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GateWorld
September 29th, 2013, 01:08 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 308</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">With their trust of Rumplestiltskin running thin the group discovers Pan's true purpose with Henry, and sail to Skull Rock to try and stop him. Meanwhile, Rumple recalls his childhood and his desperate attempt to start a new life with his father in Neverland.</DIV>
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Skydiver
November 17th, 2013, 05:36 PM
Twists and turns, twists and turns.

Quite the plot twist.

Can't wait til next week

tomstone
November 17th, 2013, 07:22 PM
OMG, I would like to punch Henry so hard right now. How could he have believed all of Pans Bull?

Well, anyways the Charming Family has now another Member to the Family. This makes me wonder all the more though. Was Neverland really just created by Rumpels Dad or just changed it? Every scene of it in the Past has it being Daytime with the Hourglass full, now its getting emptier and the Night is constant. Just guessing, but I would say Pan is sucking the life out of Neverland by staying there.

Just why is the Shadow a seperate entity? I thought he was supposed to be his?

hedwig
November 17th, 2013, 08:06 PM
I want to know how Pan can now have two hearts - or did he lose his real one somewhere along the way?

I'd like to smack Henry, as well. Saving magic is somehow bigger than the love of his family for him? Delusional kid.

I loved getting to find out Rumple's backstory, and the two old ladies who apparently raised him after his father abandoned him. Which makes me wonder how Rumple got back to the Enchanted Forest from Neverland. Did the shadow send him back?

mr_kennedy
November 17th, 2013, 09:30 PM
Great episode

Someone should do a family tree for henry lol

I think maybe the shadow was the truest believer before Rumple's dad, and failed to gain more time so he became a shadow

garhkal
November 17th, 2013, 10:33 PM
Wow. just wow. I missed the first 18 min or so of the ep due to the news going on and on about weather issues.. and they didn't even start the show at the beginning.
As for Henry. IF he dies (though doubt it), serves him right!

mr_kennedy
November 17th, 2013, 11:10 PM
I want to know how Pan can now have two hearts - or did he lose his real one somewhere along the way?

His a Timelord :p

Skydiver
November 18th, 2013, 03:18 AM
I do think the theme is....visit but don't stay. You can't live and thrive on Magic, you live in the real world.

Part of the issue is Pan living there...and wanting people to stay there. Hasn't it been implied that he has to all but keep the kids captive to keep them there? Maybe why he wants children, keep himself feeling young and also more malleable than adults. He wants to live in his childhood forever, forces people to hang as his 'friends' and then won't let anyone leave.

I'm betting that it's revealed that the shadow let Rumple go

tomstone
November 18th, 2013, 11:27 AM
I'm betting that it's revealed that the shadow let Rumple go

I would say that is a sure bet. I mean the Shadow separated him from his Dad and next instance we see him he is in front of the Womens home crying. So it probably just happened.

AresLover452
November 18th, 2013, 11:44 AM
I knew Pan and Rumple were related... but... NOT LIKE THAT!!! O_O!! Mind. Blown !LMAO! I love this show so much!

majorsal
November 18th, 2013, 01:11 PM
that ending really surprised me!! :p

the actor they picked for rumple's dad did a really good job of coming off rumple-like.

henry... dummy :rolleyes: :p

i felt sorry for rump, and wanted to knock his son/neal in the back of the head.

VampyreWraith
November 18th, 2013, 02:39 PM
I really enjoyed the episode. Loved how Emma, Neal, Regina, and Rumpel ended up working together to try and save Henry(even if they didn't completely trust Rumpel's motives). Loved the look Regina gave Rumpel when he asked her if she remembered the spell(to knock out the lost boys).

Loved seeing more of Rumpel's past. Loved the reveal of who Pan really was. I loved the interaction between Rumpel and Pan in the cave. Earlier in the season I thought he might be related to Rumpel(like maybe a brother or even a really close childhood friend), but I really didn't think he would end up being his father until this episode. Poor Henry, he's got a pretty messed up family. I felt bad for Henry, he thought he was being a hero by giving up his heart, but instead he was just being played by Pan(his great-grandfather).

AresLover452
November 18th, 2013, 10:57 PM
I really wanted to GIBBS Head slap Neal in this episode! LOL! Things are really picking up and Pan is public enemy #1. Everyone is out to get him !LOL!

mr_kennedy
November 19th, 2013, 01:13 AM
I knew Pan and Rumple were related... but... NOT LIKE THAT!!! O_O!! Mind. Blown !LMAO! I love this show so much!

I know right? i expected them to be brothers

rkgardner2003
November 19th, 2013, 03:01 AM
I was totally caught off guard about Pan being Rumple's father, (I missed his doll being named Peter Pan) what an awesome twist! I also thought the actor playing Rumple's father did a good job, even had a bit of his giggle. How did Rumple become such a coward, I'd say he was pretty brave as a kid! (ignore his fear of climbing those trees, that was just being smart ;)) Too bad we have to wait 2 weeks for the next one!

garhkal
November 19th, 2013, 01:08 PM
I really wanted to GIBBS Head slap Neal in this episode! LOL! Things are really picking up and Pan is public enemy #1. Everyone is out to get him !LOL!

If anything i would give the "Gibbs head slap of doom" to Henry..

hedwig
November 19th, 2013, 01:23 PM
I really wanted to GIBBS Head slap Neal in this episode! LOL! Things are really picking up and Pan is public enemy #1. Everyone is out to get him !LOL!

I wouldn't. Just because Rumple has been repentant about things he's done doesn't mean Neal is going to trust him immediately. He's had way too many years to build up a strong distrust of anything his father says, and it's not going to take a few days of repentance for Neal to change his own mind about Rumple.


If anything i would give the "Gibbs head slap of doom" to Henry..

Yes. If anyone deserves a head slap, it's Henry!

garhkal
November 21st, 2013, 11:06 AM
I wouldn't. Just because Rumple has been repentant about things he's done doesn't mean Neal is going to trust him immediately. He's had way too many years to build up a strong distrust of anything his father says, and it's not going to take a few days of repentance for Neal to change his own mind about Rumple.


That's assuming any of them realize pan put rump into that box and can get him out.

Briangate78
November 21st, 2013, 02:01 PM
Well at least it seems like the story is coming to a head, it has been kind of dragging this season.

AresLover452
November 23rd, 2013, 11:42 AM
I'll be happy when they go back to StoryBrooke and get away from Neverland. I'm watching just because Rmplestiltskin is back in his Dark One leathers! LOL!

Mrja84
November 24th, 2013, 08:37 AM
I'll be happy when they go back to StoryBrooke and get away from Neverland. I'm watching just because Rmplestiltskin is back in his Dark One leathers! LOL!

That's actually a new look. He had a different outfit in Neverland. His current outfit is almost Mad Maxx

garhkal
November 24th, 2013, 10:16 PM
I've wondered why if they are back in a land of magic, why rump's image has not shifted to his 'dark one vistage'?

Mrja84
November 25th, 2013, 11:23 AM
I've wondered why if they are back in a land of magic, why rump's image has not shifted to his 'dark one vistage'?

Some impact of the curse. The curse still prevents people from leaving Storybrooke, without aid of magic, even though it is "broken".

rushy
November 27th, 2013, 12:19 AM
Some impact of the curse. The curse still prevents people from leaving Storybrooke, without aid of magic, even though it is "broken".

Rumple brought magic back to Storybrooke RIGHT before the curse could be entirely broken. So... it's sort of malfunctioning now?

Mrja84
November 27th, 2013, 08:03 AM
Rumple brought magic back to Storybrooke RIGHT before the curse could be entirely broken. So... it's sort of malfunctioning now?

But I thought he did that after what's her name, the mom of Henry....chosen person.....daughter of Snow White and Charming...lover of Hook and Neal....the blonde chick.....EMMA! Gosh that was hard to remember.

Anyway...Emma kissed Henry to break the curse and we saw that huge wave wash over the town and bring back people's memories.

Now I image the town and is considerable size since contains many, many of the population of the Enchanted Forest. But even then I cannot image that Rumpel's bring back Magic interfered with it.

Rumpel was surprised as anyone by the inability to leave town without his memories intact.

rushy
November 27th, 2013, 10:23 PM
But WHY? Why does the magic keep half the curse running?

garhkal
November 29th, 2013, 01:14 PM
Perhaps only half the curse got broken>

rushy
November 30th, 2013, 03:08 PM
How does that even work?!?!
Magic on Once Upon A Time is as technological as technology is magical on Doctor Who these days!!

Mrja84
December 1st, 2013, 06:41 AM
Perhaps only half the curse got broken>

Then why has no one seek to state it was not fully broken. Everyone was like "the curse is broken, yay!". End of story.

tomstone
December 1st, 2013, 08:42 AM
Then why has no one seek to state it was not fully broken. Everyone was like "the curse is broken, yay!". End of story.

Since that is kind of obvious with Storybrooke still being intact and the inhabitants unable to leave. Rumple apparently did not anticipate this, so it was not on purpose. Question is what needs to be done for it to be fully broken?

Mrja84
December 1st, 2013, 11:21 AM
Since that is kind of obvious with Storybrooke still being intact and the inhabitants unable to leave. Rumple apparently did not anticipate this, so it was not on purpose. Question is what needs to be done for it to be fully broken?

But no character has talked about the curse not being broken at all. Just that the curse is still in effect. Rumpel only tried to circumvent the Storybrooke barrier and not end it.

No one has thrown blame toward him and at this point no one really wants to leave Storybrooke in terms of the characters we've seen so far.

I chalk it up to the writers just moving focus away form that and not having developed a real reason for it at the time.

garhkal
December 1st, 2013, 12:28 PM
Same here. Perhaps they were thinking of developing it more, but got overruled.