Once Upon A Time General Discussion/News/Speculation (spoilers possible)

[Princess Awinita]

OK, so, I finished Season 4 in a full watch through on DVD last night, these are my thoughts, I'll put them in spoiler tags in the case that none else have yet to buy the season or see it in full

Spoiler:

The Storylines for the season.

Frozen Storyline {Still not fully accepting of Ingrid being Elsa and Anna's aunt, maybe six times removed sure but dont get me started on those ribbons, I understand they were needed for the storyline yes, but still....}

the Queens of Darkness storyline was rushed, there was very little to work with, they tried to jam it all into 11 episodes with little result. My guess is the creators were acting as if the show was going to end as of that season, {Its possible however that season 5 will be the last season, nothing is confirmed yet though}

Personal verdict for best and worst episodes!!

Best Episodes; White Out, Smash the Mirror, Fall, Shattered Sight, Operation Mongoose

These episodes I enjoyed quite a bit seeing Elsa sneaking off with the tracking spell to find Emma, breaking in the mansion to save Emma, then reuniting with Anna on the beach in Fall, I will be honest I was sad but not moved to tears when Ingrid sacrificed herself to stop the spell of Shattered Sight. Operation Mongoose was nice, I liked seeing Henry take a heroes role for once. He's a smart kid

Worst episodes: Heart of Gold, Sympathy for the De Vil, Mother; I just didn't get the point of any of these episodes.

My absolute favorite episode of the season: White Out

[poundpuppy29]

the queens of evil didn't do anything for me either

[garhkal]

the queens of evil didn't do anything for me either

Agreed. They just didn't look or act like queens of evil.

[pscard]

First Look at Dark Swan - Once Upon A Time

[garhkal]

Hmm.. Nicely dark!

[poundpuppy29]

creepy but looks good

[Morgania]

Looks good, but her eyebrows bother me for some reason.

[garhkal]

Looks good, but her eyebrows bother me for some reason.

Also when they did a close up on her, it almost looked like she was bald at first..

[jelgate]

OK, so, I finished Season 4 in a full watch through on DVD last night, these are my thoughts, I'll put them in spoiler tags in the case that none else have yet to buy the season or see it in full

Spoiler:

The Storylines for the season.

Frozen Storyline {Still not fully accepting of Ingrid being Elsa and Anna's aunt, maybe six times removed sure but dont get me started on those ribbons, I understand they were needed for the storyline yes, but still....}

the Queens of Darkness storyline was rushed, there was very little to work with, they tried to jam it all into 11 episodes with little result. My guess is the creators were acting as if the show was going to end as of that season, {Its possible however that season 5 will be the last season, nothing is confirmed yet though}

Personal verdict for best and worst episodes!!

Best Episodes; White Out, Smash the Mirror, Fall, Shattered Sight, Operation Mongoose

These episodes I enjoyed quite a bit seeing Elsa sneaking off with the tracking spell to find Emma, breaking in the mansion to save Emma, then reuniting with Anna on the beach in Fall, I will be honest I was sad but not moved to tears when Ingrid sacrificed herself to stop the spell of Shattered Sight. Operation Mongoose was nice, I liked seeing Henry take a heroes role for once. He's a smart kid

Worst episodes: Heart of Gold, Sympathy for the De Vil, Mother; I just didn't get the point of any of these episodes.

My absolute favorite episode of the season: White Out

the queens of evil didn't do anything for me either

I have said before and I will say it again, the whole half season format ruined the show. It was better in S1 and S2. The whole shove an enemy into 10 episodes and then repeat just rushes the show all the time. The whole Author story made sense and was rushed. They need to spend more time fleshing out these villains to make them interesting. Cora was so menacing because we spent almost 2 seasons explaining who she is. The S3 and S4 villains have been too 2D in comparison. .

[poundpuppy29]

I enjoyed the Pan arc and parts of the Frozen arc

[VampyreWraith]

I enjoyed the Pan arc and parts of the Frozen arc

So did I. I didn't really like the second half of those seasons (3 & 4) as much though. I don't really mind the split seasons, I just don't really like the some of the themes (Oz, Queens of Darkness). I think it would be better if they didn't try to force a theme into each half of the season (they don't to have to have a separate theme). I also don't like that new characters keep getting added (because of the half season themes) while some existing characters that I like are ignored or kept in the background.

[poundpuppy29]

I enjoyed Oz

[VampyreWraith]

I only liked some parts of it, same goes with the second half of season 4 (though I liked the second half of 3 more than the second half of 4).

[jelgate]

I'm not saying the stories are bad just not as good as the earlier ones which I attributed to these rushed stories that have occurred since they did half seasons

[VampyreWraith]

^I agree that they aren't bad (with Oz, I just really didn't like Zelena, not even in a love to hate kind of way). I did really like the first halves of both seasons 3 and 4 (and parts of the second halves of those seasons), and I agree that some parts of the story arcs are rushed (especially the ones in the second half of the season IMO, like the whole author thing you mentioned in an earlier post). I just blame it on trying to force a theme into each half season and not on the concept of having half seasons itself. I think we kind of basically agree though.