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GateWorld
May 8th, 2017, 09:59 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 221</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">When Rhea launches a full-scale Daxamite invasion of Earth, the President orders the D.E.O. to use a powerful weapon against the mothership -- while Supergirl joins forces with an enemy to try and rescue Lena and Mon-El. Cat Grant returns to National City.</DIV>
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jelgate
May 15th, 2017, 06:03 PM
After watching this episode, I really miss Cat Grant

Annoyed
May 15th, 2017, 08:19 PM
I know, Rhea is a basic cardboard cutout "villainess" character, but Teri Hatcher does SUCH a good job at it. I think Rhea is my favorite bad guy of the series.

garhkal
May 15th, 2017, 09:41 PM
After watching this episode, I really miss Cat Grant

I loved how she handled herself, AND how she twigged guardian was olson, but i STILL can't figure out has she twigged on supergirl or not.. And if she has, WHY she is still playing so coy.

I also called it that any aliance with cadmus was gonna bite them. AND I REALLY hated watching Maggy and Alex, struggle with doing the ONE FRIKKEN thing they should both be good at. Following damn orders!

Starsaber
May 16th, 2017, 07:54 AM
I loved how she handled herself, AND how she twigged guardian was olson, but i STILL can't figure out has she twigged on supergirl or not.. And if she has, WHY she is still playing so coy.


I think she saw how difficult it was for Kara when she confronted her about being Supergirl last season and decided to pretend she didn't know for Kara's benefit.

Linda06
May 16th, 2017, 11:30 AM
I LOVE CAT GRANT. I've missed her and her great advice and sassyness. Teri Hatcher is doing a great job as the villian. But leave my Lena alone. She's been through enough already, and if you want to get your frat boy son a wife look somewhere else. Lena would eat him for breakfast. She'd want a real man. Not some misogynistic idiot. She's smarter than that. But really, does Lillian actually still believe Lena doesn't know who Supergirl is? Of course she knows, and if the writers actually try and spin it that she doesn't know? Well they would be the dumbest writers on the planet after everything we've seen and heard this season. Surely they wouldn't dumb Lena down so much so they can try convince us she doesn't know.

The Alex/Maggie scenes were boring, so didn't really pay much attention to it mostly. But will Alex's refusal to follow orders finally catch up with her? She got away with almost betraying the DEO, now the President is directly involved I don't think J'onn can protect her from the fall-out

But badass Lena, dang that woman is scarily calm when in danger. I vote she wears red all the time from now on :D

Best things about the ep. Cat, Lena and Rhea :D I could have watched those 3 for the whole ep. The Presidents face though when Cat went off on Rhea though :lol: Priceless

garhkal
May 16th, 2017, 02:33 PM
But will Alex's refusal to follow orders finally catch up with her? She got away with almost betraying the DEO, now the President is directly involved I don't think J'onn can protect her from the fall-out


If like last time when she let daddy go, she gets away with it, i am DONE with this show. I AM SICK to death of people that are supposed to be the good guys, breaking laws, disobeying rules/orders and such and CONTINUALLY getting away with it..

jelgate
May 16th, 2017, 02:38 PM
I LOVE CAT GRANT. I've missed her and her great advice and sassyness. Teri Hatcher is doing a great job as the villian. But leave my Lena alone. She's been through enough already, and if you want to get your frat boy son a wife look somewhere else. Lena would eat him for breakfast. She'd want a real man. Not some misogynistic idiot. She's smarter than that. But really, does Lillian actually still believe Lena doesn't know who Supergirl is? Of course she knows, and if the writers actually try and spin it that she doesn't know? Well they would be the dumbest writers on the planet after everything we've seen and heard this season. Surely they wouldn't dumb Lena down so much so they can try convince us she doesn't know.

The Alex/Maggie scenes were boring, so didn't really pay much attention to it mostly. But will Alex's refusal to follow orders finally catch up with her? She got away with almost betraying the DEO, now the President is directly involved I don't think J'onn can protect her from the fall-out

But badass Lena, dang that woman is scarily calm when in danger. I vote she wears red all the time from now on :D

Best things about the ep. Cat, Lena and Rhea :D I could have watched those 3 for the whole ep. The Presidents face though when Cat went off on Rhea though :lol: Priceless

I think you are letting your dislike for Mon-El make up labels that aren't there

Linda06
May 16th, 2017, 03:40 PM
If like last time when she let daddy go, she gets away with it, i am DONE with this show. I AM SICK to death of people that are supposed to be the good guys, breaking laws, disobeying rules/orders and such and CONTINUALLY getting away with it..

Kinda like how the flash messes with the timeline constantly screwing up everyone's lives in the process and still thinks yes the good guy, the hero


I think you are letting your dislike for Mon-El make up labels that aren't there

Not really. He's a fraud, a liar, a coward, egotistical, doesn't trust or respect Kara. Is not a hero, even if he thinks he is. Doesn't see any problems with objectivity women. Is jealous and possessive. Not the kind of person I'd want any young woman to be in a relationship with. And he doesn't listen to her. I'd like them if they had to give Kara a romantic interest, a man that is respectful, kind and trusts her and someone she can trust and respect in return. I feel sorry for her that she got stuck with him

jelgate
May 16th, 2017, 04:24 PM
If half of that stuff was true, he wouldn't turn his back on his people

Infinite-Possibilities
May 16th, 2017, 08:45 PM
Wow, I tried watching this episode and I was just not able to get all the way through Cat Grant's reintroduction scene. The character grates on me that much. I was actually getting into the episode and she killed it my interest dead almost instantly.

garhkal
May 16th, 2017, 10:29 PM
Kinda like how the flash messes with the timeline constantly screwing up everyone's lives in the process and still thinks yes the good guy, the hero


And didn't the speed force try to dick him over FOR doing just that? So he DID face repercussions from it.. THat's what i am saying. I am sick of these 'heroes' doing wrong/breaking oaths/disobeying orders etc, and just keeping on getting away with it scott free..

Linda06
May 16th, 2017, 11:32 PM
And didn't the speed force try to dick him over FOR doing just that? So he DID face repercussions from it.. THat's what i am saying. I am sick of these 'heroes' doing wrong/breaking oaths/disobeying orders etc, and just keeping on getting away with it scott free..

Yet he's still messing with the timeline. Barry has done more damage than the villains have ever done.

But that really grated on me that Alex got away with almost betraying the DEO. She still defied orders and nothing happened to her, and to make matters worse Maggie encouraged her to go rogue

Linda06
May 16th, 2017, 11:35 PM
If half of that stuff was true, he wouldn't turn his back on his people

His first instinct was to run away to another planet when his parents appeared. He ran away and left his people to die and lied about the whole thing to Kara for months only admitting it when he had no other option. How can anyone trust someone like that when lying comes so easy to them. He didn't even feel guilty about it

Annoyed
May 17th, 2017, 04:27 AM
Kinda like how the flash messes with the timeline constantly screwing up everyone's lives in the process and still thinks yes the good guy, the hero



Not really. He's a fraud, a liar, a coward, egotistical, doesn't trust or respect Kara. Is not a hero, even if he thinks he is. Doesn't see any problems with objectivity women. Is jealous and possessive. Not the kind of person I'd want any young woman to be in a relationship with. And he doesn't listen to her. I'd like them if they had to give Kara a romantic interest, a man that is respectful, kind and trusts her and someone she can trust and respect in return. I feel sorry for her that she got stuck with himWell, the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree. And that's a mighty twisted tree on his mother's side.

Linda06
May 17th, 2017, 04:46 AM
42191

My favourite scene. Lena sauntering past them to get the gun, then calm as you like. BANG. Then she swaggers away

jelgate
May 17th, 2017, 05:37 AM
His first instinct was to run away to another planet when his parents appeared. He ran away and left his people to die and lied about the whole thing to Kara for months only admitting it when he had no other option. How can anyone trust someone like that when lying comes so easy to them. He didn't even feel guilty about it

So you have never done anything that you are ashamed of telling other people? Afraid that it will make them hate you? Lying is part of being human. We all lie to people. Reasons are just as important as lying

Linda06
May 17th, 2017, 06:38 AM
So you have never done anything that you are ashamed of telling other people? Afraid that it will make them hate you? Lying is part of being human. We all lie to people. Reasons are just as important as lying

It's the fact he lied about everything about himself, for months. Never felt guilty or ashamed about it. Didn't even see what the big deal was until he realised he was in danger of losing Kara. At the end of the day he didn't trust or respect Kara. Can any relationship survive when there's no trust? He lies so easily, how can anyone trust someone like that not to lie about something so big again? I know I'd find it hard to trust them after all that

jelgate
May 17th, 2017, 06:44 AM
That's complete BS. He liked about his upbringing because he was ashamed. But if you want to play that card , Kara doesn't truly trust him or a lot of people in that matter in how she thinks her way is the right way.

pjt
May 17th, 2017, 10:40 AM
But will Alex's refusal to follow orders finally catch up with her? She got away with almost betraying the DEO, now the President is directly involved I don't think J'onn can protect her from the fall-out


You must be very bored of the show if you're this keen of getting rid of the lead character.
I have to disappoint you, but your ploy to kill everybody but Lena Luthor won't make it The Luthor show.

garhkal
May 17th, 2017, 01:10 PM
Yet he's still messing with the timeline. Barry has done more damage than the villains have ever done.


And even after promising to not do it again, we see him DOING JUST THAT in this ep...

Linda06
May 18th, 2017, 12:06 AM
That's complete BS. He liked about his upbringing because he was ashamed. But if you want to play that card , Kara doesn't truly trust him or a lot of people in that matter in how she thinks her way is the right way.

I liked Kara last season, but this season it's like her growth and development didn't happen. Did they press the reset button when they moved to CW?

Sad thing is I actually liked Mon-El, but the writers made it harder and harder to continue to like him


You must be very bored of the show if you're this keen of getting rid of the lead character.
I have to disappoint you, but your ploy to kill everybody but Lena Luthor won't make it The Luthor show.

Huh. I didn't think I said I wanted rid of the lead character. Supergirl wouldn't be Supergirl any more if they got rid of Supergirl/Kara. What I'd like to see is the writers getting their fingers out their butt and getting the show back on track. Season 1 was fun, but this season imo has turned into a mess like they don't know what they want to do. The only thing I like at this point is Lena.

I'll give season 3 a chance to fix the show but if I feel it's going in the same vein as this season then I can't see how I'll stick with the show, even if Katie McGrath is in it

pjt
May 18th, 2017, 01:11 AM
Huh. I didn't think I said I wanted rid of the lead character. Supergirl wouldn't be Supergirl any more if they got rid of Supergirl/Kara.

Yet you're berating Alex for not killing Kara?

jelgate
May 18th, 2017, 04:54 AM
I liked Kara last season, but this season it's like her growth and development didn't happen. Did they press the reset button when they moved to CW?

Sad thing is I actually liked Mon-El, but the writers made it harder and harder to continue to like him



Huh. I didn't think I said I wanted rid of the lead character. Supergirl wouldn't be Supergirl any more if they got rid of Supergirl/Kara. What I'd like to see is the writers getting their fingers out their butt and getting the show back on track. Season 1 was fun, but this season imo has turned into a mess like they don't know what they want to do. The only thing I like at this point is Lena.

I'll give season 3 a chance to fix the show but if I feel it's going in the same vein as this season then I can't see how I'll stick with the show, even if Katie McGrath is in it

It's called being flawed Linda;)

Linda06
May 18th, 2017, 11:17 AM
Yet you're berating Alex for not killing Kara?

Obviously I don't want Supergirl to die but what I am saying is that there should be consequences to defying orders, especially defying the president herself. Alex almost betrayed the DEO, went rogue and now defied direct orders and she hasn't been reprimanded in any way. Even if it's a suspension or demotion when this is all over. Hell I'd even take a mark against her in her records. Actions have consequences. Kara had to pay a price when she posted that blog. She lost her job because of it. Actions have consequences


It's called being flawed Linda;)

There's being flawed and there's writing him to be a douche :p Maybe if they gave him a redemption arc it would have worked, but half the time he acts like an ass who doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself, that feels no guilt or remorse. I haven't read the comics but a few folks have said the character was so much better in the comics than on the show

garhkal
May 18th, 2017, 12:47 PM
Obviously I don't want Supergirl to die but what I am saying is that there should be consequences to defying orders, especially defying the president herself. Alex almost betrayed the DEO, went rogue and now defied direct orders and she hasn't been reprimanded in any way. Even if it's a suspension or demotion when this is all over. Hell I'd even take a mark against her in her records. Actions have consequences. Kara had to pay a price when she posted that blog. She lost her job because of it. Actions have consequences

As someone military, IMO She should be put through "What ever the DEO's version" of a courts marshal would be..

jelgate
May 18th, 2017, 01:36 PM
Obviously I don't want Supergirl to die but what I am saying is that there should be consequences to defying orders, especially defying the president herself. Alex almost betrayed the DEO, went rogue and now defied direct orders and she hasn't been reprimanded in any way. Even if it's a suspension or demotion when this is all over. Hell I'd even take a mark against her in her records. Actions have consequences. Kara had to pay a price when she posted that blog. She lost her job because of it. Actions have consequences



There's being flawed and there's writing him to be a douche :p Maybe if they gave him a redemption arc it would have worked, but half the time he acts like an ass who doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself, that feels no guilt or remorse. I haven't read the comics but a few folks have said the character was so much better in the comics than on the show

That's BS. You would hate Mon-El regardless. If Mon-El cared about no one but himself he would never defy his mother

Linda06
May 18th, 2017, 02:46 PM
That's BS. You would hate Mon-El regardless. If Mon-El cared about no one but himself he would never defy his mother

He cares about himself and what he wants, and at this moment in time he wants Kara. He had a chance to stop his mother but didn't. He only wants to be a hero to spend time with Kara. He doesn't care about the citizens of NC. He was ready to run away to another planet when his parents showed up leaving Earth to their fate. That's not how heroes react. Kara would have sacrificed herself to save everybody at the end of season 1. Something Mon-El would never so. He didn't think his lie was that big of a deal until he finally realised that he could lose Kara. I'm not sure he still realises how bad a lie it was. Like I said before, if Kara found love with someone who trusted and respected her then I'd be happy with that. Unfortunately with the way they've written Mon-El that's not him. He doesn't trust, respect or listens to her most of the time.

Unfortunately imo he's not the only character they've screwed up this season, Alex is like a love sick puppy this season and don't even get me started on James. I'm hoping they've try to at least fix some of the problems on season 3. I'll watch the first few eps of s3 but if I feel it's basically going the same way I don't think I'll be able to finish the season. This season has been incredibly frustrating, I kept watching and hoping it would get back on track to no avail. Only time will tell. Btw this is all just how I have seen this season going, I know some folks like this season but I've missed the feel it had in s1. The Danvers sisters, the superfiriends, Cat Grant (which wasn't their fault as Callista Flockhart couldn't make the move to Vancouver which is perfectly understandable), that's partly the reason why I hope the don't turn Lena evil, other than it being so predictable. With Cat and Lucy both not being there and Alex spending every waking moment she isn't working with Maggie I think Kara needs a female friend so I'd love to see this develop into a great friendship against all odds. They have awesome chemistry together. Of course Katie McGrath would have great chemistry with a potted plant :lol:

jelgate
May 18th, 2017, 03:56 PM
That is more BS. He wanted to run away because he was scared. Not the wisest choice but I can understand a person for afraid of his past. People have a tendency to focus on your crimes and not your change. Look how Kara wrote him off because he was from Daxium. As for his mother, it's not different than Kara reluctant to capture her father when it was proven he worked for Cadmus

Linda06
May 19th, 2017, 01:44 AM
Which is why he'll never be a hero. Heroes don't run away and leave others to their fate. As for Kara, initially she was critical of him being Daxamite, but then she gave him a chance, tried to help him and he threw that in her face. Once they entered into a romantic relationship he should hsve told her who he was. He didn't have to go into detail about how he escaped but should hsve told her who he was at least. His mother, couldn't he have shot her in the leg to disable her?

jelgate
May 19th, 2017, 05:49 AM
Of course they do. If you read the comic books several heroes have ran away. Spiderman comes to top on head. Look at Sara in the Arrowverse who was an assassin before becoming a hero. I don't disagree from a logical point of view he should have told Kara. From an emotional human point of view I see why he kept the secret of being ashamed. I think no matter where he shot Rhea would be bad because of their vulnerability to lead