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GateWorld
October 28th, 2016, 11:40 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="500" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/supergirl/s2/changing/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/changing-300x225.jpg" WIDTH="225" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">SUPERGIRL - SEASON TWO</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="4"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/supergirl/s2/changing/" STYLE="text-decoration: none;">CHANGING</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 206</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">An alien parasite is uncovered in the Arctic ice and infects a climate scientist, who feeds on Supergirl's powers -- pressing James to seize his own heroic destiny. Meanwhile Alex decides to share her secret with Kara, and Mon-El takes up a less than desirable new career.</DIV>
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Annoyed
November 14th, 2016, 06:37 PM
Ok, this jumped right out at me.
Guardian makes his debut, and then rides off on his motorcycle...

And the motorcycle sounds like a weedeater. WTF?

garhkal
November 14th, 2016, 09:42 PM
That did get me, but i loved the suit...
Also liked seeing Kara and sis bond somewhat on her coming out..

Though once again they kind of rather hammed the 'climate crisis' liberal mantra down our throats..

Annoyed
November 15th, 2016, 04:25 AM
If we were fussy about not watching TV / movies that pushed a left leaning agenda, we wouldn't have much to watch.

And spending so much screen time with Kara's sister "coming out" and trying to date & getting shot down was totally inappropriate.
I don't watch a show like this for that kind of content. And I don't mean the gay aspect. If I wanted to watch romantic BS I would DVR a few daytime soap operas.

garhkal
November 15th, 2016, 01:05 PM
There's a diff with watching a documentary, news show or the like pushing a leftists propaganda, vs an ENTERTAINMENT show doing so...

I also agree on the spending too much time on the romance..

BUT one thing. is it me or does kara either not CARE to use her other powers (such as her eye beam) or is it she's SCARED to use them?
I ask, cause isn't it the height of stupidity to go into hand to hand combat with something again AFTER you already did so and got your ass drained???

Annoyed
November 16th, 2016, 04:07 AM
Kara has shown a taste for raw physical violence. "I want to punch something" might be her motto. Might have been just her own personality driving her to a direct physical attack.

Falcon Horus
November 16th, 2016, 05:40 AM
And spending so much screen time with Kara's sister "coming out" and trying to date & getting shot down was totally inappropriate.
I don't watch a show like this for that kind of content. And I don't mean the gay aspect. If I wanted to watch romantic BS I would DVR a few daytime soap operas.

So, I assume, not having read any of the other episode threads (yet), that you also had a problem with Win pining after Kara, Kara pining after James, Kara getting her heart crushed when Lucy Lane and James get back together, Lucy and James relationship going up and down, Win and Smyth getting it on in the supply closet... Mike and the secretary... The chemistry between Maxwell Lord and Alex.

I mean, plenty of romantic/sexually laden stuff going on in Supergirl.

Or is it just Alex' love life or lack thereof that bothers you?

RE: climate change
I'm even surprised either of you is watching this show since climate change is such a heavy subject all throughout season 1 and a little in season 2. :p

pscard
November 16th, 2016, 09:10 AM
Decided to stop watching Supergirl.

Falcon Horus
November 16th, 2016, 10:35 AM
Decided to stop watching Supergirl.

Any particular reason?

I only just started watching, like last week. Bingewatched through season 1 and ended with this episode just yesterday. AND I LOVE IT!!

VampyreWraith
November 16th, 2016, 12:11 PM
This episode was ok. James going to the DEO and getting angry at Winn was annoying to watch. Kara going off on Mon-El was also annoying. And I hated the fact they just let that surviving doctor/scientist leave the DEO without first finding out what happened to the rest of his team. I don't care if he wanted to leave because of his important work, they should have locked him up if he didn't want to cooperate. James and Winn working together towards the end was probably the best part of the episode for me. I really hope that Kara doesn't pitch a fit when she finds out what's going on. I felt bad for Alex when Maggie friend-zoned her. I'm looking forward to seeing what Cadmus has planned for Mon-El.

garhkal
November 16th, 2016, 12:17 PM
. And I hated the fact they just let that surviving doctor/scientist leave the DEO without first finding out what happened to the rest of his team. .

Not just that, but the fact the DEO is supposed to be a 'SECRET' government group, and they had this guy in their inner sanctum, and just let him watlz out..?!?!!?

Annoyed
November 16th, 2016, 02:11 PM
So, I assume, not having read any of the other episode threads (yet), that you also had a problem with Win pining after Kara, Kara pining after James, Kara getting her heart crushed when Lucy Lane and James get back together, Lucy and James relationship going up and down, Win and Smyth getting it on in the supply closet... Mike and the secretary... The chemistry between Maxwell Lord and Alex.

I mean, plenty of romantic/sexually laden stuff going on in Supergirl.

Or is it just Alex' love life or lack thereof that bothers you?

RE: climate change
I'm even surprised either of you is watching this show since climate change is such a heavy subject all throughout season 1 and a little in season 2. :p
As I recall, they didn't spend damned near half the episode on Winn's desires, Kara's desires or anyone else's.
This week had a significant percentage of the 43 or so minutes focused on Alex and whoever that was.. Sorry, forget her name. As I said, if I want a show that focuses on that, I'd DVR soaps.

jelgate
November 16th, 2016, 05:42 PM
Ah the old fans not knowing what soap opera is cliché. Some things never get old.

Now lets get those perfect characters who are just robots

Annoyed
November 16th, 2016, 06:20 PM
Oh, we've already had a show about that. They were called Cylons.

Falcon Horus
November 17th, 2016, 07:00 AM
As I recall, they didn't spend damned near half the episode on Winn's desires, Kara's desires or anyone else's.
This week had a significant percentage of the 43 or so minutes focused on Alex and whoever that was.. Sorry, forget her name. As I said, if I want a show that focuses on that, I'd DVR soaps.

LOL!! I love your excuse -- I wonder what sort of excuse I can make to protest all those straight lovey-dovey stuff that's always going on in all my shows.

;)

Annoyed
November 17th, 2016, 09:39 AM
Gay, straight or bent into a pretzel, that's not the issue.

I don't watch a show of this type for romantic content, of ANY flavor. I'm not a shipper. More like an anti-shipper. :P Why do you think orientation has anything to do with it?

So I don't know what you mean by needing an excuse to say you don't like it.

aretood2
November 17th, 2016, 01:56 PM
So, I assume, not having read any of the other episode threads (yet), that you also had a problem with Win pining after Kara, Kara pining after James, Kara getting her heart crushed when Lucy Lane and James get back together, Lucy and James relationship going up and down, Win and Smyth getting it on in the supply closet... Mike and the secretary... The chemistry between Maxwell Lord and Alex.

I mean, plenty of romantic/sexually laden stuff going on in Supergirl.

Or is it just Alex' love life or lack thereof that bothers you?

RE: climate change
I'm even surprised either of you is watching this show since climate change is such a heavy subject all throughout season 1 and a little in season 2. :p

I was a bit annoyed but not surprised about the love triangle. One of the things I loved about Arrow is that they dropped the will they wont they angle and then they gave you a massive (if possibly un-Comic book cannon) twist by matching Oliver with Felicity. The Winn/Jimmy/Kara thing was too cliche for me, but I wasn't surprised given the channel involved at the time.

As for Alex, I would have preferred a bisexual approach with her. It just seemed off to me. We've never really got that much into Alex's life absent Kara. It really took me out of Supergirl. And there was a missed opportunity with Kara not being raised on Earth for the first 12 years. It bugged me that the show didn't give us cultural take on the whole coming out thing (further taking me out of the Supergirl feel). Kara is an alien from an alien culture. Is it normal for them? Is it shunned (Considering how uptight they seem to be)? Does it even work that way? I mean, they do have prejudices in Krypton with the whole Daxumites being icky thing.


Ah the old fans not knowing what soap opera is cliché. Some things never get old.

Now lets get those perfect characters who are just robots

Love triangles have been overdone though. Remember Lana Lang from Smallville? *shudders*

jelgate
November 17th, 2016, 03:16 PM
I never watched Smallville

aretood2
November 17th, 2016, 06:13 PM
Then you were spared the forced Lana Lang romance angle. They had 10 seasons. The first few, fine. Lana Lang was his highschool crush/love. But they kept her coming at Clark well into season 8...and Lois Lane was introduced in season 4! I mean, talk about beating an old horse. They beat it to a pulp until it was nothing but mushy organic pile of goo, took it to a taxidermy and beat it again until it was all smashed up into dust.

Linda06
December 2nd, 2016, 05:54 AM
So, I assume, not having read any of the other episode threads (yet), that you also had a problem with Win pining after Kara, Kara pining after James, Kara getting her heart crushed when Lucy Lane and James get back together, Lucy and James relationship going up and down, Win and Smyth getting it on in the supply closet... Mike and the secretary... The chemistry between Maxwell Lord and Alex.

I mean, plenty of romantic/sexually laden stuff going on in Supergirl.

Or is it just Alex' love life or lack thereof that bothers you?

RE: climate change
I'm even surprised either of you is watching this show since climate change is such a heavy subject all throughout season 1 and a little in season 2. :p

I hated the whole Kara/James thing. IMO there was no romantic chemistry there so I'm happy they nipped it in the bud this season.

But damn that was hard on Alex. I'm glad Kara was there for her in the end, it looked touch and go for a while. Also quite funny seeing Kara get drunk :lol:

But as for the DEO which I thought was supposed to be secret, there seems to be a lot of coming and going at their base of operatons :rolleyes:

garhkal
December 2nd, 2016, 12:20 PM
But as for the DEO which I thought was supposed to be secret, there seems to be a lot of coming and going at their base of operatons :rolleyes:

Yea, it has almost as much traffic in and out as the arrow cave..

Linda06
December 2nd, 2016, 03:11 PM
Yea, it has almost as much traffic in and out as the arrow cave..

I know, right? How can it be secret when everyone knows about it :lol:

garhkal
December 2nd, 2016, 10:30 PM
Same thing goes for star labs..

Falcon Horus
December 5th, 2016, 03:23 PM
I don't watch a show of this type for romantic content, of ANY flavor. I'm not a shipper. More like an anti-shipper. :P Why do you think orientation has anything to do with it?

Now that I've read through every episode thread, I have seen you're an equal opportunity whiner when it comes to possibly-romantic moments. ;)

Nevertheless, Alex is my new LGBTQ superhero. :D

Most of you have the luxury of never having to come out as straight persons, but as a gay person I know damn well how hard it is, and to see it represented in a tv-show is quite the milestone. And Alex's coming out is going rather well (not everyone is even that lucky).
Reminds me when I came out to my sister -- pretty much how it went, minus the object of affection or getting friend-zoned.

That was hard -- Alex comes to terms, comes out to Kara, and then has her heart ripped to shreds. Not cool. :(

Aside from that -- CLIMATE CHANGE IS BACK!!! :D For a brief moment anyway. :p

So, Kara is up against an alien who likes to drain people dry and use their power to grow into a Purple People Killer (TM Winn). It goes bad twice for her and once for J'onn (really bad for him), and on third try she gets it right. Too much power provides an overload and kills the beast-once-man.

I think Mon-El coming round is that he maybe doesn't want to disappoint Kara, and I suspect he has ulterior motives for that, but I think he's still trying to find his place. After all, he's been adrift for a while and he used to be guard on Daxam... and Daxamites aren't well-mannered (if Kara's description is anything to go by). He's not yet superhero material but he could be.

Another highlight, besides Alex coming out, Kara drunk. :p

Continuity error: scene in the bar between Mon-El and Kara, there's a glass on the edge of the table, next to Chris Wood (Mon-El) which appears and disappears between the camera going from Chris to Melissa. It's flipping magic how it appears and disappears -- I don't get how the editor missed it. :p

aretood2
December 5th, 2016, 06:27 PM
I don't mind ships, as long as they are done well. Alex/Maggie ship isn't done well in my opinion. To add to it, Maggie is simply the Girlfriend, she has no agency of her own. Her sole purpose is to be Alex's love interest, that was the problem with Jimmy and part of the reason why that ship didn't work well either.

Falcon Horus
December 6th, 2016, 07:23 AM
Maggie works for the X-Files department of National City's police department. Last I checked anyway.

VampyreWraith
December 6th, 2016, 08:38 AM
I'm not a shipper, but there are some relationships that I don't mind, and I think whether or not a relationship is done well is pretty much a matter of opinion (I'm not saying that anyone here said otherwise). I didn't mind Kara/James, they weren't too in your face/focused on too much. I never saw James as solely a love interest character and I never really found him annoying either. As of right now, I don't mind Alex/Maggie or Kara/Mon-El. So far, none of the relationships on this show have bothered me, not like Oliver/Felicity on Arrow did anyway (their relationship annoyed me so much, that I actually quit watching Arrow during season 4, and only picked it back up this season when I heard/read that it wasn't being focused on like it was).

aretood2
December 6th, 2016, 03:38 PM
I'm not a shipper, but there are some relationships that I don't mind, and I think whether or not a relationship is done well is pretty much a matter of opinion (I'm not saying that anyone here said otherwise). I didn't mind Kara/James, they weren't too in your face/focused on too much. I never saw James as solely a love interest character and I never really found him annoying either. As of right now, I don't mind Alex/Maggie or Kara/Mon-El. So far, none of the relationships on this show have bothered me, not like Oliver/Felicity on Arrow did anyway (their relationship annoyed me so much, that I actually quit watching Arrow during season 4, and only picked it back up this season when I heard/read that it wasn't being focused on like it was).

That's one way to put it :P

VampyreWraith
December 6th, 2016, 04:03 PM
That's one way to put it :P

My hope is that their relationship stays the way it is now, I like both characters better that way, it probably won't though lol.