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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostToo bad you think that the #MeToo movement is made up of "fake" stories because #MeToo ...
Must have been about 14 years old when a guy flashed me his private parts in public, walking home from school -- and about 18 or 19 when I had a guy getting inappropriately close on a trainride to school, sure putting his hands where they didn't belong -- and about 30 when an 18-something your old brushed passed my butt about two times, the third time I had him pinned against the wall with my elbow on his throat, hissing a particularly clear message in his ear (the first time I thought it was accidental since it was crowded). The teengirls standing in my vicintiy thanked me later for putting him in his place.
And this is the first time I ever told anyone about those 2 first times -- which even my family knows nothing about, or my friends.
So, you see... #MeToo comes in various shapes and sizes. And when someone says, man or woman, they have been sexually assaulted or had to endure behavior not appropriate for anyone's age or not taking no for an answer, or whatever... that whole transgressive behavior. I, generally, don't dismiss it at a whim because it's real...
In Jr. high school, a presumably gay male tried some crap on me. (I walked away, he didn't, neither one of us said anything about it to anybody. I was 2 grades behind the assailant, and I handed him his head, without bothering with the basket, which was no doubt embarrassing to him.) So I know first hand it happens and has happened for a very long time, approximately as long has humans have been around.
But over the past few weeks, how many claims have been made? Against figures on the left, right and apolitical. Citing events that happened decades ago. Hundreds?
I don't know what it is but something stinks to high heaven.
Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostOh, how many times my sister has to inform the men she's talking to that her eyes are "up here", and not "down there".
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostToo bad you think that the #MeToo movement is made up of "fake" stories because #MeToo ...
Must have been about 14 years old when a guy flashed me his private parts in public, walking home from school -- and about 18 or 19 when I had a guy getting inappropriately close on a trainride to school, sure putting his hands where they didn't belong -- and about 30 when an 18-something your old brushed passed my butt about two times, the third time I had him pinned against the wall with my elbow on his throat, hissing a particularly clear message in his ear (the first time I thought it was accidental since it was crowded). The teengirls standing in my vicintiy thanked me later for putting him in his place.
And this is the first time I ever told anyone about those 2 first times -- which even my family knows nothing about, or my friends.
So, you see... #MeToo comes in various shapes and sizes. And when someone says, man or woman, they have been sexually assaulted or had to endure behavior not appropriate for anyone's age or not taking no for an answer, or whatever... that whole transgressive behavior. I, generally, don't dismiss it at a whim because it's real...
Oh, how many times my sister has to inform the men she's talking to that her eyes are "up here", and not "down there".
Yup, it's quite possible, some of it is fabricated, but do you want to risk the people who actually did have something happening, like my examples above, that they continue to think "Nobody's gonna listen anyway cause they'll think it was my own fault anyway, or it's "politically motivated" or they'll spin it one way or another..." -- I mean, rape victims have been told on more occasions than once that they were looking for trouble on how they were dressed.
Originally posted by mad_gater View Posthe might be talking about the people who come forward with a claim oftentimes many many years after the fact due to the lengthy, if any, statute of limitations on that particular crime
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI've said several times that I'm well aware this kind of crap happens.
In Jr. high school, a presumably gay male tried some crap on me. (I walked away, he didn't, neither one of us said anything about it to anybody. I was 2 grades behind the assailant, and I handed him his head, without bothering with the basket, which was no doubt embarrassing to him.) So I know first hand it happens and has happened for a very long time, approximately as long has humans have been around.
But over the past few weeks, how many claims have been made? Against figures on the left, right and apolitical. Citing events that happened decades ago. Hundreds?
I don't know what it is but something stinks to high heaven.
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Originally posted by aretood2 View PostJust look at the length you had to go to somehow "save face" for being sexually harassed/assaulted. You couldn't just say "I was sexually harassed/assaulted". Now imagine if he went further. Touched you in ways you did not consent, in very forward ways. I wonder if you would be even more hesitant to just come out and say "I was sexually violated". This is why people keep quiet for years at times. There is great shame attached to admitting being a victim to such a thing.
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Originally posted by mad_gater View Posthe might be talking about the people who come forward with a claim oftentimes many many years after the fact due to the lengthy, if any, statute of limitations on that particular crime
Is there a statute of limitation on sin?
Who is it you really believe in?sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI didn't look at it like that. I didn't do anything to "save face". I simply defended myself in an attack, and about 5 seconds later, he wasn't capable of going further. The situation was over. So I left.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Coco Pops View PostSo no one can explain what exactly the Republican agenda for the USA is?
Do they even have one?
It's up to the states, because a nation of contiguous states can't affect each other, and the fed has no right to do it.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by thekillman View PostNo, you're being too kind to Obama. Bush's war in Iraq has cooled relations with the US considerably. Obama salvaged what he could, but after that Iraq debacle no sane voter in the EU would sanction another major intervention anywhere.
I mean, the US is literally left out of talks and/or not even bothered consulting with. The word of the US is quite meaningless these days.
Originally posted by thekillman View PostTrump already survived too much. I'd be shocked if he suddenly got kicked out now. Especially since history gives us little reason to believe that a president would be ousted from power. Even "watergate" didn't get a president fired. He resigned.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostWhich is why I think it's time for Trump to step aside and let Pence get things done.
His won't step down on his own, not like Nixon. They'll have to literally carry him out of the white house in a straighjacket so he can't get hold of any doorframe on the way out.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostMore on the #Metoo later, but don't you think it's odd that so many are coming forth at one time? This country is famous for jumping onto fads. Remember the Pet Rock?
Although, the #MeToo movement is nothing new. It's been around since 2007:
Meet the woman who coined 'Me Too' 10 years ago — to help women of color
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostIn Jr. high school, a presumably gay male tried some crap on me. (I walked away, he didn't, neither one of us said anything about it to anybody. I was 2 grades behind the assailant, and I handed him his head, without bothering with the basket, which was no doubt embarrassing to him.) So I know first hand it happens and has happened for a very long time, approximately as long has humans have been around.
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostDon't take offense, I'm making no presumptions regarding your sister, but I've heard that tale more often than I can count. And in many cases, the woman has dressed to showcase her chest, but she just isn't happy about who is looking.
But I do know what you mean about those who are after the "right" attention and then complain when they don't get the attention they are seeking from the persons they want it from. They do exist (I happen to know someone like that).
Originally posted by aretood2 View PostI think I remember you posting that story...the one where you whispered. I still think you should have sent your knee to a certain location to send the message home. Hitting men in the special area is no small thing. But some men sure to deserve it, and thus why most other men would laugh. You know, as long as you are sure (which you were) that he is doing that on purpose.
Originally posted by aretood2 View PostI don't see where anyone implied fault here...I'm confused.
Originally posted by aretood2 View PostI do believe in the presumption of innocence. Though, admittedly, most people don't. An accusation is just as good if not better than a conviction in the eyes of many. Which is why "guilty until proven innocent" is a very rare practice throughout human history.
The opinions are divided about what exactly occured.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostI don't know what the Pet Rock is, sorry.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/pet-rock-ca...ry?id=30041318
These things were an incredibly popular fad, almost everyone had one or more.
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fresh news from Land of the Free:
1ST AMENDMENT ABOLISHED
de facto at least:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...cf5_story.html
it's a good start
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Be more informative if you gave the details.
HOUSTON — The Latest on the driver of a pickup truck displaying a profane message opposing President Donald Trump and his supporters (all times local):
7:45 p.m.
The woman who has been seen in the Houston area driving a pickup truck displaying an expletive-laden message opposing President Donald Trump and his supporters has been arrested.
Fort Bend County Sheriff’s Office records show Karen Fonseca was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday on an outstanding fraud warrant issued in August by the Rosenberg Police Department. She remained in the county jail Thursday night with bond set at $1,500.
A sheriff’s spokesman has not answered a message seeking details behind the warrant.
Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls had threatened Fonseca with a disorderly conduct charge over the decal. However, District Attorney John Healey said he didn’t think it would have been a prosecutable case.
The headline on the article: "The Latest: Woman with crude anti-Trump truck decal arrested"
She was arrested on the fraud warrant. Their DA himself stated that the sticker wasn't something he could prosecute for.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostBe more informative if you gave the details.
was waiting for the warrant thing; but you also omitted some details:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3639346
so before she dissed Big Gov she had no warrant & now all of a sudden she has one?
btw the DA also said she can legally be prosecuted for "disorderly conduct" but he won't (probably to avoid public backlash)
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