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GateWorld
March 17th, 2014, 11:08 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 316</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Zelena challenges Regina to a fight to the death and shocks the Evil queen with the reveal of their familial connection. Meanwhile, back in the past in the land of Oz, a jealous Zelena asks the Wizard to send her to Fairy Tale Land after discovering that she has a sister, Regina, and that Rumplestiltskin is training her to become a powerful force to be reckoned with. <I>(ABC)</I></DIV>
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tomstone
April 6th, 2014, 05:08 PM
Well, that was intense. I did not think all questions would be answered so fast. Only thing missing now is who Zelenas Daddy is. Could still be Rumple, after all she appears to be the most powerful of the Witches at least. I think though Emma could beat her if someone taught her white magic. Regina only showed her to use anger, but she is supposed to use love.

The Face-off was pretty nice, I really liked those 2 having at it, though the fight was pretty unbalanced. Regina was clever though, I would have loved her using that chance to rip out Zelenas heart, but at least she did not get what she wanted.

Maybe they try redoing a bit of the first Season finale, in the Sense of stopping Zelena but still not avoiding the next curse. They have been making us feel sorry for Regina enough to make her the reason for the next Season.

AresLover452
April 6th, 2014, 06:37 PM
one thing is for sure, Zelena is on a fast track to one hell of a karmic ass kickin.....

Still not convinced that Rumple is Zelena's daddy

hedwig
April 6th, 2014, 08:16 PM
So now we know where the green skin comes from ... "Green" with envy. And an interesting little twist on who the Wizard is/was, and who he became.

Some folks have suggested that King Leopold might be Zelena's father. However, that would mean she's just as "royal" as Regina, even though illegitimate. And I don't see how Cora could have hidden that from the other royals, since apparently she and Henry lived in the castle with everyone else.

And ... Regina gave her heart to Robin Hood! Literally! :D

garhkal
April 6th, 2014, 09:24 PM
Well, that was intense. I did not think all questions would be answered so fast. Only thing missing now is who Zelenas Daddy is. Could still be Rumple, after all she appears to be the most powerful of the Witches at least. I think though Emma could beat her if someone taught her white magic. Regina only showed her to use anger, but she is supposed to use love.

Unless he had time travel powers i doubt it.. Though i will admit that would make the family tree even MORE convoluted.



The Face-off was pretty nice, I really liked those 2 having at it, though the fight was pretty unbalanced. Regina was clever though, I would have loved her using that chance to rip out Zelenas heart, but at least she did not get what she wanted.

Wasn't really much of a fight. Just Regina getting her a** handed to her. Though i wonder.. Would a gun kill her, if someone shot her?


And ... Regina gave her heart to Robin Hood! Literally!

So maybe she is warming to him afterall.

For me, i liked the side bit with hook and Henry.

tomstone
April 6th, 2014, 09:37 PM
Unless he had time travel powers i doubt it.. Though i will admit that would make the family tree even MORE convoluted.

Why? Cora could have had her right after she broke up with Rumple and hid her heart. Before Rumple she did not even know she had Magic abilities.


Wasn't really much of a fight. Just Regina getting her a** handed to her. Though i wonder.. Would a gun kill her, if someone shot her? Depends if you surprise her. If she is ready for it I bet she would be able to make it dissappear or maybe herself.

majorsal
April 7th, 2014, 02:37 PM
So now we know where the green skin comes from ... "Green" with envy. And an interesting little twist on who the Wizard is/was, and who he became.

Some folks have suggested that King Leopold might be Zelena's father. However, that would mean she's just as "royal" as Regina, even though illegitimate. And I don't see how Cora could have hidden that from the other royals, since apparently she and Henry lived in the castle with everyone else.

And ... Regina gave her heart to Robin Hood! Literally! :D

could rumple still be zelena's dad? when rumple mixed zelena's hair in the tube and saw it turn green, he didn't come out and say she was regina's sister... i wonder if he saw that she 'was' related to cora, but also him!? :p

good and fun ep. :)

hedwig
April 7th, 2014, 03:33 PM
could rumple still be zelena's dad? when rumple mixed zelena's hair in the tube and saw it turn green, he didn't come out and say she was regina's sister... i wonder if he saw that she 'was' related to cora, but also him!? :p

good and fun ep. :)

If Rumple is her father, that would make that moment when Zelena seemed about to kiss him an ewwwww moment. :eek:

Although for Zelena to be so powerful, it does seem as though both her parents would have had magical powers, even though Cora didn't have them when she met Rumple.

Skydiver
April 7th, 2014, 06:07 PM
well....could be Vader, he likes being peoples father ;)
bout the only other franchise they haven't co-opted into

majorsal
April 7th, 2014, 06:21 PM
well....could be Vader, he likes being peoples father ;)
bout the only other franchise they haven't co-opted into

wonder what would happen if the evil queen and the wicked witch were goaulded?.... :S

Mrja84
April 8th, 2014, 09:03 AM
I really liked the episode, but Green with Envy? Really? That's cheesy and I would assume means other FTL characters would change color as well. So that seems to be breaking some implicit rules.

I wouldn't put much effort into the vial turning green when Rumple looked at it. Everything related to Zelena is green, so I think that taking anything from the color is impossible.


But seriously, folks! Zelena wants to time travel!

So let's talk about that (though I loved Regina giving Robin her heart).

I see Zelena's time travel plan as a means for the writers to reshape the show as a whole. I see it three ways:

1) They do a one off episode where Zelena meddled with the past. It could be a cool "It's a Wonderful Life" with Regina being the one missing. Though, I would choose someone that has always been against Regina, see Grumpy, being the one to realize..."hey she's needed". Only because Emma and Regina have basically come to terms. Especially Regina and Snow.

2) They change the whole series on the premise of one or more characters being gone or changed due to Zelena's interference. With us not seeing the full impact until next season.

3) They have one episode showing how Zelena's impact affected the present timeline (A changed to B). Then the heroes try to fix it and instead of the original timeline we get a new timeline (C).

tomstone
April 9th, 2014, 10:02 AM
I really liked the episode, but Green with Envy? Really? That's cheesy and I would assume means other FTL characters would change color as well. So that seems to be breaking some implicit rules.

I wouldn't put much effort into the vial turning green when Rumple looked at it. Everything related to Zelena is green, so I think that taking anything from the color is impossible.


But seriously, folks! Zelena wants to time travel!

So let's talk about that (though I loved Regina giving Robin her heart).

I see Zelena's time travel plan as a means for the writers to reshape the show as a whole. I see it three ways:

1) They do a one off episode where Zelena meddled with the past. It could be a cool "It's a Wonderful Life" with Regina being the one missing. Though, I would choose someone that has always been against Regina, see Grumpy, being the one to realize..."hey she's needed". Only because Emma and Regina have basically come to terms. Especially Regina and Snow.

2) They change the whole series on the premise of one or more characters being gone or changed due to Zelena's interference. With us not seeing the full impact until next season.

3) They have one episode showing how Zelena's impact affected the present timeline (A changed to B). Then the heroes try to fix it and instead of the original timeline we get a new timeline (C).

I would say it is 2 or 3, though number 3 seems more probable. Messing with time is not a good idea, but we will see if she manages to cast her second chance.

I hope we will see someone soon trying out the Water trick on her. I know it might not work since that makes it to easy, but it would still make a funny scene. :D

Mrja84
April 9th, 2014, 01:02 PM
I hope we will see someone soon trying out the Water trick on her. I know it might not work since that makes it to easy, but it would still make a funny scene. :D

Agreed. I was actually hoping to see Regina try it during the fight. Maybe by just splashing water in her face. :)

I really hope the series doesn't pull an Eureka and
have us following characters that are not the original characters we met.

Please let us either stay in our own timeline or have the clear goal of returning to it.

garhkal
April 9th, 2014, 01:44 PM
I would rather she NOT mess with the timeline thanks.

Mrja84
April 11th, 2014, 06:16 AM
I would rather she NOT mess with the timeline thanks.

Agreed, but they are gearing her up as someone that is formidable and she has two of the three ingredients we know she wants. Courage (From Charming), Brain (from Rumple, by controlling him), and Heart (from Regina, but still out of reach).

Aside from Dorthy's request to go home, which seems to have been used in Zelena's backstory to meet her real family. I can't think of anything else from The Wizard of Oz that could be used.

I do wonder when, if ever, Zelena's shoes will become ruby red.

tomstone
April 11th, 2014, 09:47 AM
Agreed, but they are gearing her up as someone that is formidable and she has two of the three ingredients we know she wants. Courage (From Charming), Brain (from Rumple, by controlling him), and Heart (from Regina, but still out of reach).

Aside from Dorthy's request to go home, which seems to have been used in Zelena's backstory to meet her real family. I can't think of anything else from The Wizard of Oz that could be used.

I do wonder when, if ever, Zelena's shoes will become ruby red.

In the Original it where Silver Shoes and not Ruby slippers. Then again they were the property of the Witch that got crushed by the House upon Dorothys arrival in Oz. So Zelena technically should not have them at all. Would be fun to meet Dorothy as well.

I wonder how the Baby fits into Zelenas Curse. Hopefully she does not plan on sacrificing it or something like that, but I fear whatever it is, it cannot be good.

Mrja84
April 11th, 2014, 10:15 AM
In the Original it where Silver Shoes and not Ruby slippers. Then again they were the property of the Witch that got crushed by the House upon Dorothys arrival in Oz. So Zelena technically should not have them at all. Would be fun to meet Dorothy as well.

I wonder how the Baby fits into Zelenas Curse. Hopefully she does not plan on sacrificing it or something like that, but I fear whatever it is, it cannot be good.

True, I forgot her interest in the baby. Please don't name her Dorthy. Emma would just have to pick up on the fact that the Dorthy name came from the book which is out in the real world before the baby was born....Uh oh. Time travel! That's how we all know the stories from another world...they get sent to our past not FTL past....hmmm.

AresLover452
April 11th, 2014, 12:08 PM
I LOVED THIS EPISODE!!!!

1.) Regina is growing!! I love it!! she still calls herself the Evil Queen, but without actually BEING as Evil as she used to be.

2.) Regina entrusted her heart to Robin!!! *shippy sigh* "You can't steal something that's been freely given" OMG!! Girl!! you are so falling for him!

3.) Zelena is well on her way to one HECK of a Karmic @$$ kickin that she rightly deserves for daring to mess with the timeline!!

garhkal
April 15th, 2014, 02:05 PM
2.) Regina entrusted her heart to Robin!!! *shippy sigh* "You can't steal something that's been freely given" OMG!! Girl!! you are so falling for him!

I wonder how long they are going to draw out her romance with him..

Baron Of Hell
January 12th, 2015, 10:08 PM
In this episode we see why the Wicked Witch is green and we see her turn Oz into a flying monkey.

Looking through the way back machine no mentioned the movie tie in. The WW creates a vision where we see Regina. Regina looks just like Dorthy in the vision. This is call out to the movie where the Wicked Witch is looking through her crystal ball at Dorthy.

I liked the episode but it seems to be shoehorned in. I wish they left the secret sister stuff out and just had the WW be a totally new player without tying her into the convoluted family tree.

garhkal
January 16th, 2015, 02:20 PM
I disagree. I actually liked that they tied her to regina's family.