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GateWorld
March 2nd, 2014, 09:32 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 313</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">The Wicked Witch of the West has come to Storybrooke, and is turning the town’s people into flying monkeys.</DIV>
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tomstone
March 16th, 2014, 10:48 PM
Thank God UOAT is back to full form. This Episode had me clinching in my Seat and excited each Minute. Including some real rolling on Floor moments like Grumpy pointing out the Difference between the wicked Witch of the East and the West. Where the F is a Bucket of Water when you need one? :D

Besides that I feel like they got the Mystery back. In the last half they had a Mission, now its back to finding out what happened. Thats when Storybrooke is at its best I would say. They answered the most burning Questions and caused even more in the Process. Kind of reminds me of Lost, but they are still doing it way better this time.

I guess they are going to get to the unbelieving Henry Arc later on then, but I am already certain it will end in Regina giving Henry true Loves Kiss to bring his Memories back like Emma did to the Town in Season 1.

I really like the Wicked Witch, I do hope though they dont try to repent her like Regina. Regina may be Evil, but as she said herself, she is Wicked! There should be no real reasoning to her Actions. What does she want with Snow Whites Baby though? I mean I know I said there should be no reasoning, but still this is a bit random. Just for the fun of it?

I maintain though that the Wicked Witch got the dark Ones Powers now. They are back, Regina got her Powers, so Magic is there but Rumple cant use it. Since the Dark one is so Powerful, either she put Pans Wristband on him or he lost the Power to her. Him being in his Rumple-Ego in the Cell shows he is trying to get it back, or he is just going bonkers, we will have to see on that.

Just a little sidenote, the messed up Family Tree just got a little crazier. Now Henry got an Aunt. I really dont want to be at that Thanksgiving Dinner. :D

rkgardner2003
March 17th, 2014, 01:59 PM
I also liked this episode. It does have the feel of season 1 to me with the mystery to unravel. Interesting idea about Rumple losing his powers to the Wicked Witch. It'll be interesting to see Henry remember, I like the twist of him being the non believer. I can't believe I feel bad for the Evil Queen, but I do! I imagine that will change eventually.

majorsal
March 17th, 2014, 03:42 PM
i'm not sure i believe that the wicked witch is really regina's half sister. zelena/wicked witch was able to break the blood bond thinger (what ever it's called) and open the door because she had regina's actual blood when her flying monkey scratched her.

nothing like being super ticked off to get you out of your depression! :p

TheRandomOne
March 18th, 2014, 07:03 AM
The writers need to work on better reasoning with character motives. The hate Regina had for Snow was not justified considering Sows age at the time & had no idea that Reginas mom was evil incarnate. Now we got this chick whos punishing everyone that Regina has crossed paths with. For something Regina had no clue about at all. Lame reasoning

Jeffer
March 18th, 2014, 03:20 PM
The writers need to work on better reasoning with character motives. The hate Regina had for Snow was not justified considering Sows age at the time & had no idea that Reginas mom was evil incarnate. Now we got this chick whos punishing everyone that Regina has crossed paths with. For something Regina had no clue about at all. Lame reasoning

Regina punished everyone around snow for something that snow had no idea about

hedwig
March 18th, 2014, 03:24 PM
i'm not sure i believe that the wicked witch is really regina's half sister. zelena/wicked witch was able to break the blood bond thinger (what ever it's called) and open the door because she had regina's actual blood when her flying monkey scratched her.

nothing like being super ticked off to get you out of your depression! :p

When did Zelena get some of Regina's blood? Did one of those flying monkeys scratch her or something? What scene was that? I must have not been looking when it happened.

majorsal
March 18th, 2014, 03:27 PM
When did Zelena get some of Regina's blood? Did one of those flying monkeys scratch her or something? What scene was that? I must have not been looking when it happened.

it was the first ep that returned (two weeks ago?). regina and snow were alone in the woods and one of the flying monkey's attacked. it scratched regina, and then at the end of the ep, we see the monkey giving zelena the blood and her saving it/pouring it into some vile thinger. i'm assuming zelena used the blood for that reason, but i can't be sure.

jelgate
March 18th, 2014, 04:09 PM
I think their is a flaw in that plan. Wasn't Zelina already in Regina's castle before she stole Regina's blood?

hedwig
March 18th, 2014, 04:39 PM
I think their is a flaw in that plan. Wasn't Zelina already in Regina's castle before she stole Regina's blood?

^^^
I thought this too.

tomstone
March 18th, 2014, 05:03 PM
^^^
I thought this too.

Well, sealing the Crypt is something different than the Castle. Pretty sure Regina would have already mentioned Blood Magic back when they hit the Shield in that case, but she only got spooked when seeing the Door of the Crypt.

AresLover452
March 18th, 2014, 05:10 PM
Zelena was already in Regina and Snow's castle before everyone came back from Storybrooke. AS for the WW being Regina's half sister, I believe it. There was no reason for Zelena to want to take EVERYTHING from Regina if it was just a passing annoyance, cause well, Regina pisses everyone off. You don't hate someone like that if they weren't bound together by some form of blood tie. From Zelena's POV, Regina got everything while Zelena was cast aside. Everything, as reluctant as Regina was to have it, should have, in Zelena's mind been her's. She was the elder sister.

As for Regina targeting Snow, that was easy for Regina because at the time, she didn't have the power to take on her mother. Besides, hating Snow for being tricked by the devious snake Cora really is, really is not fair. Kids are like little alcoholics. They can't keep their mouths shut for anything.

mr_kennedy
March 19th, 2014, 10:59 PM
Cora Sure knew how to make em

Mrja84
March 20th, 2014, 09:38 AM
I maintain though that the Wicked Witch got the dark Ones Powers now. They are back, Regina got her Powers, so Magic is there but Rumple cant use it. Since the Dark one is so Powerful, either she put Pans Wristband on him or he lost the Power to her. Him being in his Rumple-Ego in the Cell shows he is trying to get it back, or he is just going bonkers, we will have to see on that.


I do not agree that Rumple's power went to Zelena. Besides, Rumple has no Rumple-Ego. That is his own original personality. The Mr. Gold persona (if his mind was ever truly affected by the curse), was a persona that merged with the original like what happened to everyone else in Season 2.

Since Rumple killed himself with his own dagger and his predecessor desired for Rumple to kill him, I'd have to imagine the power only goes to who killed the Dark One with the dagger.

So what happens when the Dark One killed himself? Is the the Dark One curse meant to prevent the Cursed to do that?

Also, Zelena's skin is green so that easily could be due to whoever Cora mated with. Besides, Rumple was never that bright when he was the Dark One. his skin wasn't even green it was like a decayed gold shine, similar to his predecessor.

Though, Rumple is back and very much trapped. So I wonder where the dagger went? Maybe Belle found it in FTL? Maybe Zelena found it as a way to bring him back?

Was Rumple's memories affect by this new curse? He surely knew he was dead as he did kill himself before the town vanished. But maybe he was brought back while they were in FTL and then the new curse struck and he also lost memories from the year in FTL?

AresLover452
March 20th, 2014, 12:32 PM
It seems to me that Rumple is playing the Long Con.... biding his time until he can make his move. How he was acting in the cage was EXACTLY how he was acting in his first prison back at the beginning of the series.

tomstone
March 20th, 2014, 04:26 PM
I do not agree that Rumple's power went to Zelena. Besides, Rumple has no Rumple-Ego. That is his own original personality. The Mr. Gold persona (if his mind was ever truly affected by the curse), was a persona that merged with the original like what happened to everyone else in Season 2.

Since Rumple killed himself with his own dagger and his predecessor desired for Rumple to kill him, I'd have to imagine the power only goes to who killed the Dark One with the dagger.

So what happens when the Dark One killed himself? Is the the Dark One curse meant to prevent the Cursed to do that?

Also, Zelena's skin is green so that easily could be due to whoever Cora mated with. Besides, Rumple was never that bright when he was the Dark One. his skin wasn't even green it was like a decayed gold shine, similar to his predecessor.

Though, Rumple is back and very much trapped. So I wonder where the dagger went? Maybe Belle found it in FTL? Maybe Zelena found it as a way to bring him back?

Was Rumple's memories affect by this new curse? He surely knew he was dead as he did kill himself before the town vanished. But maybe he was brought back while they were in FTL and then the new curse struck and he also lost memories from the year in FTL?

Thats the thing, it would be idiotic for a Curse to be able to be broken by commiting suicide. We have not seen a Female Dark one yet, so it could still be that the different skin Color is just because of that.

As for calling it the Rumple-Ego. It very well is a Ego and not his real Persona. He was not like that before he got cursed and he sure toughened up through it, but the whole giggly Madness stuff comes from the Curse which makes it his alter Ego and not his real Personality.

mr_kennedy
March 21st, 2014, 12:30 AM
i was wondering then if Cora is Zelina's mother who is her father?

tomstone
March 21st, 2014, 07:40 AM
i was wondering then if Cora is Zelina's mother who is her father?

My money is on Rumple. :D

Mrja84
March 21st, 2014, 09:05 AM
Thats the thing, it would be idiotic for a Curse to be able to be broken by commiting suicide. We have not seen a Female Dark one yet, so it could still be that the different skin Color is just because of that.

As for calling it the Rumple-Ego. It very well is a Ego and not his real Persona. He was not like that before he got cursed and he sure toughened up through it, but the whole giggly Madness stuff comes from the Curse which makes it his alter Ego and not his real Personality.

Well, the first Dark One, tricked Rumple into killing him, so I thought that implied he couldn't do it himself. Though Rumple may have "tricked" the curse by having his death occur due to kill Pan.

That whole giggling thing of his, I believe was just a front. His business face if you will. When Bella was living with him he wasn't all giggling and kooky. He only seemed to be that way as a means to intimidate or play with the people he was dealing with.

But in the cage, he was only giggling when he was by himself as if being brought back to the land of the living caused him to suffer psychologically

garhkal
March 21st, 2014, 01:27 PM
Just a little sidenote, the messed up Family Tree just got a little crazier. Now Henry got an Aunt. I really dont want to be at that Thanksgiving Dinner. :D

Tell me about it.... Though technically she would not be a relation, since regina is only a foster mother..


My money is on Rumple. :D

That would make the family tree even more convoluted.

hedwig
March 21st, 2014, 01:29 PM
Tell me about it.... Though technically she would not be a relation, since regina is only a foster mother..


Actually, since Regina adopted Henry, she is his mother, not his foster mother. :)

mr_kennedy
March 21st, 2014, 04:44 PM
I was going to say Rumple, this show loves messing with the Charming's family tree

it would explain her green of skin if cora was with rumple while he was the dark one, with Rumple's nickname being The Crocodile and all

jelgate
March 21st, 2014, 05:08 PM
I hope it isn't Rumple. Its too obvious and a cliché. I also don't think it is Rumple

rkgardner2003
March 22nd, 2014, 05:24 AM
I hope it isn't Rumple. Its too obvious and a cliché. I also don't think it is Rumple

I agree!!!

AresLover452
March 22nd, 2014, 12:32 PM
If Rumple was Zelena's father, he would have noticed Cora ripe with his child.... and so would the Prince and the King. And as jelgate said, it;s too obvious and cliche. OUAT writers don't do too many things that are OBVIOUS, or seemingly obvious.

jelgate
March 22nd, 2014, 12:46 PM
If Rumple was Zelena's father, he would have noticed Cora ripe with his child.... and so would the Prince and the King. And as jelgate said, it;s too obvious and cliche. OUAT writers don't do too many things that are OBVIOUS, or seemingly obvious.

One word: Balefire

AresLover452
March 22nd, 2014, 01:48 PM
That's why I said TOO MANY. there are some things they try to be sneaky about.... but fans figure it out.

tomstone
March 22nd, 2014, 04:32 PM
If Rumple was Zelena's father, he would have noticed Cora ripe with his child.... and so would the Prince and the King. And as jelgate said, it;s too obvious and cliche. OUAT writers don't do too many things that are OBVIOUS, or seemingly obvious.

We loose Coras Timeline after she met Rumple and removed her Heart. So at that point it is hard to believe she fell in Love with anyone else afterwards. I belief Zelenas claim is true, otherwise she would have no Reason to go after Regina.

It may be obvious and I have been wrong alot before, but I dont see how else they could spin this.

Baron Of Hell
January 12th, 2015, 07:09 AM
Glad to see Rush back. If he is back dos that mean Pan is also back.

So the wicked witch hates Regina because mommy chose Regina over her. I'm guessing WW will kidnap Henry at some point. I hope we get to see more Oz characters.

jelgate
January 12th, 2015, 09:43 AM
Have you seen how Rumple came back? Its pretty clear only he can return.

garhkal
January 16th, 2015, 02:21 PM
Is it? Or since rumple used the dagger to kill both him and daddy dearest, did it open the chance pan could return?

jelgate
January 16th, 2015, 05:38 PM
No. Only the dark one can come back

garhkal
January 17th, 2015, 01:04 PM
It makes me wonder. If neil had not have died, would he have regretted seeing what's become of daddy dearest?

jelgate
January 17th, 2015, 06:12 PM
Ummm Yes. It would prove he hasnt changed

garhkal
January 18th, 2015, 12:28 PM
And as a linked q..
Would rumple be on this current path to break free of the dagger, HAD neil not died bringing him back from the dead?

jelgate
January 18th, 2015, 05:26 PM
I doubt it. He will always crave power

rushy
January 19th, 2015, 12:27 PM
When Neal was alive, he was a constant reminder to him that "all magic comes with a price" so no, I don't think he would be doing this.