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GateWorld
March 2nd, 2017, 08:35 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="500" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/the-flash/s3/duet/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/duet-300x225.jpg" WIDTH="225" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">THE FLASH - SEASON THREE</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 317</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">After Supergirl's friends bring her to Earth-1 in a coma, Barry soon finds himself whammied by the same villain -- who puts the two heroes into a musical fantasy where the only way to escape is to sing and dance their way to the end of the script.</DIV>
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tomstone
March 21st, 2017, 06:37 PM
That was a pretty fun Episode. Only thing that angerd me was the back and forth with the ring. So Irisīs rejecting it at first was pointless.

garhkal
March 21st, 2017, 11:49 PM
What back and fourth with the ring.. But i agree, that was a funny as hell episode. I loved the 'duet-turned-trio between barrowman, martin and Garber. I knew some of them could sing, but i was also wowed by Winn and Cisco!!

tomstone
March 22nd, 2017, 06:25 AM
What back and fourth with the ring.. But i agree, that was a funny as hell episode. I loved the 'duet-turned-trio between barrowman, martin and Garber. I knew some of them could sing, but i was also wowed by Winn and Cisco!!

With back and forth I mean Iris rejecting the Ring and blowing it up saying, that their relationship will forever be tainted. 2 Episodes later she is fully okay with it again. That back and forth.

Linda06
March 22nd, 2017, 11:13 AM
Why did I have to watch this ep? I have to go bleach my brain now

pjt
March 22nd, 2017, 12:07 PM
OMFG! This was bad. And I don't mean the singing and the fun in the "virtual" reality! I mean the all relationship cramming down throats stuff. Well, Flash's been always bad in this particular area, but now they have multiplied the worst of Supergirl with the worst of Flash. Why exactly?

garhkal
March 22nd, 2017, 12:28 PM
True the pushing of "Love conquors all" crap was way too overt. BUT I actually loved the singing.

pjt
March 22nd, 2017, 12:46 PM
BUT I actually loved the singing.

And that's YouTube clips are for. I'm actually listening to them at the moment. They are freakishly talented. Really. But the episode, as an episode, was still a disaster.

Linda06
March 22nd, 2017, 04:59 PM
OMFG! This was bad. And I don't mean the singing and the fun in the "virtual" reality! I mean the all relationship cramming down throats stuff. Well, Flash's been always bad in this particular area, but now they have multiplied the worst of Supergirl with the worst of Flash. Why exactly?

The worst of both worlds. I wanted to throw up.

Infinite-Possibilities
March 22nd, 2017, 06:18 PM
Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of Glee or of Broadway musicals, which is apparently who this episode is very specifically aimed at, but I really did not like this episode. Then again, this just made me wish I was watching Mayham of the Music Miester instead.

That was actually a way cooler depiction and set of songs. The plot and character behavior made no sense here, even within the context of being trapped in a shared dream about being characters in a musical. I guess the original appearance of the Music Miester didn't make much sense either, but at least that sort of fit with the tone of the show it was a part of.

I also really hated what they did with the Music Miester here. He knows everything about them, seems nearly omnipotent, but he is never explained. So I guess, he's just supposedly... God or something? He seemed so annoying. And the fact that he gets no comeuppance in this story was even more irritating to me.

I mean this version doesn't even make sense. His power isn't even necessarily about music. And "The Music Miester" isn't even a name he gave himself. It's just what Barry called him, but then they just all assume it's his name.

Were we supposed to buy that they feel grateful to him for "teaching them a lesson?" He deliberately nearly got them killed. And that cheesy ending, my God. Flash has always been a pretty cheesy show, and Supergirl even more so, but this was above and beyond either of them. It's like they felt they needed to combine the cheesiness of both together for this crossover.

That ending had more cheese than the "Cheese Roll Call." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXGtWK-kTEM)

EDIT: Oh and before I forget, what was the deal with Barry talking crap about Superman? Superman's someone who he has never met. That really made him seem like a jerk. I didn't see the two episodes of Supergirl with Clark in them, but does Kara really resent him that much?

garhkal
March 22nd, 2017, 10:24 PM
Funny, maybe its cause i liked glee, even with its hamfisted pushing of the pro LGBTQURS agenda, that i enjoyed this ep.

pjt
March 22nd, 2017, 11:03 PM
i liked glee, even with its hamfisted pushing of the pro LGBTQURS agenda

You see, that's how it starts. Then in no time someone receives its toaster.

tomstone
March 23rd, 2017, 06:33 AM
Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of Glee or of Broadway musicals, which is apparently who this episode is very specifically aimed at, but I really did not like this episode. Then again, this just made me wish I was watching Mayham of the Music Miester instead.

That was actually a way cooler depiction and set of songs. The plot and character behavior made no sense here, even within the context of being trapped in a shared dream about being characters in a musical. I guess the original appearance of the Music Miester didn't make much sense either, but at least that sort of fit with the tone of the show it was a part of.

I also really hated what they did with the Music Miester here. He knows everything about them, seems nearly omnipotent, but he is never explained. So I guess, he's just supposedly... God or something? He seemed so annoying. And the fact that he gets no comeuppance in this story was even more irritating to me.

I mean this version doesn't even make sense. His power isn't even necessarily about music. And "The Music Miester" isn't even a name he gave himself. It's just what Barry called him, but then they just all assume it's his name.

Were we supposed to buy that they feel grateful to him for "teaching them a lesson?" He deliberately nearly got them killed. And that cheesy ending, my God. Flash has always been a pretty cheesy show, and Supergirl even more so, but this was above and beyond either of them. It's like they felt they needed to combine the cheesiness of both together for this crossover.

That ending had more cheese than the "Cheese Roll Call." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXGtWK-kTEM)

EDIT: Oh and before I forget, what was the deal with Barry talking crap about Superman? Superman's someone who he has never met. That really made him seem like a jerk. I didn't see the two episodes of Supergirl with Clark in them, but does Kara really resent him that much?

I have to say this reminded me of Buffy "Once more with feeling". Only that I enjoyed the Songs in the Buffy Episode. :D

Infinite-Possibilities
March 23rd, 2017, 11:01 AM
You see, that's how it starts. Then in no time someone receives its toaster.

"Ellen" reference?

pjt
March 23rd, 2017, 11:56 AM
"Ellen" reference?

Well, she made it famous. But it's much much older than that.

aretood2
March 23rd, 2017, 01:57 PM
I was on the fence about this episode, but I think it worked out pretty well. I don't mind the Music Meister's nonesense. They could have done a bit better job fleshing out the mystery behind him into a Q-like vibe. But beyond that, it was a very fun episode to watch.

pjt
March 23rd, 2017, 02:37 PM
I loved the music part, and the virtual reality part too. It was the "love conquers all" part I didn't buy. "If you don't love your lying ass of a partner back, then you must die!" (Or in case of Iris, holding a grudge is lethal)

Jeffer
March 24th, 2017, 01:58 AM
This episode was pretty lame. However I don't watch supergirl and didn't know Jon jonzz was on it so seeing him was awesome.

garhkal
March 24th, 2017, 01:59 PM
I loved watching the reactions of team flash when jon 'morphed!

Booklover
March 24th, 2017, 03:41 PM
I enjoyed the singing and the dancing parts since I really like musicals. Barry was surprising good. I got to see Victor Garber in Damn Yankees so it was especially fun watching him here. It brought back good memories of seeing him perform in person.

As for the "romance" part of the episode: It was lame and pretty stupid. When Barry proposed to Iris again, she was all surprised and excited as if it were the first time it happened. Give me a break.

Linda06
March 25th, 2017, 09:00 AM
Seeing them all sing was fun, but the reason Meister done all this? So lame and I wanted to puke. Get a bloody better storyline and it could have been quite good. Mind you it doesn't help that the 2 pairings are the worst I've seen for a while and I couldn't really care less what happened to them.

Also Barry and Kara had more chemistry with each other than their significant others :lol:

Infinite-Possibilities
March 25th, 2017, 12:00 PM
I enjoyed the singing and the dancing parts since I really like musicals. Barry was surprising good. I got to see Victor Garber in Damn Yankees so it was especially fun watching him here. It brought back good memories of seeing him perform in person.

As for the "romance" part of the episode: It was lame and pretty stupid. When Barry proposed to Iris again, she was all surprised and excited as if it were the first time it happened. Give me a break.

Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought that was weird.

pjt
March 26th, 2017, 10:26 AM
Also Barry and Kara had more chemistry with each other than their significant others :lol:

Dang! When I say Melissa doesn't have any chemistry with guys I always forget the crossovers. Yes, you're right, these two are so great together. When Barry brought her ice cream to prove he's fast, she was very impressed, while James and Winn made very sour faces. :D

Linda06
March 26th, 2017, 01:01 PM
Dang! When I say Melissa doesn't have any chemistry with guys I always forget the crossovers. Yes, you're right, these two are so great together. When Barry brought her ice cream to prove he's fast, she was very impressed, while James and Winn made very sour faces. :D

Those two are great together, in a strictly platonic way :D I loved the crossover with all of them and Felicity was fangirling Supergirl and Flash was like "what about me" :lol:

garhkal
March 26th, 2017, 01:50 PM
Dang! When I say Melissa doesn't have any chemistry with guys I always forget the crossovers. Yes, you're right, these two are so great together. When Barry brought her ice cream to prove he's fast, she was very impressed, while James and Winn made very sour faces. :D

It did seem both in this ep, and the other flash/kara cross she had MORE chemistry with barry than she has for ANY of the 3 'beaus' she has gone through on SG..

Infinite-Possibilities
March 26th, 2017, 02:20 PM
Barry almost seems to forget about all his problems with Kara around. And I mean that in an almost cartoonishly dangerous way.

Back when he first met her he was trying to go faster so he would finally be able to defeat Zoom, who he had just learned was Jay. But once he got to Supergirl's universe, he didn't seem all that desperate to get back home and protect his friends.

And apparently here, his delight at musicals very quickly seemed to take priority over the fact that a bad guy had trapped him in a dangerous world and was running amok on his Earth.

pjt
March 30th, 2017, 01:35 AM
But at least he could finally propose to Kara. I mean Iris. Yes, Iris. Eye-rees. Iris.


(Priest: Repeat after me: I take thee Emily...
Ross: I take thee Rachel...)

Linda06
March 30th, 2017, 01:22 PM
But at least he could finally propose to Kara. I mean Iris. Yes, Iris. Eye-rees. Iris.


(Priest: Repeat after me: I take thee Emily...
Ross: I take thee Rachel...)

Boy do the arrowverse have the worse romantic relationships :rolleyes: Kara/Mon-El, Barry/Iris, and not forgetting Oliver/Felicity. At least they fixed thar mistake on Arrow and coincidentally Arrow started to improve once they cut back on the romances, Flash and Supergirl have become poorer since they focused on the romances so much

pjt
March 30th, 2017, 01:48 PM
Boy do the arrowverse have the worse romantic relationships :rolleyes: Kara/Mon-El, Barry/Iris, and not forgetting Oliver/Felicity. At least they fixed thar mistake on Arrow and coincidentally Arrow started to improve once they cut back on the romances,

I really didn't get why they needed the secret-kid-from-nowhere to break them up. It was so stupid it hurt. But at least Felicity was lucky enough to date a guy, so at least it wasn't a stray bullet. I mean... So gets shot and does not die. You know what I mean. :D

And don't get me started on Barry/Iris. Zero chemistry. Patty was okay, too bad they couldn't keep the actress.

But I actually stopped watching both shows before they went unbelievable stupid with the convoluted relationship twists, the convoluted indestructible villain twists turned me off before that. It was just not fun watching "super heroes" having their asses handed to them week by week while almost defeating the indestructible super villain.

garhkal
March 30th, 2017, 09:48 PM
Boy do the arrowverse have the worse romantic relationships :rolleyes: Kara/Mon-El, Barry/Iris, and not forgetting Oliver/Felicity. At least they fixed thar mistake on Arrow and coincidentally Arrow started to improve once they cut back on the romances, Flash and Supergirl have become poorer since they focused on the romances so much

And with Felicity's new man being killed by oli, i don't see them too getting back together..


And don't get me started on Barry/Iris. Zero chemistry. Patty was okay, too bad they couldn't keep the actress.

I also preferred Patty.. And really wish they could bring her back in.. AND KILL off iris!

aretood2
March 31st, 2017, 10:31 AM
And with Felicity's new man being killed by oli, i don't see them too getting back together..



I also preferred Patty.. And really wish they could bring her back in.. AND KILL off iris!

I think the problem with Iris is how they started it off with the whole "unrequited love" thing most commonly known as "friend zoning". That's what turned me off for the longest time with that pairing. But recently, I've started liking Iris now. I just wish they had her do more reporting, give her more agency of her own...which was another issue with early Iris.

garhkal
March 31st, 2017, 01:17 PM
I actually liked her reporter thinggy in S1-through early S3.. Recently though it seems like that side of her is no more..

aretood2
March 31st, 2017, 05:18 PM
I actually liked her reporter thinggy in S1-through early S3.. Recently though it seems like that side of her is no more..

She's quickly slipping back to just being the girlfriend, and that's a problem. Like I mentioned in Supergirl, simply being the significant other while being a main character hurts a character and dilutes the story. You're either the boyfriend/girlfriend and nothing else. Or you're your own character with motives, job, and plot and the boyfriend/girlfriend. You can't pretend to be more than just the main character's date when that's all you are. Don't know if I'm making sense here >.>

Linda06
April 1st, 2017, 05:21 AM
I really didn't get why they needed the secret-kid-from-nowhere to break them up. It was so stupid it hurt. But at least Felicity was lucky enough to date a guy, so at least it wasn't a stray bullet. I mean... So gets shot and does not die. You know what I mean. :D

Yeah a sudden kid thing was strange indeed, and a stupid way to go. That blasted stray bullet has a lot to answer for :mckay:


And don't get me started on Barry/Iris. Zero chemistry. Patty was okay, too bad they couldn't keep the actress.

I don't know why they kept going on with this unrequited love angle. I mean did anyone even care? I quite liked Patty


But I actually stopped watching both shows before they went unbelievable stupid with the convoluted relationship twists, the convoluted indestructible villain twists turned me off before that. It was just not fun watching "super heroes" having their asses handed to them week by week while almost defeating the indestructible super villain.

I think Arrow has improved a bit since they cut back on the ridiculous romance nonsense. Now all we need is for The Flash and Supergirl to do the same


And with Felicity's new man being killed by oli, i don't see them too getting back together..



I also preferred Patty.. And really wish they could bring her back in.. AND KILL off iris!

The Oliver/Felicity thing is done and dusted now. Too much water under the bridge

Iris is so annoying. She's pointless and unnessessary

aretood2
April 1st, 2017, 05:56 AM
Iris is so annoying. She's pointless and unnessessary

Here's the problem, that's like calling Lois Lane pointless and unnecessary. Iris is Barry Allen's one true love, she's "the one". They just need to write her better. For a little bit they were doing just that. They can go back to a more interesting Iris, they just need to realize what they are doing wrong.

Infinite-Possibilities
April 1st, 2017, 11:39 AM
I think you're seriously being premature if you think Oliver and Felicity are never getting back together.

Anyway, I was never the biggest fan of the cartoon in question but this episode did make me want to go back and listen/watch to the original Music Miester songs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_q1SdaWLlw

pjt
April 1st, 2017, 12:43 PM
Here's the problem, that's like calling Lois Lane pointless and unnecessary.

*cough*Lana Lang*cough*

Starsaber
April 3rd, 2017, 06:40 AM
Yeah a sudden kid thing was strange indeed, and a stupid way to go. That blasted stray bullet has a lot to answer for :mckay:


The kid thing was built up for two seasons in Arrow. That being said, last season was rough because they treated it like a romance show with an action subplot instead of the other way around.

pjt
April 3rd, 2017, 06:44 AM
The kid thing was built up for two seasons in Arrow.

Really? Then I really didn't pay enough attention. To me it was like Oliver is in the crossover episode, bye Barry! Oh, who's that ex there? Hello Mini-me!

Starsaber
April 4th, 2017, 07:56 AM
Really? Then I really didn't pay enough attention. To me it was like Oliver is in the crossover episode, bye Barry! Oh, who's that ex there? Hello Mini-me!

The episode where Moira died toward the end of Season 2 had flashbacks involving Oliver learning that the mother was pregnant and Moira paying her a couple million dollars to tell Oliver that she miscarried and move away. Then in the Season 1(F)/Season 3(A) crossover with Flash, Oliver ran into her at Jitters and after he left, she called her son saying she was on her way home.

Linda06
April 4th, 2017, 09:51 PM
Huh, I must have zoned out on that cause I couldn't remember it