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Originally posted by jelgate View PostHiroshima was a military target. A nuclear bomb is so massive that any military target will turn to a civilian onesigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostThat's what Tarkin said
Only that Aldeeran wasn't attempting to take over the galaxy and exterminating undesirable races.
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Originally posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post...ISIS did threaten to flood Europe with 500,000 migrants back in February and that seems to be happening now..
How do you prove someone is Christian? They don't have to take a test or get anything cut off.. They don't carry ID cards..
If they have a mark on their body other Christians would try to burn them at the stake or drown them for being a witch so.. How do they know who they're letting in?
It's not in an initial encounter that means anything significant, whether these migrants are becoming true Christians or not. The problem results if/when any of them are actually sleeper cells, and purposely seeking Christian refuge just for infiltration measures, to ambush later.
Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostYeah and I'm hearing that muslims in Germany are converting to christianity to get in the border. This is total b*** crap.. It's morally wrong.
On the other extreme, I also read that many of the migrants fleeing into Europe were Kurds (who are supposed to be the good guys/gals), and were fleeing because of the extreme persecution that was occurring in their former home area. It may be that they wanted out of their Muslim ways (sharia law was too harsh), so they would be eager to try something new (Catholicism? other Christian denomination).
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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostYeah and I'm hearing that muslims in Germany are converting to christianity to get in the border. This is total b*** crap.. It's morally wrong.
Originally posted by SGalisa View PostThat's just it -- these countries do NOT know who they are letting in.
Originally posted by SGalisa View Post...true Christians...
Originally posted by SGalisa View PostThe problem results if/when any of them are actually sleeper cells, and purposely seeking Christian refuge just for infiltration measures, to ambush later.
Originally posted by SGalisa View PostHowever, if they as Muslims believe in deceiving the "infidel" just to gain the end goal of a Muslim (to wipe out the infidels)...
Originally posted by SGalisa View Post...so what is to stop the massive droves of migrant people now from doing something similar?
Originally posted by SGalisa View PostOn the other extreme, I also read that many of the migrants fleeing into Europe were Kurds (who are supposed to be the good guys/gals)...
Originally posted by SGalisa View PostIt may be that they wanted out of their Muslim ways (sharia law was too harsh)...Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Originally posted by aretood2 View Post
Only that Aldeeran wasn't attempting to take over the galaxy and exterminating undesirable races.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by SGalisa View PostThat's just it -- these countries do NOT know who they are letting in.
The vast majority will be good, some will not.
It's not in an initial encounter that means anything significant, whether these migrants are becoming true Christians or not. The problem results if/when any of them are actually sleeper cells, and purposely seeking Christian refuge just for infiltration measures, to ambush later.
ummm. yeah. How serious are some of these *sudden* conversions? I've read from other web discussions from Muslims who believe these people would *never* claim to become Christian just to infiltrate a Church to bring harm to it later. However, if they as Muslims believe in deceiving the "infidel" just to gain the end goal of a Muslim (to wipe out the infidels), would some of these people perhaps be sort of like a middle-man person to send feedback back on names of who's in what location, what they're living status (job field, approx. salary, etc) might be, for the I.S. to get wind of it later and get involved thru some sort of back door sharing policy? Esther, who was a Hebrew/Jew to pretend to be whatever the King and Haman's beliefs were -- did it in ancient lands of Persia and Media or wherever it was; so what is to stop the massive droves of migrant people now from doing something similar?
On the other extreme, I also read that many of the migrants fleeing into Europe were Kurds (who are supposed to be the good guys/gals), and were fleeing because of the extreme persecution that was occurring in their former home area. It may be that they wanted out of their Muslim ways (sharia law was too harsh), so they would be eager to try something new (Catholicism? other Christian denomination).sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostYeah and I'm hearing that muslims in Germany are converting to christianity to get in the border. This is total b*** crap.. It's morally wrong.
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postnothing morally wrong with converting (unless you use sharia law as the moral basis in which case they're committing apostasy which is punishable by death)
* according to the IS-way.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Transplanted from the Cantina thread:
Originally posted by Britta View PostYes. Governments can't deny people Equal Protection under the laws. That includes state governments. That applies to all subjects. By your logic, states would still have the power to ban interracial marriage.
I guess it's a matter of priorities.
In my view, he most important issue facing the U.S. is the pitiful economy and the destruction of the middle and lower classes. Social issues are far less a priority for me.
The Democrat's ideas of taxing the hell out of everyone until everyone is poor has never worked. I don't expect their ideas to be helpful, so I don't really pay much attention to them.
On the other hand, the Republicans have sold their souls to their corporate overlords. The trade deals they (with the Democrat's eager participation) have negotiated over the past 30+ years have outsourced an awful lot of our jobs. Look at the current and I believe at least one other recent recoveries from economic downturns. Wall Street makes a fortune, along with those in top management of corporate America. The middle and lower classes however aren't doing so well, as these companies are hiring domestically as little as possible. And the Republicans are trying to make it easy for immigrants, legal and otherwise to flood the labor markets for jobs that can't be outsourced. Again, to the benefit of the corporate masters who own them.
Trump is making the right noises on the economic issues, and as long as he is doing that, the social issues are not all that important to me because it seems that he is the best chance of doing something with our economy.
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostSleeper cells.... if they exist, they don't need to be following the Bible for it.
Originally posted by Falcon HorusYou speak as if all Muslims want what IS wants.
Originally posted by Falcon HorusWhat in the blazes is a true Christian?
"Actions speak louder than words" ..?
It's the way Jesus (of Nazareth) described His true followers would be known by their "fruit".
"By their fruit you shall KNOW them."
Matthew 7:16-20 (New King James Version (NKJV))
16) You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17) Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18) A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19) Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20) Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
If a person is a "Christian" in name only and produces no fruit or bad fruit (say a bunch of rotten, bad apples, for example), they are not only deceiving other people, but deceiving themselves (thinking God will reward them, when that will never happen) if they are proverbial bad apples. However, if they produce good fruit, then they (truly belong to, or) are of Jesus' followers -- hence, a *TRUE* Christian.
I've sat in Churches where people would go thru the motions of looking pious or acting religious, and the moment they walked out the Church door, they went right back into their previous bad behavior -- they could care less about being *Christian* and only wore that *spiritual* mask, like actors do on a stage, when it suited their fancy (their own end goals).
Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostPeople.
The vast majority will be good, some will not.
The concept you are looking for is spoken about in the concept of Taqiyya. It's a pretty common concept to be honest, but I.S. is the kind of organization to use it as a weapon rather than protection.
Trojan Horse (masquerading without the wooden cover) -- with the end goal results / intentions of bringing harm (to whomever they may be plotting against) at some later moment.
Originally posted by Gatefan1976The concept you are looking for is spoken about in the concept of Taqiyya. It's a pretty common concept to be honest, but I.S. is the kind of organization to use it as a weapon rather than protection.
Nothing, but very, very few would do it.
People who fail to remember history are *doomed* to repeat it (or see it repeated into action again).
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