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GateWorld
April 14th, 2017, 08:54 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="500" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/doctor-who/s10/the-pilot/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/the-pilot-300x225.jpg" WIDTH="225" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">DOCTOR WHO - SEASON 36 (10)</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 3601 (1001)</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Bill Pots' life is about to change forever when a professor at the university where she works -- who goes by the name "the Doctor" -- takes her under his wing. But when a friend introduces Bill to a strange puddle of water, she becomes the target of an alien intelligence.</DIV>
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rushy
April 15th, 2017, 11:59 AM
I thought it was alright. Very enthusiastic and charming. But Nardole is still underused and the storyline was VERY throwaway... like, why couldn't the Doctor have just figured this all out when he first ran into the water as opposed to leaping from one side of the universe to another(and potentially leaving the Earth in danger!)?

Annoyed
April 15th, 2017, 06:39 PM
The new companion has a decided Rose feel about her. Which might not be a bad thing, I rather liked Rose.

tomstone
April 15th, 2017, 07:32 PM
The new companion has a decided Rose feel about her. Which might not be a bad thing, I rather liked Rose.

Completly agree. I like her already, though its notable that she does not quite fit with our current Doctor. I am very happy though that River is still being rememberd by him and I cant wait to see how his next personality is going to be. I would like him to turn a little more light hearted again. I wonder though, what could have happend to him and what did he promise. Most importantly to who?

cosmichobo
April 16th, 2017, 12:46 AM
What's in the vault? Who was in the puddle?

I like Bill, but hope she settles down a bit. Reminded me of Donna more than Rose...

A few Easter Eggs -

On the Doctor's desk - not just River Song's photo - also his granddaughter and first companion, Susan, not seen since The Five Doctors (1983).
The "Mary Celeste" sign seen near the vault - the Doctor (and a bunch of Daleks) landed on the mysterious ship of that name in The Chase (1965). Also... there's rumours the Celestial Toymaker (1966) may be appearing this season...
A girl with a star in her eye... vaguely reminiscent of "Lynda with a y" from Bad Wolf (2005) referring to one of the game shows on Satellite 5...
"Out of Order" sign on the TARDIS door - again back in the b&w era, Hartnell put one on the door of the TARDIS in The War Machines (1966).

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NB02RAPjw2c/WJHrIQTF48I/AAAAAAAAA-8/BkormLwm8P03s3wKM7gyVtWM9-b7RZxowCLcB/s320/The%2BWar%2BMachines%2B6.jpg

Oh, and talking of Dodo / War Machines... and because my brain kept hitting me throughout watching The Pilot...

Dodo Chaplet:
42156

Bill Potts:
http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2017313/rs_600x600-170413205335-600x600.doctor-who-pearl-mackie-lp.41317.jpg

rkgardner2003
April 16th, 2017, 05:29 AM
I like Bill, a breath of fresh air for me. She also reminds me of Rose. I was reminded of The Waters of Mars, creepy.

Teddybrown
April 16th, 2017, 06:47 AM
What was the point of the daleks? Good episode though. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

cosmichobo
April 16th, 2017, 08:52 AM
Oh - and those chaps with the white dreds were the Movellans from Destiny of the Daleks...

I expect to see Heather again...

tomstone
April 16th, 2017, 12:52 PM
What was the point of the daleks? Good episode though. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

I dont know who that contract is with, but the Daleks HAVE to appear every season. So I would say they tried to get them out of the way fast since they had to do it.

cosmichobo
April 16th, 2017, 01:50 PM
Terry Nation created the Daleks, and as per setup at the time, thus owned copyright over them (not the BBC). Since his passing, his estate therefore manage them.

When the new series was announced in 03, the big Q was whether the Daleks would return... and it became a big legal issue evidently... (one side effect for instance being that the ABC in Australia, which was part way into a screening of "every episode ever", had to stop showing Dalek stories)

But - whether or not they are contractually obliged to use them is up for debate. Moffat kind of denied the idea a while ago.

SeaBee
April 16th, 2017, 02:39 PM
After last season I was approaching this ep with a sense of foreboding but I found myself engrossed. Like others I found Bill to have a slightly Rose Tyler feel to her character but that didn't put me off.
The story was enjoyable and PC seemed to be actually enjoying the role, something I felt was lacking in the last season.

cosmichobo
April 16th, 2017, 05:34 PM
I can't help but think that Capaldi must feel really gypped. He lands his dream role - much as Tennant did - and gets lumbered with one season that questions the Doctor's motives, and then one that focuses heavily on the companion... followed by a year of nothing... and to top it off, possibly, pushed out by the brass who want a Tennant clone...

maneth
April 16th, 2017, 10:22 PM
I like Bill, although I wonder what the story behind her masculine (nick)name is.

A good episode overall. Not excellent but by no means bad. I hope Bill settles a bit. I really hope they get rid of Bill's foster mom quickly, or at least avoid her. Rose's mom was bad enough, I would prefer not to revisit the mother hen episodes.

pjt
April 19th, 2017, 04:03 AM
What was the point of the daleks? Good episode though. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

The Doctor was curious, if the Daleks could destroy the Puddle thingy. They couldn't.

cosmichobo
April 19th, 2017, 05:44 AM
Frankly I would not be shocked if the Daleks' inclusion was deliberate bait for the fans, just to get a trailer that looked interesting.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
April 19th, 2017, 10:45 AM
I like Bill, although I wonder what the story behind her masculine (nick)name is.

At least part of the reason is a reference to the first Doctor, William Hartnell (Bill) and his wife... Heather.

This episode was full of references to classic Who..

GodAtum
April 19th, 2017, 11:21 AM
i cant believe it's been a year (i thought the last season was in 2016)! The coming up section at the end was interesting.

Gatefan1976
April 19th, 2017, 11:25 AM
At least part of the reason is a reference to the first Doctor, William Hartnell (Bill) and his wife... Heather.

This episode was full of references to classic Who..

Not just classic, but specifically S1 Who. Good reason to call it "pilot" perhaps?

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
April 19th, 2017, 11:38 AM
So, the Vault..

Something from the First Doctor in there, maybe?

Gatefan1976
April 19th, 2017, 07:34 PM
Maybe it's missy, and the master breaks her out!

cosmichobo
April 20th, 2017, 12:27 AM
I was thinking - something getting out, rather than someone getting in... But who knows... :}

I wonder if something from S1 of the new series will make a reappearance...

Ian-S
April 21st, 2017, 10:07 AM
Maybe it's missy, and the master breaks her out!

Or vice verca.

Regarding the daleks, it's to do with merchandising, the BBC sell millions of the things a year but there's some deal about they can only do it if the Daleks are in the series, otherwise the rights to merchandising revert to the family estate.

It's not so much a 'daleks must appear in every series' but rather 'if you (bbc) want to make millions from merchandising, you need to include them".

Iirc

wizelf
April 24th, 2017, 08:59 PM
I felt that this episode was a reboot within the own series. The original Doctor Who was really meant to teach and inspire curiosity. This had all of those elements and they did a pretty good job at re-introducing a less dark Capaldi. There's of course the overarching story arc, but they did a good job tying in Susan and River - like a circle, in which a new route will be taken. I don't know, it just felt that way and I'm glad the sonic glasses are gone!

P-90_177
April 27th, 2017, 06:50 PM
I felt that this episode was a reboot within the own series. The original Doctor Who was really meant to teach and inspire curiosity. This had all of those elements and they did a pretty good job at re-introducing a less dark Capaldi. There's of course the overarching story arc, but they did a good job tying in Susan and River - like a circle, in which a new route will be taken. I don't know, it just felt that way and I'm glad the sonic glasses are gone!

I'm actually rewatching series 9 and I am really liking the Sonic Sunglasses this time round. They were cool. I'd actually like it if he still had them alongside the screwdriver.

Gatefan1976
April 27th, 2017, 09:48 PM
I liked the sonic shades, and the guitar. To be honest, I'm less fond of the Screwdriver simply because it has been turned into a magic wand. I actually think they missed a good opportunity when they used the screwdriver, rather than the TARDIS -itself- to run the program to save Gallifrey in Day of the Doctor. Why did the TARDIS run off with the doctor? Because the TARDIS knew about the program, not the Hartnell doctor.

pscard
April 28th, 2017, 08:37 AM
I like Bill, although I wonder what the story behind her masculine (nick)name is.

A good episode overall. Not excellent but by no means bad. I hope Bill settles a bit. I really hope they get rid of Bill's foster mom quickly, or at least avoid her. Rose's mom was bad enough, I would prefer not to revisit the mother hen episodes.

It's short for 'Billie' and is the feminine version of 'Bill'. The name means "determined protector".

I like her character too, but found it difficult to understand Pearl Mackie when she delivered her lines. She spoke very fast and at a lower tone.

I'm also glad they made The Doctor more likeable, akin to the earlier Doctors and David Tennant's interpretation.

P-90_177
April 28th, 2017, 03:42 PM
It's short for 'Billie' and is the feminine version of 'Bill'. The name means "determined protector".

I like her character too, but found it difficult to understand Pearl Mackie when she delivered her lines. She spoke very fast and at a lower tone.

I'm also glad they made The Doctor more likeable, akin to the earlier Doctors and David Tennant's interpretation.



He was still likeable in series 9. It was only 8 where he was a grouch.

maneth
May 6th, 2017, 07:02 PM
It's short for 'Billie' and is the feminine version of 'Bill'. The name means "determined protector".

I like her character too, but found it difficult to understand Pearl Mackie when she delivered her lines. She spoke very fast and at a lower tone.

I'm also glad they made The Doctor more likeable, akin to the earlier Doctors and David Tennant's interpretation.



Thanks, I like that. Of course, I must wonder if the name has any connection to Rose/Billie Piper.

Laura Dove
May 7th, 2017, 02:02 AM
As far as I know, the reference is to William Hartnell, who played the First Doctor. I've read that his wife's name was Heather, too, which can't be a coincidence either. :)

Edit: Indeed it was already mentioned it in the thread: https://forum.gateworld.net/threads/92127-The-Pilot-(3601-1001)?p=14570176&viewfull=1#post14570176