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GateWorld
November 17th, 2015, 12:34 PM
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<FONT SIZE="4"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/agents-of-shield/s3/closure/" STYLE="text-decoration: none;">CLOSURE</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 309</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">A new attack from Ward leaves the team reeling, and Coulson leaves Mac in charge in order to lead an off-books mission to settle the score. Meanwhile Hydra leads Fitz and Simmons into a trap in hopes of retrieving something from the planet on the other end of the ancient portal.</DIV>
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garhkal
December 1st, 2015, 08:00 PM
Yeousers. Didn't expect Roslin to die so easily/soon. And i pity Ward when Phil get's a hold of him.

aretood2
December 3rd, 2015, 05:54 PM
Ward just gets crazier and crazier. I think it's time to put him down old Yeller style.

blueray
December 3rd, 2015, 06:10 PM
I am really sick of Ward and hope that he dies in next weeks episode. I don't really care who kills him, though it would be nice if it goes to Fitz. He deserves it the most.

garhkal
December 4th, 2015, 08:55 AM
Fitz or Phil.. Though it would be real nice to see it be the alien inhuman who kills him!

Ian-S
December 4th, 2015, 06:14 PM
The alien inhuman will probably posses Ward in order to get back (perhaps what is left on the planet is it's spirit) knowing our luck.

Or perhaps Ward is going to 'defect' back to SHIELD, he did say something about 'new beginnings for us' to Fitz before going through the portal (by defect I mean pretend to since Hydra won't let him extract revenge on Coulson, so he'll defect back to get back io SHIELD so he can extract his revenge at a later date).

He certainly seems unhinged enough to consider something like this, but I'm probably talking out my backside since I doubt Coulson would ever have him back.

P-90_177
December 4th, 2015, 06:34 PM
I am really sick of Ward and hope that he dies in next weeks episode. I don't really care who kills him, though it would be nice if it goes to Fitz. He deserves it the most.

Nooooo. Can't kill Ward. He's the most interesting character.

Gen. Chris
December 5th, 2015, 09:30 AM
Ward is, so far, the MCU's most enduring villain, and I'd like for him to at least last the season.

He's a well written character.

aretood2
December 5th, 2015, 12:59 PM
Hey look, everyone loved old Yeller, but he had to go in the end.

P-90_177
December 5th, 2015, 01:15 PM
Hey look, everyone loved old Yeller, but he had to go in the end.

...You know I'd argue with this but simultaneously and taken by the analogy of Ward being a rabid dog. :P

jelgate
December 5th, 2015, 07:19 PM
If you make an villian stay too long I find their evilness becomes too cliché and predictable. That was my problems with some of the Stargate villains especially the Goa'uld. On the other hand a villian that is constantly changing in unpredictably can last the whole series. I loved Gul Dukat on Star Trek:DS9 from start to finish. So I guess to me its how long Ward stays unpredictible

garhkal
December 5th, 2015, 09:09 PM
If you make an villian stay too long I find their evilness becomes too cliché and predictable. That was my problems with some of the Stargate villains especially the Goa'uld. On the other hand a villian that is constantly changing in unpredictably can last the whole series. I loved Gul Dukat on Star Trek:DS9 from start to finish. So I guess to me its how long Ward stays unpredictible

True Though of the Gou'ald Ba'al remained fresh from start to finish..

P-90_177
December 6th, 2015, 03:55 AM
If you make an villian stay too long I find their evilness becomes too cliché and predictable. That was my problems with some of the Stargate villains especially the Goa'uld. On the other hand a villian that is constantly changing in unpredictably can last the whole series. I loved Gul Dukat on Star Trek:DS9 from start to finish. So I guess to me its how long Ward stays unpredictible

I think Ward just needs some character development. He's remained cool to watch but fairly consistent. But if something happens to make him question his loyalty to HYDRA or to make him rethink his life then I think he'll soon become more interesting to watch.

blueray
December 6th, 2015, 12:46 PM
My problem with Ward is that most of his story has been told, I do not want to see him redeemed and can't see that happening anyway. Which means that he will just continue to just be an ass and just taking up screen time that could have went to other characters. Also it will be unrealistic that nobody would have killed him, especially if he lives much longer. Now they could have made him a grey character, however that ship kind of sailed as he killed to many people. I do however think he deserves an awesome death scene.

Not many shows really have done a good villian, to the point where they were still interesting when they did finally "die". A few are:

Sg-1: Baal, he was always entertaining to watch, however I still think that they should had him become a CEO, since I never got why the Gaa'old never tried that.

DS9: Dukut, while I hated him, he was a well written character. And was in the whole length of the show. What made him not one dimensional is the fact that you never really knew if he regretted what he did or not until the end of the show, when it was clear that he had no remorse and was basically insane lol. And also there was that brief part of time where he was on the "good" side. He was also very unpredictable.

honorable mention:

Continuum: Kelgame, remained very entertaining, however not sure he counts as the villain necessarily as he was a very grey character.

aretood2
December 6th, 2015, 05:45 PM
Like I said, he needs to die. He is quickly, as I see it, getting to the point where unless there is a twist somewhere, he'll become too much of the same thing that his interest would end. AoS needs to learn about the circle of life.

Starsaber
December 6th, 2015, 08:13 PM
I'm thinking he'll get possessed by the exiled inhuman to change things up a bit. He's a series regular, so I think he'll be around for most of the rest of the season still.

meredithchandler73
December 7th, 2015, 07:28 AM
I'm thinking he'll get possessed by the exiled inhuman to change things up a bit. He's a series regular, so I think he'll be around for most of the rest of the season still.

I don't see where else they might go with Ward at this point. He has specifically gone after everyone on the original team and/or someone they love. He's just going to keep doing that until he gets closure? Specifically with Coulson dying? I'm hoping that the Powers That Be are planning for the Inhuman to take over Ward's body and return to Earth. That would be a great change for Brett Dalton. He'd get to stay on the show, but move on from Ward.

My greatest fear is that they'll have this Inhuman take over Coulson. I swear, if that happens I will be screaming at the top of my lungs. Even having Coulson and/or the Inhuman kill Ward wouldn't make up for that happening.

On a separate note, I keep thinking back to the end of season 2 - when Jiaying explained that the monolith was somehow dangerous to Inhumans. Did she mean that she knew of the Inhuman that was banished to a far away planet? And she fears that the humans would do that to all Inhumans? Is she simply afraid of the evil Inhuman that was banished and thinks any Inhuman that comes in contact with it would be killed or forced to work for it? Anyway, I'm kind of hoping that they pay off that little comment from season 2 about some connection between the monolith and Inhumans. Also, it would be cool to see if Elliot Randolph (the Asgardian) could make a return appearance as well. In his season 3 ep he mentioned that he hadn't heard the word "Inhuman" for a very long time. Could he have been part of the group that banished the Inhuman in the first place???

garhkal
December 7th, 2015, 09:35 PM
On a separate note, I keep thinking back to the end of season 2 - when Jiaying explained that the monolith was somehow dangerous to Inhumans. Did she mean that she knew of the Inhuman that was banished to a far away planet? And she fears that the humans would do that to all Inhumans? Is she simply afraid of the evil Inhuman that was banished and thinks any Inhuman that comes in contact with it would be killed or forced to work for it? Anyway, I'm kind of hoping that they pay off that little comment from season 2 about some connection between the monolith and Inhumans. Also, it would be cool to see if Elliot Randolph (the Asgardian) could make a return appearance as well. In his season 3 ep he mentioned that he hadn't heard the word "Inhuman" for a very long time. Could he have been part of the group that banished the Inhuman in the first place???

Well, remembering the ep they went to get Gemma back, didn't Daisy get some severe headaches from it??? Some sort of feedback..
Maybe that is what Jiyjang was on about.

yukin1990
December 8th, 2015, 07:04 PM
Shame to see Ms. Price died so quickly, Banks too!! Now Ward need to die as painfully and as slowly as it gets!!!:mckayanime17::teyla15::ronon::sholva:
Coulson leaving Mack in charge is make sense and in a way help him go after Ward!!!Because like Coulson said he is the only one who doesn't have an ax to grind with Ward.


The alien inhuman will probably posses Ward in order to get back (perhaps what is left on the planet is it's spirit) knowing our luck.

Or perhaps Ward is going to 'defect' back to SHIELD, he did say something about 'new beginnings for us' to Fitz before going through the portal (by defect I mean pretend to since Hydra won't let him extract revenge on Coulson, so he'll defect back to get back to SHIELD so he can extract his revenge at a later date).

He certainly seems unhinged enough to consider something like this, but I'm probably talking out my backside since I doubt Coulson would ever have him back.

even if Ward defect back to SHIELD, which he won't, everybody(well!! Almost everyone) in SHIELD would NEVER trust(Actually, more like everyone want to kill..) him again.
:jack_new_anime25::daniel09::samanime15::tealcanime51::jonas13::hammond04:
Original Team Member-----
Coulson: kill Ms. Price, betray the whole original team
Fitz-Simmons: Fitz getting brain damage and Simmons getting integrated, also both of them almost died!!!
Daisy: Almost got kill because of his connection to John Garrett, kill Keoing!!
May: Sleeping with the traitor, send people to hurt Andrew, and may send someone try to kill her dad !!
New addition ---
Hunter: Hurting Bobbi, almost got her killed!!!

Teddybrown
December 9th, 2015, 01:29 PM
Bobbi: almost killing her


I'm so sick of Ward. I guess zombie Ward maybe different. But I was hoping for a clean death and for him to just be gone.

I liked this episode a lot. Especially since Fitz did get to kick that things ass. Mac taking charge.

There were also a lot of good little things such as:

Hunter waving to show who was them.
Joe finding out he's bullet proof.

and Coulson who had the quote of the night "what do you know, Tattooine"

Wrong thread...

blueray
December 10th, 2015, 03:28 PM
Wrong thread...

Opps, sorry about that. I fixed it :)