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GateWorld
March 8th, 2017, 10:00 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="500" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/the-flash/s3/abra-kadabra/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/abra-kadabra-300x225.jpg" WIDTH="225" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">THE FLASH - SEASON THREE</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 318</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">When Gypsy arrives Barry learns that the villain who is stealing advanced technology from all over the city -- who calls himself Abra Kadabra -- is from the sixty-fourth century. And after their mutual enemy is apprehended, things are complicated when Abra Kadabra offers to trade Savitar's identity for his freedom. Meanwhile, Julian has Caitlyn's life in his hands after an explosion.</DIV>
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Jeffer
March 29th, 2017, 07:28 PM
I really enjoyed this episode I guess that's how killer frost gets loose. Gonna suck to have to wait till April 25th for the next episode tho. I was kinda hoping Barry would go to the 64th Century with kadabra. I'm not a huge fan of the actor they got to play kadabra he's been in a few things I've seen and I just really don't like him for some reason.

The entire episode I was like where is HR. I'm surprised that Cisco hasn't came up with something to shield Caitlin's heart so it doesn't freeze and she doesn't become evil when using her powers.

Teddybrown
March 30th, 2017, 03:08 AM
Were the DC writers in LOTR mood this week? Another nice quote from Cisco, "You shall not pass!"

garhkal
March 30th, 2017, 11:54 AM
I really enjoyed this episode I guess that's how killer frost gets loose. Gonna suck to have to wait till April 25th for the next episode tho. I was kinda hoping Barry would go to the 64th Century with kadabra. I'm not a huge fan of the actor they got to play kadabra he's been in a few things I've seen and I just really don't like him for some reason.

The entire episode I was like where is HR. I'm surprised that Cisco hasn't came up with something to shield Caitlin's heart so it doesn't freeze and she doesn't become evil when using her powers.

I loved Abra Kadambra.. My only gripe is if he was so far from the future, HOW did he say Barry was one of his biggest foes?? Wouldn't barry have been LONG dead by then?

Jeffer
March 30th, 2017, 02:13 PM
I loved Abra Kadambra.. My only gripe is if he was so far from the future, HOW did he say Barry was one of his biggest foes?? Wouldn't barry have been LONG dead by then?

Depending on how much time traveling he's done he could have seen him.

aretood2
March 30th, 2017, 04:33 PM
I liked the episode except for the stupid "We are going to show you Savitar's identity....NOT" thing. We already did this villain identity thing with Zoom. Why do we need to repeat that again? And we are 18 episodes in and still know very little about Savitar and his story. That's what's wrong with this season that I couldn't quite understand until now. We did two mystery identity seasons already, did we really need a third?

garhkal
March 30th, 2017, 09:49 PM
Depending on how much time traveling he's done he could have seen him.

But if he's been time traveling a lot, why did he need all that tech to build a machine to get out of there?

Jeffer
March 31st, 2017, 01:28 AM
But if he's been time traveling a lot, why did he need all that tech to build a machine to get out of there?

Not sure maybe he broke his time machine when he got to our time. From what gypsy said it seems like he's been in this time for a while.

garhkal
March 31st, 2017, 01:17 PM
Also, how does he dimentionsally jump around?

Infinite-Possibilities
April 8th, 2017, 04:05 PM
Man, his powers really do only work when it's convenient for the story, huh? :rolleyes:

Linda06
April 9th, 2017, 11:23 AM
I'm really starting to dislike team flash. They are supposed to be heroes protecting central city? Well start bloody acting like heroes. How many more people are they gonna risk to try protect Iris? Barry already screwed up the timeline because of his selfishness. Now Joe almost got Caitlyn killed. Now they turned her into the thing she hated the most. Heroes don't sacrifice people to save other people. They are far from being heroes

garhkal
April 9th, 2017, 03:55 PM
That's a valid point. They do seem to spend more time acting like bad guys all to protect one of their own..

jelgate
April 9th, 2017, 04:22 PM
I'm really starting to dislike team flash. They are supposed to be heroes protecting central city? Well start bloody acting like heroes. How many more people are they gonna risk to try protect Iris? Barry already screwed up the timeline because of his selfishness. Now Joe almost got Caitlyn killed. Now they turned her into the thing she hated the most. Heroes don't sacrifice people to save other people. They are far from being heroes

It's called being human. Even good people will harm others to save loved ones according to history

Infinite-Possibilities
April 9th, 2017, 06:27 PM
One thing I also meant to mention was that this guy's performance and speech pattern reminded me a bit of Floki from Vikings. He seemed to be doing a vaguely similar "high pitched giddiness" type of thing when playing that character.


It's called being human. Even good people will harm others to save loved ones according to history

I generally agree here, although I couldn't help but notice over the season that Barry seems to often be seriously considering questionable actions that have provide little to no tangible benefit to saving Iris. I guess that sort of makes sense with him being in a desperate situation looking for any answers, but he he feels like he wants to change things just to prove he can change the future, then asking Iris to get a totally different haircut is can accomplish that better than letting a bad guy go.

Linda06
April 12th, 2017, 11:19 AM
That's why they'll never really be heroes. They will risk everything and anyone to save the people they love, consequences be damned. Barry changing the timeline set in motion everything that happened since

jelgate
April 12th, 2017, 06:35 PM
It must be a nice view from your high horse? Linda. You seem to make a generalization. Barry didn't purposefully risk those lives with Flashpoint but even the best people are going to struggle with letting their loved ones die

aretood2
April 13th, 2017, 02:03 PM
Flashpoint...that was a comic thing, wasn't it? It's my understanding that the comics aren't that much different than the show. I mean "Save the town or save your loved one" has always been a trope.

Linda06
April 13th, 2017, 02:07 PM
It's nothing to do with being on a high horse. But would you destroy a whole town and everyone in it to save a loved one?

That's why humans should never have these kinds of powers. Humans are weak. Thankfully for us these things don't exist in real life. We're already destroying the planet with the things at our disposable as it is

jelgate
April 13th, 2017, 04:16 PM
Everything looks easier to say in hindsight

garhkal
April 13th, 2017, 10:10 PM
It's nothing to do with being on a high horse. But would you destroy a whole town and everyone in it to save a loved one?

Not just no, but hell no. BUT i don't have a wife/kids. And there are some parents i know who would say "Hell yes, what ever i need to do to save XYZ is good"

aretood2
April 14th, 2017, 04:44 PM
Not just no, but hell no. BUT i don't have a wife/kids. And there are some parents i know who would say "Hell yes, what ever i need to do to save XYZ is good"

My philosophy is that you truly won't know until you are put into that situation.

garhkal
April 14th, 2017, 08:30 PM
My philosophy is that you truly won't know until you are put into that situation.

Too true. I knew one guy when i was stationed in Guam who kept on laughing at all the schmucks (his words) who broke into places for drugs (medicinal) for their kids, so bang off to jail they went after being caught finally. Making the financial woes that family were having even WORSE now..
He kept saying "i will be damned if i ever got that way where i would willfully break the law for my kids sake and deprive him of a dad"..
THen i heard 3 years later.. he's in jail, CAUSE he was breaking the law (speeding 95 on a 55 road, and blowing through light after light after stop sign etc, to get his kid to hospital, even though all he had was a 101 deg fever, which was just the common cold, nothing life threatening)...

garhkal
April 14th, 2017, 08:30 PM
PS there might have been something mroe to the story than just the speeding and blowing through lights that landed him in jail. But that's all i heard.

aretood2
April 15th, 2017, 09:44 AM
I've seen a few people reverse just like that...grant it in less extreme ways. One day they swear that they'll never ever ever get married and the next day I'm at their wedding type of thing.

I'd like to think that heroes would be heroes and sacrifice all of their own to save the day and never risk the day for the sake of their own. Buuuutttttt, let's be honest here. Would we do that? Would anyone? And as I mentioned, the comics do explore things like this. That's why I disagree with linda, the shows are just following in the comics' footsteps...although in very clumsy ways at times.