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GateWorld
April 3rd, 2014, 11:13 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 118</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">When Coulson learns that a U.S. military Colonel is after his team he takes them off the grid, hoping that an old friend is showing him the way. Meanwhile, Hydra rescues Raina and plans an assault on S.H.I.E.L.D.'s most secure facility.</DIV>
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Mrja84
April 16th, 2014, 09:51 AM
Patton Oswalt! I like that guy.

Cool episode, though I am looking forward to more of Colonel Talbot.

I am still surprised they just told Ward where they were instead of meeting him someone else. You know, cause Hydra could hack their comms...

Anyway, I liked it all

knowles2
April 16th, 2014, 10:23 AM
I am looking forward to getting to know Agent Patton Oswalt in the show. His character is going to be one that is underestimated by everyone.

I felt bit sorry for Coulson, with everyone doubting Coulson being sent a signal by an ally, especially when they know S.H.I.E.L.D is built up layer after layer of secrets within itself. In fact the other characters acted a bit self centered I thought.

My only complaint is that I felt we needed an episode where we see Coulson trying to get Shield back together. An at least try to rescue their other allies in other S.H.I.E.L.D installations, bit short change by saying only 4 facilities were retook with no details. A scene where they allow other agents to decide whether they want to go on the run, hand themselves over the Talbot forces or simply be allowed to disappear back into society with a new identity forge by Sky would have been good.

It would have been nice to hear other governments having a say in the decision to break up S.H.I.E.L.D as well, rather than what seem to be just an American only decision. I know the films have to rush over these type of details but it be nice to see them more fully explored in the series.

Evil Ward is awesome, please keep him evil. Through it nice to see two confident S.H.I.E.L.D agents follow the rules for once, it a shame they were killed the second after they legitimately broke the rules to save two agents. Through shouldn't a red alert have been sent out when Ward and Hand failed to arrive on schedule to the prison facility?. An you would have thought a prison facility holding all the scum of the Earth and at least a large cache of exotic and alien weaponry would have enough defences to take out a single attack helicopter.

The Women in a flower dress don't seem at all happy with being told the Clairvoyant is a phony or that she was working for Hydra all along, I don't think she will be doing the whole Hail Hydra thing anytime soon. An I wonder what she wanted to ask the clairvoyant and what is she looking for. I got a feeling she may be connected to Sky and the Chinese village Sky was taken from or another object of unknown origin.
Did anyone else burst out laughing when agent Garrett told that solder to stop doing the hail Hydra thing like they in some cheerleading group.
I wonder where that chair leads to?

Also for an organisation that spent decades building itself up, Hydra facility looks a bit makeshift to me.

If it wasn't a Fury that bought back Coulson, who the hell did. secrets within secrets, lies upon lies.

An let hope Fury has plenty of other secret bases, the one in Canada not going to stay secret with the kids inviting their Hydra affiliated boyfriends around.

bailey1ak
April 16th, 2014, 11:07 AM
As much as I hated the idea of Ward being Hydra in the last episode, I have to say that I am kind of enjoying evil Ward at the moment. It is a good look for him and he is doing a great job of it.

I did enjoy Agent Oswalt too. His personality is fun and a great contrast to Coulson's. Their interactions should be a lot of fun in coming episodes.

Baron Of Hell
April 16th, 2014, 12:19 PM
I do like that they went all out evil with Ward. I thought he was being controlled by one of those eye implants or by something seen in the Cap 2 movie. No he is just a evil guy.

I believe The Abomination was being held in the fringe. I think he might show up in the next the movie.

Spimman
April 16th, 2014, 01:08 PM
This episode ended well, but I was kind of bored at first. After last weeks event I expected to keep that pace the whole time, but it didn't really do that.

I also feel Coulson is being a little childish about Mae, she was under orders from Fury himself. WOuld he expect her to break orders of that magnitude for friendship? Seems like Mae\Fury had Coulson's best interest in mind anyway.

garhkal
April 16th, 2014, 03:24 PM
Then Bastages at ABC have gone back to having to "verify" to watch the episode. CRAP!

jelgate
April 16th, 2014, 03:41 PM
Then Bastages at ABC have gone back to having to "verify" to watch the episode. CRAP!
They have been doing that since January. Its a money thing.

bailey1ak
April 16th, 2014, 03:52 PM
This episode ended well, but I was kind of bored at first. After last weeks event I expected to keep that pace the whole time, but it didn't really do that.

I also feel Coulson is being a little childish about Mae, she was under orders from Fury himself. WOuld he expect her to break orders of that magnitude for friendship? Seems like Mae\Fury had Coulson's best interest in mind anyway.

I agree Spimman. Coulson drags them all to some remote spot in Canada because it was from a "message from Fury" through his badge. Blind faith all the way, yet when Mae obey's Fury's orders she is put in the dog house because of it. *shakes head*

Mrja84
April 17th, 2014, 05:41 AM
They have been doing that since January. Its a money thing.

Not sure I understand.


Good points on Coulson having faith the message was from Fury, but angry at May for spying on him.

Was the Gravitonium what Ward found under the Fridge or was it something else?

knowles2
April 17th, 2014, 05:52 AM
Not sure I understand.


Good points on Coulson having faith the message was from Fury, but angry at May for spying on him.

Was the Gravitonium what Ward found under the Fridge or was it something else? I presumed it was the Gravitonium but it could also be the place that S.H.I.E.L.D has put other stuff to lose in the system.

meredithchandler73
April 17th, 2014, 10:28 AM
I've liked the show from the beginning and it's just been getting better and better.

Coulson has some terrific moments in this episode as he tries to convince the team that Fury is alive and that SHIELD and its ideals still exist and are important. Evil Ward continues to be much more interesting and exciting than Good Ward. However, I was not a big fan of SkyeWard before and the revelation that he is a bad guy doesn't make me like the ship any more. But I understand it makes the stakes higher and becomes an even bigger betrayal in Skye's eyes.

And speaking of betrayal, the one thing about Coulson that is still bugging me is how he has taken such a hard line with May for keeping secrets from him and reporting to Fury behind his back. As others have mentioned, Coulson finds out that Fury kept things from him and yet he has faith that Fury is alive and reaching out to him. But May following Fury's orders - in order to protect Coulson - that seems to be an unforgivable sin. Hey Coulson, remember when you explained to Skye about the blue alien and said that you shouldn't tell the rest of the team in order to protect them? I do hope their friendship can be repaired at some point.

So, Coulson found out that Garrett was the Clairvoyant and a bond has been broken between Coulson and May due to the secrets she was keeping (on Fury's orders). These are people Coulson has known for a long time and his view of them has changed (to different degrees, of course). Interesting that it hasn't occurred to him that any of the rest of the team could be hiding anything, too. How will Coulson take it when he finds out that Ward was with Hydra all along?

Based on the promos for next week:
It looks like Skye finds out the truth about Ward. Is it Ward who reveals himself to her? Does she find out in some other way? As much as I like Evil Ward, I do hope that the mask comes off soon. I can't wait to find out how the team reacts to his betrayal.

Tuesday can't come soon enough!!!

Infinite-Possibilities
April 17th, 2014, 10:52 AM
I'm kinda wondering how much millage they are going to get out of Evil Ward. Is he actually going to be a long term bad guy or are they going to take him out by the end of the season?

Mrja84
April 17th, 2014, 11:36 AM
I'm kinda wondering how much millage they are going to get out of Evil Ward. Is he actually going to be a long term bad guy or are they going to take him out by the end of the season?

I don't think they will kill him off just as they are starting to allow that character to grow and shine as he always was intended to be.

However, character death is not something new and it would be cool to have a regular cast member taken out during the first season (unlike Angel :) )

mr_kennedy
April 17th, 2014, 06:32 PM
I've also been wondering if he will see season 2, but i have mixed feelings about it, i think it would be really cool if he switched sides again cus of sky but was killed in an epic fight or something, but then again i really like evil Ward so i think he should be kept around as a villain for season 2

I was kind of expecting May to be the Hydra agent ya know? cus that's the type of role Ming-na usually plays

Rosehawk
April 17th, 2014, 07:36 PM
I agree Spimman. Coulson drags them all to some remote spot in Canada because it was from a "message from Fury" through his badge. Blind faith all the way, yet when Mae obey's Fury's orders she is put in the dog house because of it. *shakes head*
With May...it's really not that she was following Fury's orders.... Coulson feels very betrayed by May who he had seemed to consider a friend and he found out she was hiding stuff from him when he was telling her details that he was remembering and that he also felt that she seemed to know what happened to him when he died while he's been obsessed with finding answers. Those are powerful emotions that will take some time to heal.

May was a friend...Fury is a boss...sets off two different sets of standards that people follow in their heads and hearts.

To find out that May had contact with Fury the whole time Coulson was obsessively trying to get ahold of Fury and couldn't get ahold of him....no wonder he's so angry with her.

garhkal
April 17th, 2014, 11:33 PM
They have been doing that since January. Its a money thing.


For ep 16 and 17 they didn't. I was able to watch them the day right after..

Mrja84
April 18th, 2014, 09:02 AM
For ep 16 and 17 they didn't. I was able to watch them the day right after..

I still don't know what you guys are talking about.

Anyway, Ming-na has played a variety of roles not just "bad guys" but human characters with nuances. I haven't seen her play an action role so it's cool to see her handle that.

jelgate
April 18th, 2014, 03:29 PM
I still don't know what you guys are talking about.

Anyway, Ming-na has played a variety of roles not just "bad guys" but human characters with nuances. I haven't seen her play an action role so it's cool to see her handle that.
He is talking about ABC's Internet streaming policy. Last January ABC changed their streaming policy where they wait 8 days before putting it online. The reasoning is put preference for the people who pay for on demand tv.

Looney
April 18th, 2014, 09:03 PM
I really like Evil Ward much better than good Ward, but I am sure they will have him redeem himself somehow because that is how silly TV works. Of course, the reason I like him is that he does seem really bad, but they threw in a ton of moments where you could see him react to the mention of Skye or the team, so I am guessing he will redeem himself in some way. I really, really, really hope not. I think Patton Oswalt can replace him. :D

Mrja84
April 18th, 2014, 10:05 PM
I don't think he will redeem himself this season, but he may offer some kind of "hope" by the season finale. But my money is on no redemption this season.

garhkal
April 18th, 2014, 10:39 PM
He is talking about ABC's Internet streaming policy. Last January ABC changed their streaming policy where they wait 8 days before putting it online. The reasoning is put preference for the people who pay for on demand tv.

Exactly. No other site does that (well none i have checked), and they DID have it not needing that "verification" crap for 2 eps.. So why all of a sudden kick it back in?
IMO its one heck of a dick move.

jelgate
April 19th, 2014, 06:16 AM
Exactly. No other site does that (well none i have checked), and they DID have it not needing that "verification" crap for 2 eps.. So why all of a sudden kick it back in?
IMO its one heck of a dick move.
Fox does it and a lot of cable channels do it as well.

Starsaber
April 19th, 2014, 08:47 AM
Exactly. No other site does that (well none i have checked), and they DID have it not needing that "verification" crap for 2 eps.. So why all of a sudden kick it back in?
IMO its one heck of a dick move.

There are several shows on Hulu that you can watch next day on Hulu Plus but have to wait 8 days to watch if you're watching for free.

garhkal
April 19th, 2014, 07:42 PM
Fox does it and a lot of cable channels do it as well.

Well, since other than Glee, none of their shows do i really care to watch, i didn't bother looking them up.

garhkal
April 26th, 2014, 01:52 PM
Finally caught this ep.
I loved it from start to finish.
Loved reina's response to finding out the clairvoyant was just a man. Though i really had wished skye had NOT have contacted ward like that and given him the location of that hide out.. It shows imo how love sick she is.. AND why the heck did no one else stop her, let alone why would a 'super secret facility that even the rest of shield knows nothing about, allow cell phones to work in them anyway?

Mrja84
April 28th, 2014, 11:58 AM
Finally caught this ep.
I loved it from start to finish.
Loved reina's response to finding out the clairvoyant was just a man. Though i really had wished skye had NOT have contacted ward like that and given him the location of that hide out.. It shows imo how love sick she is.. AND why the heck did no one else stop her, let alone why would a 'super secret facility that even the rest of shield knows nothing about, allow cell phones to work in them anyway?

Good point, but as far as the team knows Ward is on their side. So no one would have had an issue with her contacting Ward in general

garhkal
April 28th, 2014, 03:24 PM
Well, being that guy IN said facility was only willing to talk with coulson and give him the rundown, it was easy for me to see that the rest of the team was 'not in the know' enough (not even may) to get a rundown for it. So with that, i can see then not being allowed to talk to outsiders, let alone give the facilities location away so easily.

Mrja84
April 29th, 2014, 07:47 AM
Well, being that guy IN said facility was only willing to talk with coulson and give him the rundown, it was easy for me to see that the rest of the team was 'not in the know' enough (not even may) to get a rundown for it. So with that, i can see then not being allowed to talk to outsiders, let alone give the facilities location away so easily.

Agreed. I didn't like her using a phone to call him especially just revealing the location at that moment. I would have expected them to use some kind of landline and arrange to meet at a separate location.

garhkal
May 1st, 2014, 03:15 PM
I mean, you would think that an org made on secrecy and opsec would practice it. Especially in such a 'secret' facility.