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GateWorld
November 7th, 2018, 03:05 PM
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<SPAN STYLE="font-size:0.8em;">EPISODE NUMBER - 3707 / 1107</SPAN>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0; text-align:left;">After the Doctor receives a delivery the team answers a call for help from an employee inside Kerblam!, the galaxy's largest retail company, taking jobs inside the gigantic warehouse ... where human resources are supervised by cheerful robots.</DIV>
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GodAtum
November 18th, 2018, 11:23 AM
I never trusted Amazon anyway.

Annoyed
November 19th, 2018, 04:14 AM
This was my favorite of this season yet, so far anyway. Good old fashioned puzzle for the Doctor to solve.

DigiFluid
November 19th, 2018, 04:53 AM
Shame they killed off Kira. I understand why they did it, narratively speaking, but the actress had a 'companion quality' to her in the vein of 'Lynda with a Y' or Sally Sparrow.

Falcon Horus
November 19th, 2018, 05:22 AM
FEZ's are cool!

:D

Also, hello... and I'd like the Doctor to pop over and give that brilliant management-speech to my teamlead. She seriously needs to be told those exact words.

tomstone
November 19th, 2018, 11:26 AM
Great Episode. Good that we are getting there. Am I the only one questioning the Doctors moral here? I mean its one thing to let the baddie blow up in his own trap, but imo she effectively killed or at least greatly damaged the innocent calling for help.

It was the system itself, that called her to help. Her reaction in turn was to blow up a big portion of the systems population. Job well done? Doesnt quite feel that way.

GodAtum
November 19th, 2018, 02:00 PM
This has probably been the worst season of DW reboot so far. There's no real jeopardy, the Doctor's not been severely tested yet nor had any extremely difficult decisions to make, I'm not emotional invested in any of the characters yet, there's no mystery or new insight revealed.

Falcon Horus
November 20th, 2018, 05:01 AM
It was the system itself, that called her to help. Her reaction in turn was to blow up a big portion of the systems population. Job well done? Doesnt quite feel that way.

She asked Twirly for help in turn when Charlie activated the deliverers to teleport to their customers. It was the system, in the end, the way I see it, which blew itself up -- or at least the Kerblam men. They saved the customers' lives by delivering to themselves instead and popping the bubble wrap.

And she did try to save Charlie, but he didn't want to be saved. He had time to return when Graham called out to him, and it wasn't until Graham told the Doctor to get them out of there, that she activated the teleport.

Gatefan1976
November 20th, 2018, 06:47 AM
She asked Twirly for help in turn when Charlie activated the deliverers to teleport to their customers. It was the system, in the end, the way I see it, which blew itself up -- or at least the Kerblam men. They saved the customers' lives by delivering to themselves instead and popping the bubble wrap.

And she did try to save Charlie, but he didn't want to be saved. He had time to return when Graham called out to him, and it wasn't until Graham told the Doctor to get them out of there, that she activated the teleport.

Yup.
The system held back the kerblam men as defective circuits that were a threat to others. Unlike say DATA who is an autonomous, contained system, the Kerblam AI is a widespread intelligence that the loss of even thousands of drone hosts is nothing.
Indeed, the fact that spinny so readily complied with the Doctors suggestions tells us it KNEW that, and it was the best course of action under the circumstances.

BruTak
November 22nd, 2018, 05:07 AM
I used to work for Amazon, and I was sitting watching, mentally ticking off all the similarities.

Colour coded hi-vis vests for different jobs? Check.
Managers spouting nothing but corporate clichés and buzzwords? Check.
Not being allowed to talk to your mates or more than a couple of minutes outwith break times? Check.
Conveyor belts whizzing all over the place? Check.

I had this mental image of Amazon's head honcho, Jeff Bezos, sitting in his underground lair, stroking his white Persian cat, and saying to himself "Ankle monitors? Hmmm... Now why didn't I think of that?" :D

The only thing that bugged me, was how slowly the packers were going. I used to do that job (among many others), and if I had been going that slow I'd probably have been either moved to another job or fired.
Last time I checked, the hourly target for Single Item Pack was 100 items per hour.

Falcon Horus
November 22nd, 2018, 06:39 AM
The only thing that bugged me, was how slowly the packers were going. I used to do that job (among many others), and if I had been going that slow I'd probably have been either moved to another job or fired.
Last time I checked, the hourly target for Single Item Pack was 100 items per hour.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing -- they would not have made it through day one at Nike. :p

I especially like the Doctor's comment about how repetitive and boring the packaging is. Notwithstanding she was originally in the cleaning department, although I imagine, that was the system trying to get her to work with Charlie instead so she could perhaps stop him earlier. *shrug*

BruTak
November 22nd, 2018, 07:15 AM
Any speculation as to where Ryan worked? There isn't an Amazon warehouse in Sheffield.

Sports Direct maybe?

Falcon Horus
November 22nd, 2018, 07:55 AM
Any speculation as to where Ryan worked? There isn't an Amazon warehouse in Sheffield.

Sports Direct maybe?

He said so during the scanning -- Sports Direct in the People's Republic of South Yorkshire (?)

****

Another thing I felt like really relatable this episode, other than the Doctor just completely channeling all of me, the idea that she couldn't sit on the conveyer belt... COME ON!! Not cool! :p

BruTak
November 22nd, 2018, 10:20 AM
The horror stories I've heard about Sports Direct warehouses, they make Amazon look like a holiday camp by comparison.

But I was thinking, this episode has one of the simplest Doctor Who related cosplays ever. Your normal street clothes, plus a hi-vis vest with the Kablam logo on the back. :)

Falcon Horus
November 22nd, 2018, 10:31 AM
But I was thinking, this episode has one of the simplest Doctor Who related cosplays ever. Your normal street clothes, plus a hi-vis vest with the Kablam logo on the back. :)

Indeed, but I would still go for a Kerblam!-man. :p

BruTak
November 22nd, 2018, 10:48 AM
Wouldn't mind a radio controlled Twirly. :)

Falcon Horus
November 22nd, 2018, 12:25 PM
Wouldn't mind a radio controlled Twirly. :)

As a bluetooth speaker... just saying... :D

P-90_177
November 22nd, 2018, 05:28 PM
The horror stories I've heard about Sports Direct warehouses, they make Amazon look like a holiday camp by comparison.

But I was thinking, this episode has one of the simplest Doctor Who related cosplays ever. Your normal street clothes, plus a hi-vis vest with the Kablam logo on the back. :)

I'd rather work for Kerblam! than Sports Direct. :P

Falcon Horus
November 23rd, 2018, 02:21 AM
I'd rather work for Kerblam! than Sports Direct. :P

Order picking -- I've got some experience in that. Packing, rather not. :p

BruTak
November 23rd, 2018, 02:51 AM
Pick and Stow are about the only two jobs I haven't done in Amazon. Can't do them because it'd involve me getting stuff from locations at ground level, I've got bad knees and I kneel down for anything there's no guarantees I'd be able to get back up again without help.

I've done Receive (hated it, could never make my targets), Single Pack, Multi Pack, Bundler, and Shipping.

Shipping was easily my favourite, no targets to meet, just putting the boxes into the back of a trailer.

Falcon Horus
November 23rd, 2018, 05:09 AM
I loved picking as a back-up at my previous deskjob. It meant freedom in the warehouse and not having people constantly nagging in my ear about deadlines and images.

It was utter freedom for me. :)

Annoyed
November 23rd, 2018, 06:37 AM
I loved picking as a back-up at my previous deskjob. It meant freedom in the warehouse and not having people constantly nagging in my ear about deadlines and images.

It was utter freedom for me. :)

People are such a P.I.T.A., aren't they? :D

Falcon Horus
November 23rd, 2018, 07:10 AM
People are such a P.I.T.A., aren't they? :D

They can be... especially when the coffeemachine is broken. :p

tomstone
November 23rd, 2018, 07:39 AM
After reading all these Posts, now I would love to see the Crew in a Callcenter enviroment and what they would do with it. That has been my main work area so far and there is also alot of bs afoot there. Especially cold calling people, aka calling them without any reason except that the company got your number.

Also I got to agree to your responses to my previous Post. I guess the System did have a hand in saving all those People, by sacrificing its own drones. It would have been interresting though, if the System complied to the point of changing delivery location, but refused to sacrefice the drones. In a sense them saying, hey we are alive too!

P-90_177
November 23rd, 2018, 04:27 PM
After reading all these Posts, now I would love to see the Crew in a Callcenter enviroment and what they would do with it. That has been my main work area so far and there is also alot of bs afoot there. Especially cold calling people, aka calling them without any reason except that the company got your number.

Also I got to agree to your responses to my previous Post. I guess the System did have a hand in saving all those People, by sacrificing its own drones. It would have been interresting though, if the System complied to the point of changing delivery location, but refused to sacrefice the drones. In a sense them saying, hey we are alive too!

You have my sympathies. I've worked in a few call centre jobs. All inbound but in a variety of areas. Sales, insurance and banking. Two of them made me ill with anxiety. I only really enjoyed the Insurance one and that's because I felt like I was helping people most of the time but even then I just couldn't hack it in the end.

tomstone
November 23rd, 2018, 06:54 PM
You have my sympathies. I've worked in a few call centre jobs. All inbound but in a variety of areas. Sales, insurance and banking. Two of them made me ill with anxiety. I only really enjoyed the Insurance one and that's because I felt like I was helping people most of the time but even then I just couldn't hack it in the end.


:D Ditto. Thats the main reason why I like it. Some people take me for crazy when I say I am happy to work at a center. :P

P-90_177
November 23rd, 2018, 08:16 PM
:D Ditto. Thats the main reason why I like it. Some people take me for crazy when I say I am happy to work at a center. :P

I can understand why some people do. I remember when I was doing well in the insurance one that I used to go home feeling really up beat because I felt like I'd done a good job and talked to some interesting people. Nice thing about insurance as well is that every call is different. Or at least it was in my bit cos I was taking car insurance claim calls for people who had accidents. Each call took anywhere between 15 to 30 minutes too so it was a fair chunk of time to chat to a person. After that though I was in banking and I was back to taking calls that only lasted 2 to 3 minutes at a time and it was just completely over whelming. Now I'm back to hating most members of the human race. I retreated to working in a kitchen away from customers accordingly. :P

tomstone
November 23rd, 2018, 08:23 PM
I can understand why some people do. I remember when I was doing well in the insurance one that I used to go home feeling really up beat because I felt like I'd done a good job and talked to some interesting people. Nice thing about insurance as well is that every call is different. Or at least it was in my bit cos I was taking car insurance claim calls for people who had accidents. Each call took anywhere between 15 to 30 minutes too so it was a fair chunk of time to chat to a person. After that though I was in banking and I was back to taking calls that only lasted 2 to 3 minutes at a time and it was just completely over whelming. Now I'm back to hating most members of the human race. I retreated to working in a kitchen away from customers accordingly. :P

Lol. I know what you mean. Luckily I only had 1 Job where I couldnt help People and was really just bothering them. I was supposed to call them and sell a paid subscription to have your phone number listed online. Needless to say, I did not stay there longer than a week. I just would not trick people into doing that.

P-90_177
November 23rd, 2018, 08:26 PM
Lol. I know what you mean. Luckily I only had 1 Job where I couldnt help People and was really just bothering them. I was supposed to call them and sell a paid subscription to have your phone number listed online. Needless to say, I did not stay there longer than a week. I just would not trick people into doing that.

Oh geez I couldn't even begin to do that. I have this terrible disease where I have to be honest to customers so when they go "Why do I need this?" my response is usually something along the lines of "You really don't." :P It's an issue when the company gives you targets to upsell. :P

Falcon Horus
November 25th, 2018, 03:23 AM
Oh geez I couldn't even begin to do that. I have this terrible disease where I have to be honest to customers so when they go "Why do I need this?" my response is usually something along the lines of "You really don't." :P It's an issue when the company gives you targets to upsell. :P

I once knew someone who couldn't do that in a clothing store, tell people they looked fabulous in something they were clearly better of not buying at all. She didn't last a week in that shop.

cosmichobo
November 26th, 2018, 12:56 AM
Robots of Death, anyone?

Falcon Horus
November 26th, 2018, 04:30 AM
Robots of Death, anyone?

Well, not really... they didn't kill anyone... At least, not the dispatchers. The Teammates used by the system and Charlie, on the other hand, yeah definitely.