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GateWorld
March 19th, 2014, 09:27 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 116</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">With help from some of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s top agents, the team goes on the hunt for the Clairvoyant -- prompting the mysterious mastermind to summon Deathlok to stop them.</DIV>
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April 2nd, 2014, 11:33 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 116</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Agents Garrett and Triplett are back to help Coulson's team track down S.H.I.E.L.D.'S nefarious enemy -- the Clairvoyant. But will Deathlok destroy them all to protect his master's identity? <I>(ABC)</I></DIV>
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Since it's okay to spoil without using spoilers, here goes...

Garrett is Skye's father, right? At least that's the idea I got from that. Or Coulson. Can't make up my mind.

Amara D'Angeli
April 3rd, 2014, 03:41 AM
Since it's okay to spoil without using spoilers, here goes...

Garrett is Skye's father, right? At least that's the idea I got from that. Or Coulson. Can't make up my mind.

What gave you that impression?

Spimman
April 3rd, 2014, 06:10 AM
Since it's okay to spoil without using spoilers, here goes...

A guess, prediction, or speculation isn't a spoiler. Now if you read something online that gives you more information than what has aired up to the point of this episode and reveal that, then that is a spoiler.


Garrett is Skye's father, right? At least that's the idea I got from that. Or Coulson. Can't make up my mind.

I didn't pick up on that, but what did you see?

Teddybrown
April 3rd, 2014, 06:51 AM
Now that you've said that, I could see it, but it could have just been a supportive chat too...

FanGirl
April 3rd, 2014, 08:54 AM
A guess, prediction, or speculation isn't a spoiler. Now if you read something online that gives you more information than what has aired up to the point of this episode and reveal that, then that is a spoiler.
I didn't pick up on that, but what did you see?

It was the way Garrett looked at Skye. (Love Bill Paxton, BTW)

But then later there was something about Coulson having been there when Skye was a baby. Or am I remembering incorrectly? The old memory isn't what it used to be and I don't have it recorded.

FanGirl
April 3rd, 2014, 09:06 AM
Oh, and in an earlier ep, Coulson said that Skye's parents were SHIELD agents. I wonder how many people out there hoped it was Hawkeye and Black Widow.

:lol:

Mrja84
April 3rd, 2014, 09:16 AM
I felt the episode was good, but not as solid as it could be

knowles2
April 4th, 2014, 03:17 PM
Spoilers are for winter soldier.

It was good episode but the endless breaks have really spoil my enjoyment of this show, shows with story arcs simply don't work when there a break every other bloody week.

Don't know who or more importantly what sky is but it got to be something relating to HYDRA which is why those agents hid her all those years ago from both the forces that attack the village and S.H.I.E.L.D.

Coulson wasn't part of that team, though we know at least one person of that team is alive and is hiding. But I believe Sky storyline will take a back seat until season 2 and it could even be that after the decimation of S.H.I.E.L.D by HYDRA forces in Winter solder that she will decide that her only chance of finding out the truth is leaving shield and going back to rising tide, which is especially pugnant as she only just became an agent. An next season will be her building up rising tide and looking for the truth. Whilst Coulson is tracking down and disposing of HYDRA agents and trying to keep his remaining team members alive and one step ahead of their pursuers May and Deathlok.

What going to be interesting is figuring out how much Nick Furry new about HYDRA infiltration of S.H.I.E.L.D and what kind of forces he has built up secretly, in the comic he knows of 28 secret of the book bases, presume that Coulson and co blew one up already, that leave 27 intact and available for use by Fury, the creation of Coulson team, may be even assembling the Avengers themselves, suggests that he been preparations for sometime and was simply waiting for HYDRA forces to reveal themselves

Clairvoyant is the surveillance program HYDRA has been using S.H.I.E.L.D to build .

yukin1990
April 5th, 2014, 08:57 AM
Having watch episode 16 and CA2: Winter Soldier.
It kind of impatient waited between the break.

So as far as we know S.H.I.E.L.D have been infiltrate after WW2 and decimation by HYDRA after Winter Soldier
The HYDRA'S S.H.I.E.L.D Agent seem infiltrate over half of S.H.I.E.L.D !!
And Captain America, Black Widow, Nick Fury did exact what Skye did!!
Dr. Zola a.k.a Clairvoyant build project insight identify and using three Helicarriers to terminate any threat to HYDRA!!
The Team Coulson is it really need to work out system? (which is Skye specialty!)
Ward seem to care about Skye!! Some error bullet count about agent Blake!!
is it safe to assume that Victoria Hand having HYDRA background.
And will some raising tide members turn into new S.H.I.E.L.D agents in the future?
Is Clairvoyant consider Skye as a threat or a target? if yes, why? if no, whose are the people kill all the village people and S.H.I.E.L.D Agent?
The people the team lock up before (Dr. Franklin, Donald Gill), it is safe to say that they will be broke out and the team need to catch them again!!

I wonder what happen to the team after the event of the Winter Soldier??(seem a dumb question for me)

garhkal
April 5th, 2014, 01:01 PM
Oh, and in an earlier ep, Coulson said that Skye's parents were SHIELD agents. I wonder how many people out there hoped it was Hawkeye and Black Widow.

:lol:

Not old enough, unless they were in their Tweens (12-15 area) when they had her.

Teddybrown
April 5th, 2014, 02:04 PM
I should really stop clicking on all these spoiler tags... :p

Ah well, still really want to see CA2...

garhkal
April 5th, 2014, 08:32 PM
Caught the rerun tonight, and WOW.. Just WOW.
May almost shooting Fitz, after he discovered her hidden terminal.
That wheel chair bound dude 'acting as the clairvoyant' getting shot by ward. This ep was packed!

FanGirl
April 6th, 2014, 04:24 PM
Caught the rerun tonight, and WOW.. Just WOW.
May almost shooting Fitz, after he discovered her hidden terminal.
That wheel chair bound dude 'acting as the clairvoyant' getting shot by ward. This ep was packed!

I don't know what May is up to, but I don't think it's anything bad. I believe she was just keeping Fury and Hill apprised of Coulson's condition/memory with regards to Tahiti.

Ward, at first I thought he'd been programmed to kill the Clairvoyant figurehead. Now I'm not so sure.

And I still think that Garrett is Skye's father. I could be wrong. It could be Coulson.

garhkal
April 6th, 2014, 10:21 PM
Doubt that either of those 2 would order her to kill Fitz for finding out about it though.. Which is why i DO feel she is up to something wrong there.

Mrja84
April 7th, 2014, 07:08 AM
Deathstroke

You mean Deathlok? ;)

Also I think you should preface those spoilers with a note sayign they are related to Captain America: The Winter Soldier and not just Agents of Shield. But, thanks for doing that.

knowles2
April 7th, 2014, 01:44 PM
You mean Deathlok? ;)

Also I think you should preface those spoilers with a note sayign they are related to Captain America: The Winter Soldier and not just Agents of Shield. But, thanks for doing that.

Done.

FanGirl
April 7th, 2014, 07:38 PM
Doubt that either of those 2 would order her to kill Fitz for finding out about it though.. Which is why i DO feel she is up to something wrong there.

Again, the memory isn't what it used to be so correct me if I'm wrong.

She went after Fitz because he found her secret radio. So yes. Why would she kill him over that unless she thinks FITZ is up to something? Only Fitz would have to be programmed because I don't think he's the kind of person otherwise who would do it for money though he might if he thought it was the right thing to do for the greater good.

Mrja84
April 8th, 2014, 09:51 AM
Again, the memory isn't what it used to be so correct me if I'm wrong.

She went after Fitz because he found her secret radio. So yes. Why would she kill him over that unless she thinks FITZ is up to something? Only Fitz would have to be programmed because I don't think he's the kind of person otherwise who would do it for money though he might if he thought it was the right thing to do for the greater good.

I think you both are forgetting she went after Fitz with an Icer (aka. Night-Night gun). She even shot the glass and you can see the blue imprint. So she wasn't trying to kill him, just trying to keep her secret.

FanGirl
April 8th, 2014, 04:53 PM
I think you both are forgetting she went after Fitz with an Icer (aka. Night-Night gun). She even shot the glass and you can see the blue imprint. So she wasn't trying to kill him, just trying to keep her secret.

See? That's why I need a way to record.

FanGirl
April 8th, 2014, 06:24 PM
Okay! Mind blown!!!

garhkal
April 9th, 2014, 02:48 PM
I think you both are forgetting she went after Fitz with an Icer (aka. Night-Night gun). She even shot the glass and you can see the blue imprint. So she wasn't trying to kill him, just trying to keep her secret.

Which to me is still iffy as heck. How was he to know it was an "Icer"..

Mrja84
April 10th, 2014, 12:15 PM
Which to me is still iffy as heck. How was he to know it was an "Icer"..

Well he wouldn't, which i think is why there is so much tension.

knowles2
April 10th, 2014, 12:31 PM
Which to me is still iffy as heck. How was he to know it was an "Icer"..
I think the whole point was that he wasn't meant to know an that when face with a gun pointed at his head he was meant to **** his pants and tell May everything.

Starsaber
April 11th, 2014, 07:23 AM
Which to me is still iffy as heck. How was he to know it was an "Icer"..

That's the problem with the ICERs. At least with the original Night Night Gun, there were blue lights on it. Of course, that's not so good for stealth.

Mrja84
April 11th, 2014, 11:10 AM
That's the problem with the ICERs. At least with the original Night Night Gun, there were blue lights on it. Of course, that's not so good for stealth.

It's also now cheaper on the show's budget to use real looking guns instead of custom props.

Starfist
May 1st, 2014, 01:28 PM
A very interesting episode. It opened my eyes.
Great to see Skye get what she deserved.

And the twist. The twist that I wasn't expecting...! Roll on the next episode.