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Originally posted by garhkal View PostWhich i understand, but its the strange double standard which i see wrong..
Once life is self sustaining, people do not have the right to end that life.
The "grey area" which people often argue about is when that "standard" is met.
So everyone else should be responsible for some' else's choice of opening their legs up??sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postask the Prolifers
generally speaking I doubt anyone remembers choosing to be born
though you're right in a way it happens (to you)
incidentally does the bible explicitly forbid abortion?
Another issue here is believing "Sola Scriptura." Not even evangelicals follow it and they claim to do so. For example, their belief in Trinity is most certainly not Sola Scriptura. Expecting Jews to follow Sola Scriptura is laughable, since they believe in both a Written Torah and an Oral Torah. Under Jewish law, it's not murder but it is not permitted unless certain circumstances are met (Such as a danger to the mother's health/life). But even then, if there is a way to neutralize the birth's threat to the mother, then abortion cannot be carried out until that option is explored.
Within Judaism that's not a question that is up for debate, but in Christianity you could really debate to a point. But for Christians I would say this, if Jewish law forbids abortion unless it poses a threat to the mother's life, what makes you think that Christ's law would be any less?
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Originally posted by SoulReaver View Postask the Prolifers
generally speaking I doubt anyone remembers choosing to be born
though you're right in a way it happens (to you)
incidentally does the bible explicitly forbid abortion?sigpic
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Originally posted by LtColCarter View PostWhat about separation of church and state? People seem to be forgetting that more and more.
That's beyond the point.
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostHave you ever noticed that both you and Annoyed -never- say the guy should keep his junk in his pants?
But the unavoidable truth of our biology states that the woman does have more to risk and therefore should be more careful. If you don't like that basic fact, take it up with the front office. I just work here.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI have always said that both parties are responsible and that the male should keep his pants on just as much as the female.
But the unavoidable truth of our biology states that the woman does have more to risk and therefore should be more careful. If you don't like that basic fact, take it up with the front office. I just work here.sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostI dunno where the double standard is G-man.
Once life is self sustaining, people do not have the right to end that life.
The "grey area" which people often argue about is when that "standard" is met.
Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostHave you ever noticed that both you and Annoyed -never- say the guy should keep his junk in his pants?
Originally posted by LtColCarter View PostWhat about separation of church and state? People seem to be forgetting that more and more.
And in many cases people toss that SoCS around, its NOT to do with the government establishing a religion, such as when the FFRA sue schools for allowing players to pray, or when someone sues a town's coucil building cause they just have a LIST of all churches/Mosques/Synagogues in town and contact info/address info for them... (as happened in one town here in Ohio last year)...
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Originally posted by garhkal View PostJudging by how many young adults these days are STILL living at home with mom into their late 20s/early 30s, that age bracket just went up!!
Originally posted by garhkal View PostSo everyone else should be responsible for some' else's choice of opening their legs up??
Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostHave you ever noticed that both you and Annoyed -never- say the guy should keep his junk in his pants?
Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI have always said that both parties are responsible and that the male should keep his pants on just as much as the female.
But the unavoidable truth of our biology states that the woman does have more to risk and therefore should be more careful. If you don't like that basic fact, take it up with the front office. I just work here.
And Womble says I am a "but"-person... Annoyed can join the club.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostI have always said that both parties are responsible and that the male should keep his pants on just as much as the female.
But the unavoidable truth of our biology states that the woman does have more to risk and therefore should be more careful. If you don't like that basic fact, take it up with the front office. I just work here.Originally posted by Gatefan1976 View PostActually, no you don't.
Yeah.............Originally posted by Falcon Horus View PostAlways the women... Men can do no wrong.
You noticed?
Point made.
And Womble says I am a "but"-person... Annoyed can join the club.
In this case, yes, I understand perfectly well the concept that it takes two to tango, and the male bears equal responsibility with the woman. And the left is happy to proceed under that ASSUMPTION.
But in real life, at the end of the day, Men and Women are different, at a very basic and fundamental level, no matter how fervently some folks wish they weren't. In the real world, they are different.
And because of that difference, in this case, women physically bear the children, they are more likely to have to deal with the aftermath of an unplanned pregnancy. Although it is despicable behavior, and I am by no means advocating it or approving of it, the male ultimately can cut and run. The woman can't. (and killing the innocent baby isn't an acceptable solution)
So it rests upon her shoulders to exercise greater care when it comes to activity that may result in pregnancy.
No amount of wishing, legislation or any damn thing else will change these facts. They are unalterable, except by the hand of our creator, be it evolution or a deity of some sort.
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Originally posted by Annoyed View PostThese reactions to my statement illustrate another criticism I have of the left in general, that they think and act according to the way they wish the world was, as opposed to the way it really is. They want to apply fantasy solutions to real problems.
What problem?
In this case, yes, I understand perfectly well the concept that it takes two to tango, and the male bears equal responsibility with the woman. And the left is happy to proceed under that ASSUMPTION.
But in real life, at the end of the day, Men and Women are different, at a very basic and fundamental level, no matter how fervently some folks wish they weren't. In the real world, they are different.
And because of that difference, in this case, women physically bear the children, they are more likely to have to deal with the aftermath of an unplanned pregnancy. Although it is despicable behavior, and I am by no means advocating it or approving of it, the male ultimately can cut and run. The woman can't. (and killing the innocent baby isn't an acceptable solution)
Yeah, tell me why you should have a vote in this issue again?
So it rests upon her shoulders to exercise greater care when it comes to activity that may result in pregnancy.
No amount of wishing, legislation or any damn thing else will change these facts. They are unalterable, except by the hand of our creator, be it evolution or a deity of some sort.
Woman have babies? FACT
Women are biologically different by a few percentage points? FACT.
Everything else is your opinion, and yes, legislating works because if it did not, people would not be whining about women having the ultimate authority over their own bodies "because that's not acceptable to THEM"sigpicALL THANKS TO THE WONDERFUL CREATOR OF THIS SIG GO TO R.I.G.A lie is just a truth that hasn't gone through conversion therapy yetThe truth isn't the truth
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50 Dead, 53 Injured In Orlando Gay Club Terrorist Attack
Wow...I woke up to this event in my Facebook newsfeed this morning. I was disgusted at the replies to local news outlet postings about the event. There was only one comment saying that this is a punishment from God. Others were calling for the death of Muslims and blaming the attack on President Obama.sigpic
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It's officially the deadliest mass shooting by one shooter, leaving Sandy Hook (27) and Virginia Tech (32) behind.
Also, as I read on my twitter feed: this was the 173rd mass shooting (= more than four people killed) in the US since the start of 2016, and today is only the 164th day of the year.Heightmeyer's Lemming -- still the coolest Lemming of the forum
Proper Stargate Rewatch -- season 10 of SG-1
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