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GateWorld
December 8th, 2013, 12:01 AM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/sleepy-hollow/s1/the-golem/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/the-golem1-160x120.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">SLEEPY HOLLOW - SEASON ONE</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="4"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/sleepy-hollow/s1/the-golem/" STYLE="text-decoration: none">THE GOLEM</A></FONT>
<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 110</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Ichabod enlists the help of Henry Parrish to communicate with Katrina and learn more about his family, but his search for the truth unwittingly releases a new danger in Sleepy Hollow.</DIV>
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Spimman
December 10th, 2013, 06:54 AM
This was a pretty sad episode for me. To see Ichabod's child have his parents taken away only to be raised in an abusive kids home and eventually be consumed by his own rage. I hope that is the end of his story and he is considered to be resting in piece. I'd hate to have him still be alive yet evil.

On the bright side, it looks like our favorite sin eater Henry will be part of the regular team. I like his character.

Morgania
December 10th, 2013, 10:26 AM
Did Ichabod's grand-kids have powers too? His poor sun had nobody to help him control/ understand his powers. Since I learned Ichabod had descendants, I kinda wondered if the Henry was one of them. Because that would just be so 'destined'.

hedwig
December 10th, 2013, 01:34 PM
Did Ichabod's grand-kids have powers too? His poor sun had nobody to help him control/ understand his powers. Since I learned Ichabod had descendants, I kinda wondered if the Henry was one of them. Because that would just be so 'destined'.

Ichabod only had one son, who was killed by the coven, and who apparently never had any children. It's doubtful the coven would have allowed him to have children. So there would be no further descendants. Unless Ichabod had brothers or sisters, in which case, they wouldn't have any powers, since those came from katrina.

Morgania
December 10th, 2013, 01:54 PM
I thought they said his son got married and had a kid.

m&mnm317
December 10th, 2013, 02:05 PM
I thought they said his son got married and had a kid.

Not that I remember. They showed Jeremy when he was a teen, possibly pre-teen, being buried in a grave in the woods. I doubt that he had any children given how he grew up.

m&mnm317
December 10th, 2013, 02:18 PM
And now for my two cents -

Despite how horribly sad the episode was, I really liked it. It was great to have them delving into Ichabod's emotions more. And Katrina's as well, really. I felt so bad for her when she gave Jeremy up and walked away; I dang near cried along with her when she'd left..but that's probably just because I'm a mother and couldn't imagine having to do that.

Can I just say how incredibly creepy that doll was?? I mean, seriously, couldn't Katrina have made it look less like a tree-monster-guy and more like an actual person?

And while I like Parish, I hope they don't bring him back too much. There's something about his character that kind of bugs me and I'm not sure what it is. It doesn't help that every time I see him I think Lord Denethor, lol.

YAY FOR ICHABOD WHUMP!! I don't care if it's slight (the physical at least), I'm excited to have it in there for longer than four seconds. :D I'm actually thinking of embellishing it a bit and adding more to the end of the episode via fanfic but we'll see about that. And though I'm not usually one for emotional whump, I was glad to see it as well. My heart ached for Ichabod and how he must have felt, learning how his child grew up - alone, without someone to love him, etc - and my mother's heart ached for the child as well, the poor boy.

I'm not sure how I felt about the Orlando/Captain scenes in this episode. I mean, they kind of have me curious about what the demons are planning but at the same time, the entire scene got dwarfed by Ichabod's story line a bit as well so I've mostly forgotten about it. Although, I will say that Orlando looked pretty dang good in the scenes he was in - I think it was the clothes; they reminded me of something my husband would wear and I have a thing for black guys :D

I will say that at first I was worried that they were going to somehow string the whole Abbie's-ancestors-taking-Crane's-child-thing into Abbie being descended from Crane but I am SO GLAD that I was wrong. That would have been a wee bit creepy to say the least.

I'm not sure how I feel about them possibly bringing Jeremy into the picture.. I mean, a part of me thinks that if his heart was stopped magically then it can be restarted magically and if Jeremy had that much power, I'm wondering if the things of the earth left his body alone and that it is possibly - magically - preserved. I think I like the idea of bringing him back to see him get some happiness via finding a father, but I'm not sure how that would work out for he story line as a whole, either.

I think that's about it :D

hedwig
December 10th, 2013, 02:25 PM
I thought they said his son got married and had a kid.

That would have been an interesting marriage. A man with all those magical powers (fueled by rage), and a gollum hanging around to protect him.

Morgania
December 10th, 2013, 03:45 PM
That would have been an interesting marriage. A man with all those magical powers (fueled by rage), and a gollum hanging around to protect him.

He could have found somebody who was related to a witch.

mandogater
December 10th, 2013, 05:48 PM
A really interesting episode, especially if you're into emotional whumping of Crane. It really sucked about what happened to Crane's son.

On the upside we now know who stuck Katrina where she is. They just have to find some one else in the coven and convince them to release her.

I'm really interested in seeing what becomes of the captain. It seems the demons now know his weak point.

The sin eater interests me. Hopefully they don't overuse him.

squirrely1
December 10th, 2013, 08:36 PM
Do we have to spoiler tag things if this topic is for the episode? :S I would think people will only come here if they have watched it. I hope.....either way I'm not spoilering this.

I like the show. I love the relationship between Crane and the Lt. and think it's interesting. I thought this ep was good however it just seem a tad over the top that they can get so much done in one episode. I'd like to have a longer story arc just to make it a bit more believable. I mean to track down do much information and just waltz into the carnival to talk to the dark sisters was a tad unbelievable..he didn't even have to pay admission? :lol: :P no on a serious note.. I think it's not the last we've heard of his son....I think Crane will have to put him down and what a horrible thing to have to do :S :( But that is only my speculation.

Morgania
December 10th, 2013, 09:58 PM
Did I imagine the part were they said Crane junior married and had a kid?

m&mnm317
December 10th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Do we have to spoiler tag things if this topic is for the episode? :S I would think people will only come here if they have watched it. I hope.....either way I'm not spoilering this.

I like the show. I love the relationship between Crane and the Lt. and think it's interesting. I thought this ep was good however it just seem a tad over the top that they can get so much done in one episode. I'd like to have a longer story arc just to make it a bit more believable. I mean to track down do much information and just waltz into the carnival to talk to the dark sisters was a tad unbelievable..he didn't even have to pay admission? :lol: :P no on a serious note.. I think it's not the last we've heard of his son....I think Crane will have to put him down and what a horrible thing to have to do :S :( But that is only my speculation.

I spoilered it because it was long, not because of the topic. ;)

Spimman
December 11th, 2013, 08:13 AM
Did I imagine the part were they said Crane junior married and had a kid?

If not, I missed it. He seemed about 15 to m when he was killed/frozen.

AlbinoMonkeyC
December 11th, 2013, 01:08 PM
I can't help but wonder if he is still alive. Otherwise, why would the Golem come out?

Booklover
December 12th, 2013, 04:46 PM
Did I imagine the part were they said Crane junior married and had a kid?

I think that Ichabod was assuming that Jeremy would have married and then have children. I believe that Jeremy was in his teens when the coven killed him, so he didn't really have a chance to do so.

min min light
December 12th, 2013, 10:27 PM
I often miss things so I wouldn't trust my own perception but, I have not seen anyone mention a wife and kid anywhere at all, including in recaps.

Does anyone happen to know, is it a solid lock that Abbie is the other Witness? Because Mollusk said "the second witness," and I've been watching TV for about a million years by now so my radar goes off when the dialogue is cagey like that. Ditto with the Saint's name - there are other Saint names besides Luke - like, Abigail, Andrew and Jeremy.

hedwig
December 13th, 2013, 11:02 AM
I often miss things so I wouldn't trust my own perception but, I have not seen anyone mention a wife and kid anywhere at all, including in recaps.

Does anyone happen to know, is it a solid lock that Abbie is the other Witness? Because Mollusk said "the second witness," and I've been watching TV for about a million years by now so my radar goes off when the dialogue is cagey like that. Ditto with the Saint's name - there are other Saint names besides Luke - like, Abigail, Andrew and Jeremy.

That seems to be the direction being taken. Signs seem to point to Abbie as the second witness.

Does anyone remember if Captain Irving's first name has been mentioned?

squirrely1
December 15th, 2013, 07:42 PM
I can't help but wonder if he is still alive. Otherwise, why would the Golem come out?
well they said they put a spell on him to hex him and make his heart stop...but they never really elaborated on that so to me it can be reversed. I just do not think we've seen the end of Jeremy.

Ian-S
December 17th, 2013, 05:09 PM
I was going to say too that they only confirmed he was buried in the ground and they hex'd him, not that they actually, technically, killed him, they just assumed they did because they never saw him again.

They then sent the Golom to purgatory with Katrina, and it was Ichabod who let him out.

Wouldn't it be a twist if it turned out Moloch was Jeremy...

(I don't know the mythology behind the original story btw, so excuse me if I'm way off base).

Morgania
December 19th, 2013, 11:28 PM
I think I misunderstood Ichabod's estimation as happening.

IamDKScully
January 24th, 2014, 03:13 PM
I love the way they keep intertwining Icabod and Abby's past.

This was very sad, but knowing this show as it has gone so far, this is probably not the end of things.

I think they are really struggling to integrate Irving's storyline which is shame because I like him.