General Ship ( Relationship) Discussion

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I think who ever does a SG show they should watch all of Farscape and Babylon 5 to write ship (relationship) right for a scifi show they didn't do it right in SGU they went too far didn't write it right

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Shippers Rejoice!!!!

Another wonderful Shipper Holiday will soon be upon us.
Come one, come all and share the love that is Sam & Jack!

(Art for this event was created by the lovely and talented selene0789)


For the last 10 years, the Sam/Jack Shippers of the GateWorld Forum have celebrated this special day, the anniversary of the first airing of Divide & Conquer.
It was on July 28, 2000, Jack declared that he cared for Sam more than he was supposed to, and the rest as they say is history!

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Sam/Jack Ship Day


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Happy Ship Day!!!

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by selene0789

[Starry Starry Night]

I've been reading this thread for a few days now, but it's sooo long I can't wait to finish reading before commenting, so I'll comment first and read the rest later...

My favourite ship is Sam & Jack. In fact, I don't really care about other ships, they might be there or not, but they don't really compare to J&S.. Well, I might have opinions about other ships later on but for now, only this one..

I just finished season 8, and I was quite disappointed that there wasn't more obvious "they ended up together" ending, even though I want to interpret the ending that way. There should have been one legitimate kiss, although I liked how the alternative timeline Jack and Sam (who didn't have the issue of "regs" to deal with) were so instantly open about their feelings, I think after eight years and Jack finally retiring (? I'm assuming he retired as I know he is not there for seasons 9&10 which I'm now watching for the first time) there should have been that one kiss between Sam and Jack of this reality that they both would remember afterwards...

But in general I liked their relationship the way it was shown in the series. It was never a focus but it was obvious enough for us to see that they had feelings for each other. Even though I was hoping and rooting for the ship, from series point of view, I'm glad the regs were there and they couldn't actually start anything, because that could have easily ruined the show (as has happened to so many other shows).

I realise I'm maaaany years behind the most heated discussions about this issue, since the series is over for a long time now. However, since I only recently joined this forum and more importantly this is the first time for me I'm watching the whole series from beginning to end (although I've seen seasons 1-7 seven before, some of them several times) it's actually the first time I'm really noticing the ship.. But since the heated arguments are no longer on-going, maybe I can just give my opinion and if anyone wants to talk about it further, I'm more than happy to...

So why I want to see Sam & Jack and not for example Sam & Daniel.. One reason is an obvious one... When the series started and SG-1 was formed Daniel as well as Teal'c were married, Sam and Jack were both single, so that was a good starting point... I think some people who don't see Sam and Jack as a couple rather see Sam and Daniel having more in common... I never saw it like that.. I realise that they are both more educated and have a passion for research, so one might think that would make them more compatible. But I see them too similar in that sense. If they were a couple I could see both of them getting so caught up in their research that they would simply forget about romance, which would not be good for a relationship (we saw hints of that having happened to Daniel and Sarah in Chimera). I see Jack as someone who is enough different, he can get Sam to leave her work behind at the end of the day and relax and laugh... Still, he's a lot smarter than he wants to show, so it's not like he wasn't "smart enough" for Sam. That's why I see them as a better couple (plus obviously the chemistry that is there for S&J).

I was reading some people on this thread commenting about their inequality, him being her boss.. Yes, when they are in the military that is an issue... But I see them more equal in their personal lives, I don't really see Jack being the "boss" there (lol).. So after he retires, it becomes easier.

Funny, one thing I always thought in the earlier seasons (after D & C especially) was that one reason why neither of them would want quit the army for them to be together was, that being in SG-1 they can actually spend much more time together that they could if one of them always stayed behind when the other went to exploring other planets... I realise this is completely my own interpretation...

But my main reason for liking this ship is that while watching the series, I loved every kiss, every hug, every could be shippy look or could be shippy comment between the two. I love Stargate as a series, but this (IMO quite subtle) ship is one of the things that makes it a bit better than other sci-fi shows...

(hmmm... here are my thoughts about this at the moment, maybe not very coherently presented... I will surely get back to this issue later...)

[SGSuzi]

I've been reading this thread for a few days now, but it's sooo long I can't wait to finish reading before commenting, so I'll comment first and read the rest later...

My favourite ship is Sam & Jack. In fact, I don't really care about other ships, they might be there or not, but they don't really compare to J&S.. Well, I might have opinions about other ships later on but for now, only this one..

I just finished season 8, and I was quite disappointed that there wasn't more obvious "they ended up together" ending, even though I want to interpret the ending that way. There should have been one legitimate kiss, although I liked how the alternative timeline Jack and Sam (who didn't have the issue of "regs" to deal with) were so instantly open about their feelings, I think after eight years and Jack finally retiring (? I'm assuming he retired as I know he is not there for seasons 9&10 which I'm now watching for the first time) there should have been that one kiss between Sam and Jack of this reality that they both would remember afterwards...

But in general I liked their relationship the way it was shown in the series. It was never a focus but it was obvious enough for us to see that they had feelings for each other. Even though I was hoping and rooting for the ship, from series point of view, I'm glad the regs were there and they couldn't actually start anything, because that could have easily ruined the show (as has happened to so many other shows).

I realise I'm maaaany years behind the most heated discussions about this issue, since the series is over for a long time now. However, since I only recently joined this forum and more importantly this is the first time for me I'm watching the whole series from beginning to end (although I've seen seasons 1-7 seven before, some of them several times) it's actually the first time I'm really noticing the ship.. But since the heated arguments are no longer on-going, maybe I can just give my opinion and if anyone wants to talk about it further, I'm more than happy to...

So why I want to see Sam & Jack and not for example Sam & Daniel.. One reason is an obvious one... When the series started and SG-1 was formed Daniel as well as Teal'c were married, Sam and Jack were both single, so that was a good starting point... I think some people who don't see Sam and Jack as a couple rather see Sam and Daniel having more in common... I never saw it like that.. I realise that they are both more educated and have a passion for research, so one might think that would make them more compatible. But I see them too similar in that sense. If they were a couple I could see both of them getting so caught up in their research that they would simply forget about romance, which would not be good for a relationship (we saw hints of that having happened to Daniel and Sarah in Chimera). I see Jack as someone who is enough different, he can get Sam to leave her work behind at the end of the day and relax and laugh... Still, he's a lot smarter than he wants to show, so it's not like he wasn't "smart enough" for Sam. That's why I see them as a better couple (plus obviously the chemistry that is there for S&J).

I was reading some people on this thread commenting about their inequality, him being her boss.. Yes, when they are in the military that is an issue... But I see them more equal in their personal lives, I don't really see Jack being the "boss" there (lol).. So after he retires, it becomes easier.

Funny, one thing I always thought in the earlier seasons (after D & C especially) was that one reason why neither of them would want quit the army for them to be together was, that being in SG-1 they can actually spend much more time together that they could if one of them always stayed behind when the other went to exploring other planets... I realise this is completely my own interpretation...

But my main reason for liking this ship is that while watching the series, I loved every kiss, every hug, every could be shippy look or could be shippy comment between the two. I love Stargate as a series, but this (IMO quite subtle) ship is one of the things that makes it a bit better than other sci-fi shows...

(hmmm... here are my thoughts about this at the moment, maybe not very coherently presented... I will surely get back to this issue later...)

Hey there, welcome to GW, if you head over tot he SG1 characters and relationships section there is a whole heap of S/J shippy stuff to go at. There are quite a few newbies and I am like you, not long had my first watch of SG-1. We are just about to embark on a shippers rewatch with shippy reviews of every episode, lots of discussion about our fave couple and lots of vids, fanfics etc

[hlndncr]

I've been reading this thread for a few days now, but it's sooo long I can't wait to finish reading before commenting, so I'll comment first and read the rest later...

My favourite ship is Sam & Jack. In fact, I don't really care about other ships, they might be there or not, but they don't really compare to J&S.. Well, I might have opinions about other ships later on but for now, only this one..

I just finished season 8, and I was quite disappointed that there wasn't more obvious "they ended up together" ending, even though I want to interpret the ending that way. There should have been one legitimate kiss, although I liked how the alternative timeline Jack and Sam (who didn't have the issue of "regs" to deal with) were so instantly open about their feelings, I think after eight years and Jack finally retiring (? I'm assuming he retired as I know he is not there for seasons 9&10 which I'm now watching for the first time) there should have been that one kiss between Sam and Jack of this reality that they both would remember afterwards...

But in general I liked their relationship the way it was shown in the series. It was never a focus but it was obvious enough for us to see that they had feelings for each other. Even though I was hoping and rooting for the ship, from series point of view, I'm glad the regs were there and they couldn't actually start anything, because that could have easily ruined the show (as has happened to so many other shows).

I realise I'm maaaany years behind the most heated discussions about this issue, since the series is over for a long time now. However, since I only recently joined this forum and more importantly this is the first time for me I'm watching the whole series from beginning to end (although I've seen seasons 1-7 seven before, some of them several times) it's actually the first time I'm really noticing the ship.. But since the heated arguments are no longer on-going, maybe I can just give my opinion and if anyone wants to talk about it further, I'm more than happy to...

So why I want to see Sam & Jack and not for example Sam & Daniel.. One reason is an obvious one... When the series started and SG-1 was formed Daniel as well as Teal'c were married, Sam and Jack were both single, so that was a good starting point... I think some people who don't see Sam and Jack as a couple rather see Sam and Daniel having more in common... I never saw it like that.. I realise that they are both more educated and have a passion for research, so one might think that would make them more compatible. But I see them too similar in that sense. If they were a couple I could see both of them getting so caught up in their research that they would simply forget about romance, which would not be good for a relationship (we saw hints of that having happened to Daniel and Sarah in Chimera). I see Jack as someone who is enough different, he can get Sam to leave her work behind at the end of the day and relax and laugh... Still, he's a lot smarter than he wants to show, so it's not like he wasn't "smart enough" for Sam. That's why I see them as a better couple (plus obviously the chemistry that is there for S&J).

I was reading some people on this thread commenting about their inequality, him being her boss.. Yes, when they are in the military that is an issue... But I see them more equal in their personal lives, I don't really see Jack being the "boss" there (lol).. So after he retires, it becomes easier.

Funny, one thing I always thought in the earlier seasons (after D & C especially) was that one reason why neither of them would want quit the army for them to be together was, that being in SG-1 they can actually spend much more time together that they could if one of them always stayed behind when the other went to exploring other planets... I realise this is completely my own interpretation...

But my main reason for liking this ship is that while watching the series, I loved every kiss, every hug, every could be shippy look or could be shippy comment between the two. I love Stargate as a series, but this (IMO quite subtle) ship is one of the things that makes it a bit better than other sci-fi shows...

(hmmm... here are my thoughts about this at the moment, maybe not very coherently presented... I will surely get back to this issue later...)

Lots of good points. Like you I could never see Sam/Daniel. Not only was Daniel married up through mid season 3, but he was very much in love with his wife far beyond that. Even if Sam was interested in Daniel (and she may have been a little bit early on), Daniel really never seemed to think twice about any other woman. There was his little fling with Linea right after Sha're died but I think that was a rebound type thing.

I agree that Jack and Sam are different but well matched. And really, they have many common traits and interests so it's not like they are coming from totally different places. They are career millitary. They love astronomy and flying. They are both great with kids and animals. And they know how to make each other laugh.

I especially love your point about all the time they spent together on SG-1. I'm sure it would be very hard to give that closeness up even if it did mean a more intimate relationship otherwise. I love S/J because I think their relationship is built on a solid foundation of true friendship.

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I'm not too fond of ship, actually. I prefer team stories. Vala/Daniel is cute, tho