Atlantis Timeline in respect to SG-1

[TomWoozle]

Hi,

I am a new Stargate fan, I started watching my roomates SG-1 Season 1 boxset a couple of weeks ago, and am now almost at the end of Season 2. (3 & 4 are on their way now).

I know nothing about Atlantis, and I don't want to ruin my fun by knowing anything about it, because I don't know if it will ruin SG-1 for me.

So my question is - what is the time line with the 2 shows. How many seasons of SG-1 need I get through before reading about Atlantis won't ruin anything?

Thanks!

[Hatcheter]

Season 7's finale plays a big part in setting up Atlantis, and introduces Doctor Weir. Season 8's premier does little more to set up the story, but it does smoe important character stuff for Weir and O'Neill to get the ball rolling on the spinoff (and intoduces Torri Higgenson, who took over the role of Dr. Weir).

I basically did what you're doing. I started watching SG-1 last summer with my roommate's box sets. Took about three months, but I got caught up before the new season/series had more than a half dozen episodes. Then I had to learn to wait a whole week for the next installment. That sucks.

[Avenger]

Yeah. You're best to watch up through season 7 before starting Atlantis as it runs concurrently with season 8.

[Lenonn]

In many cases, only generic chronological references were given. Ideally, start watching Atlantis a few episodes into season eight of SG1.

I've tried to keep spoilers to a minimum.

RISING is a few months after NEW ORDER
HIDE AND SEEK is a few days after RISING
SUSPICION is three months after RISING
THE BROTHERHOOD outright has a character say that the team has been at Atlantis for only "a matter of months" and two weeks before THE SIEGE PART 1
LETTERS FROM PEGASUS is a few days after THE BROTHERHOOD

It also almost goes without saying that the last five episodes or so of both seasons (SG1 and Atlantis) are a continuing storyline that in some ways cross over, thematically if not literally.

[@Li3n]

It also almost goes without saying that the last five episodes or so of both seasons (SG1 and Atlantis) are a continuing storyline that in some ways cross over, thematically if not literally.

That mean's watch "Before I Sleep" (SG-A) just before "It's good 2 be King" (SG-1) and "Moebius 1&2" (SG-1) before "The Siege 2" (SG-A). That way u get some nice suprises.

[alz0rz]

Your absolute best bet would be to watch through Season 7 definately for sure. Season 7 goes into some vague background of the Ancients and about the Atlantis search etc.

Al

[Lenonn]

That mean's watch "Before I Sleep" (SG-A) just before "It's good 2 be King" (SG-1) and "Moebius 1&2" (SG-1) before "The Siege 2" (SG-A). That way u get some nice suprises.

I thought about that. Yeah, as far I've heard thus far, you should definitely watch the MOEBIUS two-parter before the THE SIEGE two-parter. As for BEFORE I SLEEP and IT'S GOOD TO BE KING, I don't think the order of those two matter, although they definitely are interconnected.

[Lord You]

Your absolute best bet would be to watch through Season 7 definately for sure. Season 7 goes into some vague background of the Ancients and about the Atlantis search etc.

Al

In fact, the search for the Lost City of Atlantis starts in Full Circle (season 6), so I'd definitely include that in your prerequisite list. (Not to mention it's one of the best episodes of SG-1 ever - even better than The Lost City IMHO.) Also Dr. McKay is featured in two (actually, three) episodes of SG-1 that set up his character rather nicely: Redemption in season 6 and 48 Hours in season 5.

Also, Redemption won't make much sense without watching the season 5 episodes Meridian and Relevations. Full Circle also benifits from the season 6 episodes Abyss and The Changeling. However, you need to watch Cure (season 6) to understand The Changeling, Allegiance (season 6) to understand the Tok'ra characters in The Changeling, and Frozen (season 6) which sets up some Ancient backstory for Atlantis and also to understand Abyss some more. The Warrior (5) also introduces the Jaffa rebellion.

The two (four) episodes of SG-1 that directly set up Atlantis, New Order (8), The Lost City (7), also require Red Sky (5), Descent (6), Prometheus (6), Unnatural Selection (6), Disclosure (6), Fallen (7), Homecoming (7), Evolution (two parts, 7), Heros (two parts, 7), Death Knell (7), and Inauguration (7).

Disclosure also references Smoke and Mirrors (6), which in turn references Nightwalkers (6) and Chain Reaction (4). That last episodes is also referenced by The Lost City when the President explains the evidence he has to get the vice-president shot. Chain Reaction in turn requires Shades of Grey (3) and Touchstone (2).

To understand Relevations, you should watch Between Two Fires (5), Proving Ground (5), Summit (5), Last Stand (5); in addition, Unnatural Selection references Menace (5) too. Between Two Fires and 48 Hours also build on storylines from Threshold (5), Enemies (5), Exodus (4), and Double Jeopardy (4). Exodus also requires Crossroads (4).

The Curse (4) is also important to Summit, Last Stand; although, that storyline ends with Resurrection (7). Watergate (4) and The Tomb (5) are important to understand the Russian's actions in Redemption. Divide and Conquer (4) and to a lesser extent Upgrades (4) are useful for understanding Exodus and to a lesser extent Summit. I also recommend The Serpent's Venom (4), since it is a cool episode.

Small Victories (4) and Nemesis (3) are needed to understand Watergate and any Replicator episode. Maternial Instinct (3) and Absolute Power (4) are required to understand Daniel's motivations. Prodigy (4) is useful for Proving Ground. Also, you need to watch The Fifth Man (5) to understand Summit and Last Stand.

Between Two Fires also follows Pretense (3), while Maternial Instinct is linked with The Devil You Know (3), Jolinar's Memories (3), and Forever in a Day (3). The Devil You Know and Jolinar's Memories assume you have seen Demons (3) and the lackluster Deadman Switch (3). Nemesis also assumes Fair Game (3), which requires Seth (3), Into the Fire (3), and Out of Mind (3). Learning Curve (3) is another important episode that indicates where Earth learned how to build Naquadria Reactors, and Rules of Engagement (3) is a personal favorite.

Forever in a Day and Maternial Instinct are also sequels to Secrets (2). Exodus requires A Matter of Time (2) and The Lost City as well as Atlantis require knowing about The Fifth Race (2), which is possibly the best episode of SG-1 ever. The substance Trinium - often talked about in several episodes - is introduced in Spirits (2). The Tok'ra (two parts, 2) introduces the Tok'ra and follows up Secrets and In the Line of Duty (2), that latter is needed for Jolinar's Memories. Finally, Thor's Chariot (2) introduces the true form of Thor.

Secrets, Pretense and Serpent's Song follow up The Serpent's Lair (2), There But For the Grace of God (1), Politics (1), and Within the Serpent's Grasp. Those three require The Enemy Within (1), and the pilot, Children of the Gods (1). Double Jeopardy is the sequel to Tin Man (1), and Pretense requires Enigma (1), and The Nox (1).

Bloodlines (1) and Family (2) are needed to understand Redemption as well as any episode involving Bra'tac and Teal'c's son Ryac. Hathor (1) is required for Out of Mind and Into the Fire, as well as the incident O'Neill asks Fraiser never to mention. Solitudes (1) is required for Nemesis, Watergate, Redemption, and Frozen. The Torment of Tantalus (1) is required for The Fifth Race and There But For the Grace of God. Thor's Chariot is the sequel to Thor's hammer (1), and The Torment of Tantalus references it too.

The Broca Divide (1) provides context for a scene in Enigma and introduces Dr. Fraiser. In Heros and Fair Game, Janet talks about someone introduced in Singularity (1), which continues through Rite of Passage (5) and ends with Metamorphosis (6).

The above episodes believe it or not actually ignore a few storylines: specifically the N.I.D. thread, Martin Lloyd's stories, the Unas stories, the Ashen stories, Ma'chello's thread, and several interesting episodes involving the Ancients. So here's what you should see, in order. There are many other episodes that are really good, but not necessary for understanding Atlantis.

1. Children of the Gods
2. The Enemy Within
3. The Broca Divide
4. The Nox
5. Thor's hammer
6. The Torment of Tantalus
7. Bloodlines
8. Hathor
9. Singularity
10. Enigma
11. Solitudes
12. Tin Man
13. There But For the Grace of God
14. Politics
15. Within the Serpent's Grasp
16. The Serpent's Lair
17. In the Line of Duty
18. Thor's Chariot
19. Family
20. Secrets
21. The Tok'ra
22. Spirits
23. Touchstone
24. The Fifth Race
25. A Matter of Time
26. Out of Mind
27. Into the Fire
28. Seth
29. Fair Game
30. Learning Curve
31. Deadman Switch
32. Demons
33. Rules of Engagement
34. Forever in a Day
35. Jolinar's Memories
36. The Devil You Know
37. Pretense
38. Shades of Grey
39. Maternial Instinct
40. Nemesis
41. Small Victories
42. Upgrades
43. Crossroads
44. Divide and Conquer
45. Watergate
46. The Curse
47. The Serpent's Venom
48. Chain Reaction
49. Absolute Power
50. Prodigy
51. Double Jeopardy
52. Exodus
53. Enemies
54. Threshold
55. The Fifth Man
56. Red Sky
57. Rite of Passage
58. The Tomb
59. Between Two Fires
60. Proving Ground
61. 48 Hours
62. Summit
63. Last Stand
64. Fail Safe
65. The Warrior
66. Menace
67. Meridian
68. Relevations
69. Redemption
70. Descent
71. Frozen
72. Nightwalkers
73. Abyss
74. Allegiance
75. Cure
76. Prometheus
77. Unnatural Selection
78. Smoke and Mirrors
79. Metamorphosis
80. Disclosure
81. The Changeling
82. Full Circle
83. Fallen
84. Homecoming
85. Evolution
86. Death Knell
87. Heros
88. Resurrection
89. Inauguration
90. The Lost City
91. New Order

And don't forget the movie that started it all!

[charonme]

sg1 and atlantis episodes ordered by the first airing dates (dates taken from wikipedia) ("a"=atlantis, "s"=sg-1, first 2 digits=season number, last 2 digits=episode number)

s0801 New Order (Part 1) 07/09/04
s0802 New Order (Part 2) 07/09/04
a0101 Rising (Part 1) 07/16/04
a0102 Rising (Part 2) 07/16/04
a0103 Hide and Seek 07/23/04
s0803 Lockdown 07/23/04
a0104 Thirty-Eight Minutes 07/30/04
s0804 Zero Hour 07/30/04
a0105 Suspicion 08/06/04
s0805 Icon 08/06/04
a0106 Childhood's End 08/13/04
s0806 Avatar 08/13/04
a0107 Poisoning the Well 08/20/04
s0807 Affinity 08/20/04
a0108 Underground 08/27/04
s0808 Covenant 08/27/04
a0109 Home 09/10/04
s0809 Sacrifices 09/10/04
a0110 The Storm (Part 1) 09/17/04
s0810 Endgame 09/17/04
a0111 The Eye (Part 2) 11/08/04
a0112 The Defiant One 11/15/04
a0113 Hot Zone 11/22/04
a0114 Sanctuary 11/29/04
a0115 Before I Sleep 12/06/04
s0811 Gemini 12/14/04
s0812 Prometheus Unbound 12/21/04
a0116 The Brotherhood 01/03/05
s0813 It's Good to Be King 01/04/05
a0117 Letters from Pegasus 01/10/05
s0814 Full Alert 01/11/05
a0118 The Gift 01/17/05
s0815 Citizen Joe 01/18/05
a0119 The Siege (Part 1) 01/24/05
s0816 Reckoning (Part 1) 01/25/05
a0120 The Siege (Part 2) 01/31/05
s0817 Reckoning (Part 2) 02/01/05
s0818 Threads 02/08/05
s0819 Moebius (Part 1) 02/15/05
s0820 Moebius (Part 2) 02/22/05
a0201 The Siege (Part 3) 07/15/05
s0901 Avalon (Part 1) 07/15/05
a0202 The Intruder 07/22/05
s0902 Avalon (Part 2) 07/22/05
a0203 Runner 07/29/05
s0903 Origin (Part 3) 07/29/05
a0204 Duet 08/05/05
s0904 The Ties That Bind 08/05/05
a0205 Condemned 08/12/05
s0905 The Powers That Be 08/12/05
a0206 Trinity 08/19/05
s0906 Beachhead 08/19/05
a0207 Instinct (Part 1) 08/26/05
s0907 Ex Deus Machina 08/26/05
a0208 Conversion (Part 2) 09/09/05
s0908 Babylon 09/09/05
s0909 Prototype 09/16/05
s0910 The Fourth Horseman (Part 1) 09/16/05
a0209 Aurora 09/23/05
a0210 The Lost Boys (Part 1) 09/23/05
a0211 The Hive (Part 2) 11/21/05
a0212 Epiphany 11/28/05
a0213 Critical Mass 12/05/05
a0214 Grace Under Pressure 12/12/05
a0215 The Tower 12/19/05
a0216 The Long Goodbye 01/02/06
s0911 The Fourth Horseman (Part 2) 01/06/06
a0217 Coup D'etat 01/09/06
s0912 Collateral Damage 01/13/06
a0218 Michael 01/16/06
s0913 Ripple Effect 01/20/06
a0219 Inferno 01/23/06
s0914 Stronghold 01/27/06
a0220 Allies (Part 1) 01/30/06
s0915 Ethon 02/03/06
s0916 Off the Grid 02/10/06
s0917 The Scourge 02/17/06
s0918 Arthur's Mantle 02/24/06
s0919 Crusade 03/03/06
s0920 Camelot 03/10/06
a0301 No Man's Land (Part 2) 07/14/06
s1001 Flesh and Blood 07/14/06
a0302 Misbegotten (Part 3) 07/21/06
s1002 Morpheus 07/21/06
a0303 Irresistible 07/28/06
s1003 The Pegasus Project 07/28/06
a0304 Sateda 08/04/06
s1004 Insiders 08/04/06
a0305 Progeny (Part 1) 08/11/06
s1005 Uninvited 08/11/06
a0306 The Real World (Part 2) 08/18/06
s1006 200 08/18/06
a0307 Common Ground 08/25/06
s1007 Counterstrike 08/25/06
a0308 McKay and Mrs. Miller 09/08/06
s1008 Memento Mori 09/08/06
a0309 Phantoms 09/15/06
s1009 Company of Thieves 09/15/06
a0310 The Return (Part 1) 09/22/06
s1010 The Quest (Part 1) 09/22/06
a0311 The Return (Part 2) 11/20/06
a0312 Echoes 11/27/06
a0313 Irresponsible 12/04/06
a0314 Tao of Rodney 12/11/06
a0315 The Game 12/18/06
a0316 The Ark 01/08/07
s1011 The Quest (Part 2) 01/09/07
a0317 Sunday 01/15/07
s1012 Line in the Sand 01/16/07
a0318 Submersion 01/22/07
s1013 The Road Not Taken 01/23/07
a0319 Vengeance 01/29/07
s1014 The Shroud 01/30/07
a0320 First Strike (Part 1) 02/05/07
s1015 Bounty 02/06/07
s1016 Bad Guys 02/13/07
s1017 Talion 02/20/07
s1018 Family Ties 02/27/07
s1019 Dominion 03/06/07
s1020 Unending 03/13/07
a0401 Adrift (Part 2) 09/28/07

[Kor]

Thanks. I plan on watching Sg-1 & Atlantis in order once I have the dvds & this will help.

[AtlantisAssassin]

all I can say is..... HOLY CRAP!! people sure as hell do their reserch well!


lol

[leiasky]

all I can say is..... HOLY CRAP!! people sure as hell do their reserch well!


lol

My reaction exactly! My eyeballs crossed!

[Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper]

In short, and to reduce it to a nutshell, get the following right:

SG1 Season 7 - Lost City -Parts 1 & 2
SG1 Season 8 - New Order - Parts 1 & 2
SGA Season 1 - Rising

That's probably the most important order to get right, then do what everyone else above said.

[Kor]

Thanks again. It seems some REALLY know Stargate here.

[Ripple in Space]

sg1 and atlantis episodes ordered by the first airing dates (dates taken from wikipedia) ("a"=atlantis, "s"=sg-1, first 2 digits=season number, last 2 digits=episode number)

s0801 New Order (Part 1) 07/09/04
s0802 New Order (Part 2) 07/09/04
a0101 Rising (Part 1) 07/16/04
a0102 Rising (Part 2) 07/16/04
a0103 Hide and Seek 07/23/04
s0803 Lockdown 07/23/04
a0104 Thirty-Eight Minutes 07/30/04
s0804 Zero Hour 07/30/04
a0105 Suspicion 08/06/04
s0805 Icon 08/06/04
a0106 Childhood's End 08/13/04
s0806 Avatar 08/13/04
a0107 Poisoning the Well 08/20/04
s0807 Affinity 08/20/04
a0108 Underground 08/27/04
s0808 Covenant 08/27/04
a0109 Home 09/10/04
s0809 Sacrifices 09/10/04
a0110 The Storm (Part 1) 09/17/04
s0810 Endgame 09/17/04
a0111 The Eye (Part 2) 11/08/04
a0112 The Defiant One 11/15/04
a0113 Hot Zone 11/22/04
a0114 Sanctuary 11/29/04
a0115 Before I Sleep 12/06/04
s0811 Gemini 12/14/04
s0812 Prometheus Unbound 12/21/04
a0116 The Brotherhood 01/03/05
s0813 It's Good to Be King 01/04/05
a0117 Letters from Pegasus 01/10/05
s0814 Full Alert 01/11/05
a0118 The Gift 01/17/05
s0815 Citizen Joe 01/18/05
a0119 The Siege (Part 1) 01/24/05
s0816 Reckoning (Part 1) 01/25/05
a0120 The Siege (Part 2) 01/31/05
s0817 Reckoning (Part 2) 02/01/05
s0818 Threads 02/08/05
s0819 Moebius (Part 1) 02/15/05
s0820 Moebius (Part 2) 02/22/05
a0201 The Siege (Part 3) 07/15/05
s0901 Avalon (Part 1) 07/15/05
a0202 The Intruder 07/22/05
s0902 Avalon (Part 2) 07/22/05
a0203 Runner 07/29/05
s0903 Origin (Part 3) 07/29/05
a0204 Duet 08/05/05
s0904 The Ties That Bind 08/05/05
a0205 Condemned 08/12/05
s0905 The Powers That Be 08/12/05
a0206 Trinity 08/19/05
s0906 Beachhead 08/19/05
a0207 Instinct (Part 1) 08/26/05
s0907 Ex Deus Machina 08/26/05
a0208 Conversion (Part 2) 09/09/05
s0908 Babylon 09/09/05
s0909 Prototype 09/16/05
s0910 The Fourth Horseman (Part 1) 09/16/05
a0209 Aurora 09/23/05
a0210 The Lost Boys (Part 1) 09/23/05
a0211 The Hive (Part 2) 11/21/05
a0212 Epiphany 11/28/05
a0213 Critical Mass 12/05/05
a0214 Grace Under Pressure 12/12/05
a0215 The Tower 12/19/05
a0216 The Long Goodbye 01/02/06
s0911 The Fourth Horseman (Part 2) 01/06/06
a0217 Coup D'etat 01/09/06
s0912 Collateral Damage 01/13/06
a0218 Michael 01/16/06
s0913 Ripple Effect 01/20/06
a0219 Inferno 01/23/06
s0914 Stronghold 01/27/06
a0220 Allies (Part 1) 01/30/06
s0915 Ethon 02/03/06
s0916 Off the Grid 02/10/06
s0917 The Scourge 02/17/06
s0918 Arthur's Mantle 02/24/06
s0919 Crusade 03/03/06
s0920 Camelot 03/10/06
a0301 No Man's Land (Part 2) 07/14/06
s1001 Flesh and Blood 07/14/06
a0302 Misbegotten (Part 3) 07/21/06
s1002 Morpheus 07/21/06
a0303 Irresistible 07/28/06
s1003 The Pegasus Project 07/28/06
a0304 Sateda 08/04/06
s1004 Insiders 08/04/06
a0305 Progeny (Part 1) 08/11/06
s1005 Uninvited 08/11/06
a0306 The Real World (Part 2) 08/18/06
s1006 200 08/18/06
a0307 Common Ground 08/25/06
s1007 Counterstrike 08/25/06
a0308 McKay and Mrs. Miller 09/08/06
s1008 Memento Mori 09/08/06
a0309 Phantoms 09/15/06
s1009 Company of Thieves 09/15/06
a0310 The Return (Part 1) 09/22/06
s1010 The Quest (Part 1) 09/22/06
a0311 The Return (Part 2) 11/20/06
a0312 Echoes 11/27/06
a0313 Irresponsible 12/04/06
a0314 Tao of Rodney 12/11/06
a0315 The Game 12/18/06
a0316 The Ark 01/08/07
s1011 The Quest (Part 2) 01/09/07
a0317 Sunday 01/15/07
s1012 Line in the Sand 01/16/07
a0318 Submersion 01/22/07
s1013 The Road Not Taken 01/23/07
a0319 Vengeance 01/29/07
s1014 The Shroud 01/30/07
a0320 First Strike (Part 1) 02/05/07
s1015 Bounty 02/06/07
s1016 Bad Guys 02/13/07
s1017 Talion 02/20/07
s1018 Family Ties 02/27/07
s1019 Dominion 03/06/07
s1020 Unending 03/13/07
a0401 Adrift (Part 2) 09/28/07

Isn't "Ark of Truth" before Adrift?