Calling all Scots!!!

[Britta]

I agree, the indyref has been fantastic for getting people off their apathetic backsides and involved in politics for the first time in a long time. Now England needs that proverbial kick up the mik'ta to do the same. Then maybe we can work together to get rid of that Westminster elite clique from rUK as well as Scotland.

Just as long as they don't vote Labour! They pretend to be of the people, fighting against those "out-of-touch toffs" but I don't buy it for a second!

[AmberLM]

either that or they simply get the best medical assistance (the kind not available to civies, so all of us at the gym can forget it) so they can train harder & tolerate extreme conditions better

ok whoever owns them evil vikings definitely deserves to be held in highest esteem

Maybe they're all injected with the X gene?

Aberdonians, man, they're a crazy bunch! ;p someone pointed out to me recently that they're a letter away from Abydonians... any connection I wonder?

[SoulReaver]

btw for u disgruntled scots, something to cheer up :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sYgknWGSA&t=23

(fun parts starts ~2 minutes in)

[SoulReaver]

Aberdonians, man, they're a crazy bunch! ;p someone pointed out to me recently that they're a letter away from Abydonians... any connection I wonder?

bad omen, means they're meant to be enslaved :/

[AmberLM]

Just as long as they don't vote Labour! They pretend to be of the people, fighting against those "out-of-touch toffs" but I don't buy it for a second!

I've always been a Labour voter but, right now, they couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery! The only way I'll be voting for them in the next election is if they ditch Ed and his toff cronies and replace him with Chuka Umunna. He's a breath of fresh air for Labour and their only hope for getting back to their roots in my opinion.

Otherwise I've no idea who the hell I'm voting for in the general election next year. Any chance we can convince Obama or Bill Clinton to join UK politics? They're the only politicians I still like!

[Britta]

Unfortunately Labour can do pretty much anything and still be guaranteed that certain constituencies will vote for them just to keep the Tories out of power, all because they resent the Tories for being rich. I'm not from a remotely wealthy background, but I won't let that get in the way of sensible politics.

Besides, the Tories are removing massive tax penalties on early private pension withdrawals, which is great for working class people with small private pensions that are practically worthless at retirement, but are very useful as lump sums.

Also, have you ever seen parliamentary debates on TV. Labour heckle like a bunch of schoolchildren. More specifically, the kind who regularly get detention. If I can't even respect them, there's no way I'll vote for them.

[Linda06]

Just as long as they don't vote Labour! They pretend to be of the people, fighting against those "out-of-touch toffs" but I don't buy it for a second!

Labour have turned into out of touch toffs

btw for u disgruntled scots, something to cheer up :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sYgknWGSA&t=23

(fun parts starts ~2 minutes in)

mwahahahahahahaha It's all an elaborate plan to take over the world.

[AmberLM]

Unfortunately Labour can do pretty much anything and still be guaranteed that certain constituencies will vote for them just to keep the Tories out of power, all because they resent the Tories for being rich. I'm not from a remotely wealthy background, but I won't let that get in the way of sensible politics.

Besides, the Tories are removing massive tax penalties on early private pension withdrawals, which is great for working class people with small private pensions that are practically worthless at retirement, but are very useful as lump sums.

Also, have you ever seen parliamentary debates on TV. Labour heckle like a bunch of schoolchildren. More specifically, the kind who regularly get detention. If I can't even respect them, there's no way I'll vote for them.

They're all a bunch of school children. In fact, I think that's maybe offensive to teenagers. You only have to watch them heckling each other in the commons. This is supposed to be serious politics not a panto. The 16 and 17 year old indyref voters in Scotland and the SYP are more mature than the MPs in Parliament.

[Britta]

Big party politics is a panto, aimed at guaranteeing that people won't vote for the parties that actually represent their ideals. Who'll vote for the Green party for example (not just a single issue party anymore) when you think you have to vote either Labour or Conservative to make sure the opposite doesn't take power?

[SoulReaver]

mwahahahahahahaha It's all an elaborate plan to take over the world.

aye but foiled by the Montys

[Linda06]

aye but foiled by the Montys

lol Ya cannae beat some Monty Python.

[jelgate]

Oops double post! I'll fix that!

Scottish folk are British. That's like saying a Californian isn't American And I'm English and British, I just live in Scotland. I have no problem admitting that, based on %, Scottish troops are clearly a tougher lot than the English ones. More Scottish guys make it through the very rigorous, physically exhausting SAS recruitment training than the ones from the rest of the UK combined. It's a really tough recruitment process that, sadly, has killed people through sheer physical exhaustion. Their format is also used to train a lot of allies' special forces and, according to NATO, the SAS tend to do better in ops than US Navy Seals.

So, yeah, they're pretty good it's one of the bragging rights that I agree with Scottish nationalists on. They make good special ops guys for some reason. If the SGC had had a Scottish unit, they'd have been on par with SG-1.

Their are many of us who wish that was true

[BruTak]

My personal theory is it's not the Tories as such, that're to blame for the UK being in such a state. It's their ultimate paymasters, the toffs and the "gentry".

They want things to go back to the way things were before the First World War. All the commoners (I.E. Us ordinary folks) are kept firmly under the thumb, are deferential to their "social betters", and they Know Their Place.

This is why the Tories seem to be hellbent on dismantling the NHS, the toffs don't want the proles to have access to decent healthcare.

This is also why public transport links in the UK are so bad, the toffs don't want to see poor people travelling anywhere and cluttering up the place.

Libraries and schools are being closed down left, right, and centre, because the toffs don't like the poor to be educated and know things.

Parks and playing fields are being sold off to developers, so that the poor don't have access to sports and recreation.

[SoulReaver]

My personal theory is it's not the Tories as such, that're to blame for the UK being in such a state. It's their ultimate paymasters, the toffs and the "gentry".

They want things to go back to the way things were before the First World War. All the commoners (I.E. Us ordinary folks) are kept firmly under the thumb, are deferential to their "social betters", and they Know Their Place.

This is why the Tories seem to be hellbent on dismantling the NHS, the toffs don't want the proles to have access to decent healthcare.

This is also why public transport links in the UK are so bad, the toffs don't want to see poor people travelling anywhere and cluttering up the place.

Libraries and schools are being closed down left, right, and centre, because the toffs don't like the poor to be educated and know things.

Parks and playing fields are being sold off to developers, so that the poor don't have access to sports and recreation.

didn't Tony Bliar start this trend?

[Britta]

This is why the Tories seem to be hellbent on dismantling the NHS, the toffs don't want the proles to have access to decent healthcare.

Or it's the other way round. Perhaps Labour have deliberately made the NHS an inefficient mess to keep the poor marginalised so that they'll keep voting for them. Labour do everything they can to make the poor financially dependent on Labour policies.

Do you really trust a bureaucracy like the government to run the entire healthcare system? I'm happy for them to foot the bill, but they're doing a terrible job with the rest of it.