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DJsGirl
September 19th, 2014, 08:37 AM
Now that Season 2 is upon us, I thought there should be a place to discuss and appreciate the amazing chemistry between Abbie and Ichabod.

Ichabbie all the way!

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/GIF%20Maker/A3B7784C-9A9A-447E-BFC8-E2F9F5D8D8A1_zpsfnqajejc.gif (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/GIF%20Maker/A3B7784C-9A9A-447E-BFC8-E2F9F5D8D8A1_zpsfnqajejc.gif.html)

Twi'lek
September 19th, 2014, 09:34 AM
Now that Season 2 is upon us, I thought there should be a place to discuss and appreciate the amazing chemistry between Abbie and Ichabod.

Ichabbie all the way!

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/GIF%20Maker/A3B7784C-9A9A-447E-BFC8-E2F9F5D8D8A1_zpsfnqajejc.gif (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/GIF%20Maker/A3B7784C-9A9A-447E-BFC8-E2F9F5D8D8A1_zpsfnqajejc.gif.html)

This is awesome! I needed this thread!

3 more days till Ichabbie! Now I need to work on some fan art ;)

Bagpuss
September 19th, 2014, 09:38 AM
A word.Don't re-edit oversized pics after a Mod changes the tag.

DJsGirl
September 19th, 2014, 09:43 AM
I forgot to add the tags for the post. I tried editing the post but it wouldn't let me do it. Oh well, I figure it will be a small audience on here anyway. The Ichabbie fan base is huge though. The whole show is actually.
Lets just hope Fox keeps it going for a Season 3 and that TPTB don't mess with the fantastic chemistry these two actors are bringing to the characters.

DJsGirl
September 19th, 2014, 09:44 AM
Sorry thought it was an error on my end.

Bagpuss
September 19th, 2014, 09:45 AM
No probs.:) Carry on shipping!

hedwig
September 19th, 2014, 10:00 AM
I think Ichabbie are great together, too. But as far as "shipping" them, he's still in love with his wife and wants desperately to rescue her, so any shipping won't be for quite awhile, if ever. :)

Twi'lek
September 19th, 2014, 10:42 AM
I think it'll be interesting to see how things change between Abbie and Ichabod now that Katrina has returned from purgatory. I'm not expecting any on screne romance (one can dream) But stranger things have happened. They'll be awesome together even if it has to stay platonic. I also think I've learned from shipping John/Teyla, Jack/Sam, Vala/Daniel, Hook/Swan... the writers don't always give us the pair we want, when we want it... but there's always fan fic :)

DJsGirl
September 19th, 2014, 11:08 AM
I totally agree. Though I try to stay safely in the friendship zone with these two, the chemistry just makes it to hard to resist the hope for a relationship. I have seen some far fetched ships and always say more power too them. This doesn't seem far fetched to me. Granted it would need the right set of circumstances.
I even had a little hope for Duke& Audrey in Haven but now he has a new girl and Nathan has Audrey... Maybe lol.

DJsGirl
September 19th, 2014, 11:18 AM
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/SH/imagejpg1_zpseb2ec4a0.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/SH/imagejpg1_zpseb2ec4a0.jpg.html)

And as for our pair. Previews have let it be know that

A new ghost weapons expert will enter the picture and he will have a thing for Abbie... Which Ichabod is not going to like very much. There is also rumor ( by an exec.) of a possible almost kiss... However it may be not what it seems (of course). Katrina may be sympathizing a bit with Headless, so we'll have to see what happens there too. Most of this is sourced on Tumbler and Fox's sleepy Hollow page.

It's going to be interesting.

Twi'lek
September 19th, 2014, 12:47 PM
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Did this one really quick before I take off for the afternoon.
I did get a chance to check out Tumblr. Wow! They are Ichabbie all the way it seems... at least a lot more than I expected. Love all the Art. There is some insane talent with the drawings and cartooning.
I may take some time to do something next week for the return of Once Upon a time. Maybe Robin and Regina since that seems to be the underdog relationship right now. I think I like to torture myself lol!

The Lady Blue
September 19th, 2014, 11:09 PM
I think they are playing the long road on this one. For Ichabod, he woke up and it was like his wife was with him the day before. So, there was that and all of the other discoveries that came with it being 200 years later and she was in purgatory. Now she's out but still in trouble and they've got to work through that before anything else. I thought Katrina was great this past season and it's nice she'll be back again. Still, for me the show is Abbie and Ichabod. So, that's always great. :)

DJsGirl
September 20th, 2014, 06:35 AM
I think they are playing the long road on this one. For Ichabod, he woke up and it was like his wife was with him the day before. So, there was that and all of the other discoveries that came with it being 200 years later and she was in purgatory. Now she's out but still in trouble and they've got to work through that before anything else. I thought Katrina was great this past season and it's nice she'll be back again. Still, for me the show is Abbie and Ichabod. So, that's always great. :)

Abbie and Ichabod made the show for me. I instantly liked the characters. In the beginning I tried not to ship them (even now I mostly friendship them with hopes of a future relationship) but I certainly ship with caution. Especially now that Katrina will be in the real world with them.
I kind of felt bad for Katia. During a couple of interviews and particularly at SDCC she said she hoped the fans would give her a chance and thought maybe they just wanted her to go away, because the Ichabbie fan base is so strong. I don't think they want her to go away. I think that it was hinted early in S1 that Ichabbie was end game so having Katrina 'here' means that won't happen for a long time... If ever. I think we all know TPTB change their minds on these things. And fans want to see their protagonists/stars together "now" lol. So seeing the wife back from the dead makes the fans very nervous.

DJsGirl
September 20th, 2014, 07:04 AM
I love that TM is always thinking about the fans and seems supportive of Ichabbie. And the fans seem to be very appreciative on Tumbrels. Here are a few gems from his latest interview.
He actually said "hash tag Ichabbie" too funny


http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/work/imagejpg2_zps5c5ee266.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/work/imagejpg2_zps5c5ee266.jpg.html)

And
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/work/6a54b94f-71c1-44f1-a443-868431a50a97_zps6647f188.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/work/6a54b94f-71c1-44f1-a443-868431a50a97_zps6647f188.jpg.html)

Twi'lek
September 20th, 2014, 12:03 PM
I love that TM is always thinking about the fans and seems supportive of Ichabbie. And the fans seem to be very appreciative on Tumbrels. Here are a few gems from his latest interview.
He actually said "hash tag Ichabbie" too funny


http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/work/imagejpg2_zps5c5ee266.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/work/imagejpg2_zps5c5ee266.jpg.html)

And
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l78/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/work/6a54b94f-71c1-44f1-a443-868431a50a97_zps6647f188.jpg (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/DJs_Futuristicfanfic/media/work/6a54b94f-71c1-44f1-a443-868431a50a97_zps6647f188.jpg.html)

!

Definitly shipping with caution here too. The friendship is wonderful, so I'm looking forward to that. And of course looking forward to seeing how they handle things with some tension between them since Abbie was left in Purgatory for Katrina.

The Lady Blue
September 20th, 2014, 06:30 PM
Abbie and Ichabod made the show for me. I instantly liked the characters. In the beginning I tried not to ship them (even now I mostly friendship them with hopes of a future relationship) but I certainly ship with caution. Especially now that Katrina will be in the real world with them.
I kind of felt bad for Katia. During a couple of interviews and particularly at SDCC she said she hoped the fans would give her a chance and thought maybe they just wanted her to go away, because the Ichabbie fan base is so strong. I don't think they want her to go away. I think that it was hinted early in S1 that Ichabbie was end game so having Katrina 'here' means that won't happen for a long time... If ever. I think we all know TPTB change their minds on these things. And fans want to see their protagonists/stars together "now" lol. So seeing the wife back from the dead makes the fans very nervous.

Oh, that's so sad to hear from her. The same thing happened to Kandyse McClure on Battlestar Gallactica. She was Lee's wife and there were fans that hated the character and took it out on the actress because they wanted Lee and Kara together. I didn't think that was fair to her, especially since she seemed like such a nice person. Even having Lee cheat on her with Kara didn't seem to make them happy enough. Personally, I thought Sam was better despite his condition, and Kara ended up getting the better guy. I also thought Billy was better, but that's just my opinion too. Sleepy Hollow's a little different to me in the sense that I do think that Ichabod and Abbie could be good together, but you never know what will happen.

Twi'lek
September 21st, 2014, 01:14 PM
It's nice to see that TM is throwing some support to Ichabbie. Now we just have to see what the writers and producers do with the show.

LadyBlue, I remember that with BSG. It's never good when the writers go in one direction, get the fans hyped up about it then go in another direction. It divides your audience into camps and you risk losing a large portion of your audience if you go in a different direction. SGA did it with Ronon/Keller, and many believe with John/Teyla. They also outraged John/Liz fans.
I've googled and done some searching and there is so much on Ichabod/Abbie, and so very little for Ichabod/Katrina (except for the movie and old cartoon). The fans of the show just are not shipping Ichatrina (or at least very little).
I for one do not want an OOC affair between Ichabbie. I prefer the complexity of the feelings/friendship, and then more friendship development with a little angst thrown in. Once the storyline with Katrina is resolved (Se goes back to pergatory, crosses over into death, Sacrifices herself for Jeramy or Headless... whatever happens in the future) then I would like to see what happens with Ichabbie relationship wise.
But if the writers just say flat out never mind Ichabbie is over, I will not be happy. The relationship/friendship has already compelled me (and others) to care, and to want them as the endgame.

Twi'lek
September 21st, 2014, 01:42 PM
I did a bit of rewatching and I remembered that it was eisode 3 (with the Sandman that I first started getting a little bit shippy for Ichabbie. Then the encouterd the sandman and they wre so protective of each other. Then back in their secret room behind the police station,m they had a light hearted moment.

hedwig
September 21st, 2014, 02:22 PM
So far, I think Ichabod and Abbie are really close friends and partners, which happens when people go through stuff together like they have. Doesn't mean they have to become romantically involved.

DJsGirl
September 21st, 2014, 04:30 PM
So far, I think Ichabod and Abbie are really close friends and partners, which happens when people go through stuff together like they have. Doesn't mean they have to become romantically involved.

So true, but doesn't mean the fans can't enjoy shipping if we want to. It's a fun pass time, and it's just a show. Just like with any ship... It may or may not happen on the show, but we still have fun with it. Lots of ships never happen on screen (John/Teyla, John/ Elizabeth, Jack/Sam, Ronon/Jennifer) and we still enjoy shipping :) It never bothers me if someone ships or is a non shipper. But it's nice to have a place to share the ship with those who also appreciate it.

DJsGirl
September 21st, 2014, 04:35 PM
I did a bit of rewatching and I remembered that it was eisode 3 (with the Sandman that I first started getting a little bit shippy for Ichabbie. Then the encouterd the sandman and they wre so protective of each other. Then back in their secret room behind the police station,m they had a light hearted moment.

That was sweet at the end of that episode.
I think I started to get shippy eyes on the Sin Eater episode. It started with the adorable curtsy after the baseball game, and then the hug at the end was like "wow". I got a little choked up. It's the actors. NB and TM are fantastic.

Twi'lek
September 21st, 2014, 06:56 PM
That was sweet at the end of that episode.
I think I started to get shippy eyes on the Sin Eater episode. It started with the adorable curtsy after the baseball game, and then the hug at the end was like "wow". I got a little choked up. It's the actors. NB and TM are fantastic.

One of my favorite episodes. I think that was the one that solidified it for me. One more day!

JadedWraith
September 22nd, 2014, 05:08 AM
I have to say I like their chemistry together, even if stays on the companionship/friendship area.

DJsGirl
September 22nd, 2014, 12:55 PM
D
I have to say I like their chemistry together, even if stays on the companionship/friendship area.

Yes, so do I. The writers/directors struck gold pairing these two. I heard the screen test was pretty awesome for them. I need to get the S1 DVD set.

Twi'lek
September 22nd, 2014, 06:35 PM
Can't stay but wanted to say the S2 premiere is Wow so far!

DJsGirl
September 23rd, 2014, 07:11 AM
The blogs are alive with the sound of Ichabbie today! The non Abbie Ichabod fans are not happy, but next week will be focused on Ichabod finding Katrina, so they will have their pair back.

I'm going to work on some art and vids. If they aren't too big I will post here.

Twi'lek
September 23rd, 2014, 10:38 AM
The blogs are alive with the sound of Ichabbie today! The non Abbie Ichabod fans are not happy, but next week will be focused on Ichabod finding Katrina, so they will have their pair back.

I'm going to work on some art and vids. If they aren't too big I will post here.

Yes they are. I can't believe that much 'shippy goodness' was dedicated to the non romantic pair. Maybe trying to make the Ichabod/Abbie fans happy before all the Ichabod/Katrina romance begins.


As for the almost kiss that was hinted. It was actually a very romantic (if you are shippy) long hug then dialog and ending with him holding her hand not wanting to let her go

I also read that on the DVD set the producer said or hinted that Ichabbie is the endgame. I really hope so.

Morgania
September 23rd, 2014, 11:10 AM
But Katrina is still there. Captured by the Horseman who still fancies her, but still married.

Twi'lek
September 24th, 2014, 10:36 AM
Most of the fic I've seen is AU where Katrina is still dead or in purgatory (which is dead) or she does not exist for what ever reason, or they are future based where Katrina has passed on to the afterlife. Now after the season premiere, I'm seeing a new type of fic pop up.
based on the year that Abbie and Ichabod where together didn't really happen. They thought Jenny and Katrina were dead so the imagination can think up some romantic scenarios based on what was said.

The consensus from what I can tell though is that the Ichabod/Abbie fans are full anti-affair. That would just not be cool. There are a ton of theories running about how this will play out, since it is STILL being hinted by producers that Abbie/Crane are end game. This is also based on the actual story being that Katrina did not chose Ichabod, she chose the Hessian soldier (Headless). It may be that knowing the story makes it easier to think Ichabod and Katrina are not the endgame.
I'm willing to wait it out and see what happens. It'll be interesting either way.

Morgania
September 24th, 2014, 06:27 PM
I don't ship Icabod/ Abbie romantically.

The Lady Blue
September 25th, 2014, 01:38 AM
I ship them romantically and as friends. Both bonds work for me. Although, I've never followed the story of Sleepy Hollow. So, I didn't know that Katrina picks the Hessian. Can someone say what made her do that?



It's nice to see that TM is throwing some support to Ichabbie. Now we just have to see what the writers and producers do with the show.

LadyBlue, I remember that with BSG. It's never good when the writers go in one direction, get the fans hyped up about it then go in another direction. It divides your audience into camps and you risk losing a large portion of your audience if you go in a different direction. SGA did it with Ronon/Keller, and many believe with John/Teyla. They also outraged John/Liz fans.
I've googled and done some searching and there is so much on Ichabod/Abbie, and so very little for Ichabod/Katrina (except for the movie and old cartoon). The fans of the show just are not shipping Ichatrina (or at least very little).
I for one do not want an OOC affair between Ichabbie. I prefer the complexity of the feelings/friendship, and then more friendship development with a little angst thrown in. Once the storyline with Katrina is resolved (Se goes back to pergatory, crosses over into death, Sacrifices herself for Jeramy or Headless... whatever happens in the future) then I would like to see what happens with Ichabbie relationship wise.
But if the writers just say flat out never mind Ichabbie is over, I will not be happy. The relationship/friendship has already compelled me (and others) to care, and to want them as the endgame.

I wouldn't want to see an affair either. Technically, some say Katrina and Ichabod aren't married because she died and was in purgatory, but he still considers her his wife because when he woke up that's all he knew because for him no time has passed. That's changing now, but I still think they have some unresolved things to work through, and I want to see what this Hessian tries with her. I don't think it will work in making her willingly choose him, but you never know. Right now, I'm happy to see Ich and Abbie as partners. I'd love to see things maybe got further later on, but not right now.


D

Yes, so do I. The writers/directors struck gold pairing these two. I heard the screen test was pretty awesome for them. I need to get the S1 DVD set.

Oh, I'd imagine they had a nice screen test seeing how well they work together on the show. That must have been great. :)

Twi'lek
September 25th, 2014, 08:25 AM
I ship them romantically and as friends. Both bonds work for me. Although, I've never followed the story of Sleepy Hollow. So, I didn't know that Katrina picks the Hessian. Can someone say what made her do that?


If memory serves me correctly...
It wasn't actually the Hessian, but the town hero.
Katrina apparently was the catch of the town. All the guys wanted her and she was well aware of that. Ichabod was the nerdy school teacher. She was smitten by both men for different reasons. Anyway after a Halloween party Ichabod has an encounter with the legendary Headless Horseman (which the story leads us to believe is actually Braun, the town hero). Ichabod disappears and no one knows why. Then Katrina marries Braun the town hero.

Morgania
September 25th, 2014, 08:28 AM
In the original story...

I guess Katrina picked Bram, and Icabod (a school master) ran off somewhere.

DJsGirl
September 26th, 2014, 07:10 AM
I'm looking forward to next Mondays episode. I'm still thinking it will be all about Katrina, Ichatrina and Katrina/Headless even tho the producers are saying there will be plenty of Ichabbie. I'm not going to get my hopes up but rumors are flying.

TGIF everyone.

DJsGirl
September 26th, 2014, 07:13 AM
Interesting that in the original story, Katrina does not end up with Ichabod. I'm not sure how this will effect the direction the show takes. I'll have to wait and see like everyone else.

Morgania
September 26th, 2014, 05:52 PM
I don't why the leads of all shows must hook up. Still like this friendship though.

The Lady Blue
September 26th, 2014, 09:58 PM
Thanks for all of the info on the original story. I'm looking forward to this Monday's episode. I hope they have the captain there too.

Twi'lek
September 29th, 2014, 09:37 AM
Thanks for all of the info on the original story. I'm looking forward to this Monday's episode. I hope they have the captain there too.

Me too. I miss Irving! I can't wait to see how he gets out of his very difficult situation. I'm also hoping for some nice Ichabod/Abbie friendship growth. I know they have some issues to deal with. I'm expecting a heavy Katrina episode tho.

DJsGirl
October 3rd, 2014, 01:55 PM
It was pretty heavy Katrina and the ratings were lower. Hopefully this weeks will go back up.

The best part of the episode for me was the bank scene. I also enjoyed Abbie and Kindred fight scene against War and Headless. That was awesome.

DJsGirl
October 3rd, 2014, 02:14 PM
I don't why the leads of all shows must hook up. Still like this friendship though.

I think because it sells. Even on a non romantic type show ( like Stargate) even though there is little romance, the fans will see what they want to see between the characters. It helps sell the show and gets viewers emotionally attached to the characters.

Actually it is not the norm for the leads to 'hook up' and especially end up together, when it is a lead WOC and a WM. usually the woman of color is usually just a friend... Especially in the Sci-FI/fantasy genre. And the rare times it does happen (Eureka's Carter and Alison) there is always a voice in the fandom railing against it.
I never really thought about it until I started participating in the Sleepy Hollow fandom, and the fandom began to point this out. There is no one in other fandoms making these type of claims for their leads to stay plutonic. In fact in most fandoms the fans want their leads to hook up or end up together in the end.
I try my best to ship based on chemistry between the characters... And I do not ship a whole lot. I guess that is why it's never bothered me if the ship is a mixed race or a different race from myself, married, not married, or alien/human lol. Being half white and Latina, there aren't many couples like myself to ship anyway.

Twi'lek
October 5th, 2014, 07:08 PM
I think because it sells. Even on a non romantic type show ( like Stargate) even though there is little romance, the fans will see what they want to see between the characters. It helps sell the show and gets viewers emotionally attached to the characters.

Actually it is not the norm for the leads to 'hook up' and especially end up together, when it is a lead WOC and a WM. usually the woman of color is usually just a friend... Especially in the Sci-FI/fantasy genre. And the rare times it does happen (Eureka's Carter and Alison) there is always a voice in the fandom railing against it.
I never really thought about it until I started participating in the Sleepy Hollow fandom, and the fandom began to point this out. There is no one in other fandoms making these type of claims for their leads to stay plutonic. In fact in most fandoms the fans want their leads to hook up or end up together in the end.
I try my best to ship based on chemistry between the characters... And I do not ship a whole lot. I guess that is why it's never bothered me if the ship is a mixed race or a different race from myself, married, not married, or alien/human lol. Being half white and Latina, there aren't many couples like myself to ship anyway.

Most people don't notice things like this so kudos for speaking up about it.

DJsGirl
October 13th, 2014, 09:39 AM
I'm Looking forward to tonight's episode. I'm liking Nick. He's already got Ichy jealous lol.

Morgania
October 14th, 2014, 05:11 PM
He's jealous of who now? I thought he was just looking out for her.

Twi'lek
November 6th, 2014, 08:39 AM
I think Ichabod is jealous that Nick knows things (his need to be the smartest guy in the room) He does not like Hawley at all