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Originally posted by the Fifth RaceAs far as the time travel question goes, I'm not convinced that the Orb of time works the way we have seen other time travel. I don't believe that Prophets would send you anywhere unless they knew what your actions would be before hand, they would not send anyone that would alter the time line, or they would stop anyone from accidently changing it.
Originally posted by the Fifth RaceDuKat is as arrogant and obsessed with self image in the past as he is currently in the DS9 time-line. He tries to convince everyone around him (especially the Bajorans) that he is all for there well-fare and his actions prove that to be the case , anotherwords you could see his mental illness even at his younger age.
Originally posted by the Fifth RaceThis is an interesting piece of info about this episode from Ira Steven Behr......This episode was originally going to feature a past affair between Dukat and Major Kira, but Nana Visitor argued with Ira Steven Behr against it. When the script came out, Ira happily informed Nana that the affair wasn't in the script, and that she never had an affair with Dukat, and smiled, "but your mother did...." LOL, even Nana Visitor couldn't stomach the possibility of Kira being romantically involved with DuKat.
I enjoyed this episode, I just finished rewatching it last night and like brother Fifth, I found it to be better than I remembered. I give it 7.8 stars.
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Originally posted by StarbaseI love the DuKat character, Marc Alaimo plays that character perfectly. DuKat is a case study in dellusional "meglomania". Just when you think they guy has a decent bone in his body and he is sane, he blows up and shows his true colors. He doesn't care for Bajorans or even pity them, he uses them as a means to an end to advance his own agenda while putting himself on some kind of holy throne, brilliant portrayal.
I enjoyed this episode, I just finished rewatching it last night and like brother Fifth, I found it to be better than I remembered. I give it 7.8 stars.
Alaimo did a wonderful job as Dukat. I give HIM 10 stars.
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Originally posted by HirogenGaterMarc Alaimo seems like a nice guy, I watched one of the extra features on the DVD set of DS9 (I don't remember which season) and he seemed very grateful to be on Star Trek.
Alaimo did a wonderful job as Dukat. I give HIM 10 stars.
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^Yes the guy you love to hate, all the way to the very end of the show in season 7 between sisko and dukat in the fire-caves.......and oh yes Ki Winn got here comeuppance in the end and entertained the fans with an entertaining death of being burned to death in flames!!! LOL!!For all the pollution woes on Earth, will the Human race end up taking those problems into space in the future?
We can all call our ships Sports Utility Ships to curtail the carbon emissions and hypersleep at night
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Originally posted by StarbaseI agree brother Hirogen, even though I truly despise the DuKat character, I admire the portrayal and Alaimo's acting ability. He got into the character so damn well, you do truly end up hating DuKat, which is testimony to his acting prowess.sigpic
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^You know somebody is a great villian when you feel compelled to join the riteous rebellion that the villan despises just to kill or inflict pain on the villan if the scenario was real LOL
jokeFor all the pollution woes on Earth, will the Human race end up taking those problems into space in the future?
We can all call our ships Sports Utility Ships to curtail the carbon emissions and hypersleep at night
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Originally posted by Darkstar^Yes the guy you love to hate, all the way to the very end of the show in season 7 between sisko and dukat in the fire-caves.......and oh yes Ki Winn got here comeuppance in the end and entertained the fans with an entertaining death of being burned to death in flames!!! LOL!!
Originally posted by DescentHe did do a fantastic job. You know someone's a great villian when you end up hating them so much.
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Originally posted by StarbaseI loved it when Kai Winn put the blinded DuKat on the streets of Bajor to beg for food and shelter, then later poisons and sacrifices him to the pai-Wraiths, the Kai had quite an evil streak herself. It was great seeing her get it in the end as well.
Amen brother Descent!, I rank DuKat and Scorpius from Farscape as my two favorite villains that you just loved to hate. They were both so well acted and portrayed.
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There are differences between Dukat and Scorpy.
Scorpius - A bad guy doing bad things but with the right intentions
Dukat - A bad guy doing bad things for the wrong intentions
Dukat wanted to be pitied for his crimes. Sad thing is, no one pitied him. Except for maybe Ziyal but she paid for that.sigpic
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Originally posted by DescentThere are differences between Dukat and Scorpy.
Scorpius - A bad guy doing bad things but with the right intentions
Dukat - A bad guy doing bad things for the wrong intentions
Dukat wanted to be pitied for his crimes. Sad thing is, no one pitied him. Except for maybe Ziyal but she paid for that.
I think Dukat truly loved Ziyal, I will never forget the end of Sacrifice of Angels.....
I felt sorry for him there.
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Spoiler:the scene where she dies in Dukat's arms...
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Originally posted by DescentThere are differences between Dukat and Scorpy.
Scorpius - A bad guy doing bad things but with the right intentions
Originally posted by DescentDukat - A bad guy doing bad things for the wrong intentions
Originally posted by DescentDukat wanted to be pitied for his crimes. Sad thing is, no one pitied him. Except for maybe Ziyal but she paid for that.
One thing is for sure, you would be hard pressed to find two more interesting and intriguing characters than Scorpius and DuKat. I bet the would have got along great with each other, after-all Cardassians and Scarrans are both reptilians.
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Originally posted by HirogenGaterI think Dukat truly loved Ziyal, I will never forget the end of Sacrifice of Angels.....
I felt sorry for him there.
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Spoiler:the scene where she dies in Dukat's arms...
I also felt for DuKat when Damar killed Ziyal, poor Ziyal and Dukat said that they love each other, then bam, Damar executes her, it was a very emotional epiosde that bummed me out.
Originally posted by Darkstar^It's a wonder how he ever forgave Damar for the death of his daughter.
DuKat did forgive Ziyal when he held her in his arms as she died, then a distraught Dukat stayed behind as Damar pleaded with him to come as they were evacuating DS9. DuKat did later say .... "I do not blame Damar for Ziyal's death, he did what he had to do. I blame myself". Brilliant and riveting stuff!.
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Originally posted by StarbaseThat's debatable, IMO Scorpius had bad intentions from the out-set. He wanted to obtain the worm-hole weapon for himself, not the Scarrans, so he could call the shots and have the power to do as he wishes. It has been awhile since I last watched Farscape, but I don't remember any good intentions Scorpius had till the very end of Peace Keeper Wars when the weapon was already unleased and he saw the destruction it was capable of.
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