, or that's how I see it. Season one was all about finding John and dealing with his anger towards his father as well as getting revenge for Jessica and dealing with his guilt about her death. Season two was still about getting revenge...even more so now that John was dead. Three was all about saving Dean as his driving motivation. Season 4 turned up the revenge factor to eleven. I see that blinding factor as finally having been removed. Granted he still has a lot of stuff to work through, but he has more freedom of choice now to work himself out of that dark hole he helped dig. So if he continues to slide, not sure I can feel as sympathetic towards him...it could certainly be interesting to watch though. But I'll have to wait and see where the season takes us.

    He may still have demon blood in him, but it's not controlling him, and it never did, imo. It was the feeling of power that corrupted the other kids as well as Sam. So to put it simply I want free will to ultimately win out over fate, but distinguishing between the two is so damn difficult on this show. The choices they make seem so pointless as they end up leading them to the same predetermined ending. It's like what the hell, why bother trying....which I'd say the characters have to struggle with now more than ever.

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  • SheppAddictedFangirl
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    Originally posted by starg8fans View Post
    But does he? Ruby said in Lucifer Rising that he 'blew his whole payload on the boss'. I thought that meant he'd burnt up all the demon blood in him. Which might explain his body temp of 150?...

    Glad to see you found a way to watch this too, SAF!

    I just like to see Dean's and Cas' relationship continue the way it was. I know that they've become allies and a lot closer, but from their whole disposition they are so different it's quite clear they'll always rub each other the wrong way. And let's face it, since The Rapture we know what an ordeal it is for the vessel to 'house' an angel, and now that Dean has met the guy I'm sure he's rather uncomfortable with Cas 'possessing' him - consent or not. Especially in this case, where the consent was only given to save his daughter from this fate. So yes, Cas gave up everything, but so did Jimmy.
    Indeed, that gotta be tough. And that´s probably why he wasn´t keen on letting "Michael" nab him, even though he´s a good guy. Well, I guess he is?

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  • starg8fans
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    Originally posted by P-90_177 View Post
    See I don't think he's clear headed at all. I mean yeah he's better off when he was having a shot of demon blood everyday but rght now he's craving it still. I mean we saw him in the shop after he killed those two boys and if it wasn't for dean bursting in he probably would have drank some of the blood.......course if he did there's a chance that they would have realised they weren't demons a lot sooner and the whole episode would have wrapped up alot quicker. Granted if he does turn evil that will be his choice, but then again he does still have demon blood in him which affects his mind, and as we've seen with other psychic kids, the more they use their powers then the more warped they become, and sams been in such a dark place for 2 whole seasons now that it's gonna be hard for him to crawl out. Thing is of course that sam has always tried to do what is right, it's just that no matter what he does then he continues to slip. Even now I don't see it as his fault, it's just still the wheels of Azazals plan in motion.
    But does he? Ruby said in Lucifer Rising that he 'blew his whole payload on the boss'. I thought that meant he'd burnt up all the demon blood in him. Which might explain his body temp of 150?...

    Originally posted by SheppAddictedFangirl View Post
    5.02 Wow, what an ep!

    Loved it when Bobby yelled at Cas to get his ass over and heal him already The look of utter disbelief and the brothers barely keeping from cracking up was priceless!! LOL

    I sure hope he´s not stuck like that

    Seriously though, was kinda annoyed with Dean for giving Cas the mouthoff, especially since he and his brother were reponsible for the mess the world´s in right now (really? was kinda messed up before, too ) but when Cas gave him the "keep your opinions to yourself" speech (and don´t get me wrong, I love Dean) but when Cas did that, he took the words right out of my mouth!
    Not sure what to make of the whole "GOD" concept

    <snipped for length>

    the end.. well, I hate it when they break up teams, and the brothers are a team to me, even though they both have a history in hunting without the other, but I guess some ramifications were to be expected. I´m curious how this will continue....
    Glad to see you found a way to watch this too, SAF!

    I just like to see Dean's and Cas' relationship continue the way it was. I know that they've become allies and a lot closer, but from their whole disposition they are so different it's quite clear they'll always rub each other the wrong way. And let's face it, since The Rapture we know what an ordeal it is for the vessel to 'house' an angel, and now that Dean has met the guy I'm sure he's rather uncomfortable with Cas 'possessing' him - consent or not. Especially in this case, where the consent was only given to save his daughter from this fate. So yes, Cas gave up everything, but so did Jimmy.

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