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GateWorld
September 23rd, 2013, 02:22 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/agents-of-shield/s1/0-8-4/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/0-8-4-160x120.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. - SEASON ONE</FONT>
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<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">When the team travels to Peru to recover a powerful alien object buried inside ancient ruins, they run afoul of both the local authorities and a group of violent rebels.</DIV>
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poundpuppy29
October 1st, 2013, 08:06 PM
I enjoyed this ep my signal kept going out but from what I saw I liked it

mr_kennedy
October 1st, 2013, 09:33 PM
I enjoyed the second episode quite abit, Found Fitz/smmons to be slightly less annoying this episode maybe they didn't have as much Caffeine? lol the chick was still abit too perky tho

Nick Fury Cameo at the end :eek: didn't expect that nice touch

Brother Freyr
October 2nd, 2013, 01:51 AM
The requisite team-building episode.

Baron Of Hell
October 2nd, 2013, 07:13 AM
Hated this episode but liked the bad mother F$%$%$ at the end. The story was bad. The fighting was bad. The characters were boring. I'll still give it a few more episodes though. I doubt I'll change my mind on it though. The tone is off for me.

Spimman
October 2nd, 2013, 12:21 PM
This episode wasn't as good as the pilot, but was still fun. Ironically the episode was about the "team" needing to find some chemistry, but I feel like some of the acting\cast needs to work on chemistry. A few details about the characters and their stiff interactions bugged me, but I'm hoping they'll gel more as the season progresses.

How much did ratings drop?

Selina
October 2nd, 2013, 01:49 PM
Nothing to write home about this week, but I still have hope that it can work out. Not the first show that starts a bit slow/awkward.

yukin1990
October 2nd, 2013, 01:51 PM
This ep more focus on team building. What is Skye relationship with the Rising Tide?
ex-Human Target guest star(Camilla Reyes - Leonor Varela) also in this ep, too!!
And Nick Fury Cameo at the end ....Nice one

Wyrminarrd
October 2nd, 2013, 03:58 PM
The writing on this show just doesn't seem to be very good. As my brother put it "things were way to one the nose" in the writing where in scene A they set it up and in scene B they followed it up with a hammer. There was just no subtlety in it.

I'm guessing the rumors about Joss not being happy with the shows writing are true, so hopefully his intervention will give us better episodes later in the season.

Cmdr Sean Coll
October 2nd, 2013, 05:17 PM
I liked this episode. and we've now discovered the call sign for the "bus" is SHIELD 616. A little nod from the writers and Joss to Earth-616 the prime marvel universe in the marvel meta-verse.

Gollumpus
October 2nd, 2013, 07:58 PM
I didn't care for the episode. Yeah it was a team building episode. Yes, the show is still developing and the actors are finding their characters. Sadly, it is not grabbing me.

Nit-picking follows...

1.) May is the only person doing the piloting? I suppose that someone else will acquire the skill when it is dramatically convenient.

2.) The main cast are the only people on that plane? It seems to me that there should be at least 4 to 6 other guys crewing that plane (and maybe even a strike team of six or so guys for back up and to protect the plane, and Lola).

3.) There are no counter-measures on that plane? The early comics with SHIELD reveled in the James Bond gadgets. One would think that there should have been something which the crew would have at their disposal to incapacitate an opposing force without having to blow a hole in the plane using a conveniently placed super weapon.

4.) The final fight scene on the plane was kind of silly.

regards,
G.

Brother Freyr
October 2nd, 2013, 09:07 PM
4.) The final fight scene on the plane was kind of silly.That bothered me, too. I tell myself, "It's a comic book; give it leeway." But still, that was very, very silly. The inflatable raft plugging the hole? Nuh-uh. I'm fine with alien technology, techno-babble, super-powers, etc., but I expect the mundane stuff to follow our mundane rules.

Sp!der
October 3rd, 2013, 03:59 AM
I liked it, not as much as I should like it (depending on my taste in shows) but I have to keep in mind that is still a show which develops itself although it is set in a established universe and at least Agent Coulson is the only know which works around but maybe, just maybe the new casts need an episode without him to really shine out and to develop their characters to its full potential, I mean as much as I love Agent Coulson, he is always stealing the show from the newbies and maybe the show should not depend so much on him but on the other characters as well because they have to be developed, not that much Agent Coulson.

Still, I liked it, and I am firmly positive that by the end of this season the show will become really awesome! :) ..yeah the end with Fury was kind of awesome but they should not over do it because otherwise it wouldnt be "special" anymore and I really did not think that we see this kind of person so soon, but I liked his cameo ;)

BruTak
October 4th, 2013, 12:32 PM
Two episodes in and the writers are using the "Start the story in the middle to make your audience think they've missed something, and have the rest of the episode play out in a flashback" bit.

Good grief...:rolleyes:

BruTak
October 4th, 2013, 01:14 PM
Ok, I kind of forgive them. But it's only because of the nod to Dick Tracy.

knowles2
October 4th, 2013, 04:42 PM
It was better than last week.

Anyone think Shield really dispose of that weapon into space, Nick Fury doesn't seem like someone that disposes of a working tesseract weapon, something they have difficulty creating themselves. I don't, I got the feeling we will be seeing that weapon again.

It a shame that Sky just turn out to be a Rising Tide lackey, instead of their leader, I really hope they don't do the obvious storyline of her turning against the rising tide to save her new colleagues/friends, which would be so predictable.


2.) The main cast are the only people on that plane? It seems to me that there should be at least 4 to 6 other guys crewing that plane (and maybe even a strike team of six or so guys for back up and to protect the plane, and Lola).
That one thing that annoy me slightly, this was suppose to be an investigation team, , not a combat team, so yes it would have made sense for them to have a combat team on standby at the aircraft to extract them, and they seem to have left the aircraft abandon, anyone could have took it.
It was also odd that they didn't take any security precautions with their guests.

I enjoyed seeing Nick Fury.

Sue_Jackson
October 4th, 2013, 08:21 PM
Eh....it was ok.....but I have to say that some of the acting was kinda lame. Those science twins are very annoying! If they are suppose to be comic relief....I find them more annoying than funny. The actors playing the fumbling scientist are really bad. Not good at banter or techno babble. (They could use some coaching from Amanda Tapping and David Hewlett. ;) :p) Didn't care for the rebel chick either. Felt she was kinda weak for a rebel.

Ming-Na Wen's character was they only one I liked and felt was the most convincing. Plus....she can really kick some ass. ;) Looks like this episode was a transition ep to get now the characters and building of the "Agents".

Quizziard
October 4th, 2013, 10:06 PM
I had slightly more concern that the plane was so easily taken over: like where did the rebels get a really very customised device for specifically attacking a cockpit door? One or two great lines of dialogue, mostly for Colson: "... and you ARE a rocket scientist!"

BruTak
October 5th, 2013, 02:31 AM
I had slightly more concern that the plane was so easily taken over: like where did the rebels get a really very customised device for specifically attacking a cockpit door? One or two great lines of dialogue, mostly for Colson: "... and you ARE a rocket scientist!"

Presumably from whoever wanted the artefact.

Admiral Mappalazarou
October 5th, 2013, 09:02 AM
Anyone else get the feeling that The Rising Tide is some modernist revival attempt of HYDRA? I feel that Skye is only being manipulated by her old employers. I also get the feeling that Agent Coulson knows about her loyalty to them, which is why he is keeping her close (which would explain his enthusiasm to keep her on board even though everyone - including Nick Fury - are advising him otherwise).

Also did anyone else notice that Coulson keeps referring to his after-death vacation as 'a magical place.' Exactly those words!

Anyway, I give a full overview of the episode as well as a review here (http://mediablasphemy.com/2013/film/screen-reviews/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-s1-e2-review/).

I really enjoyed the episode and look forward to next weeks!

knowles2
October 5th, 2013, 09:34 AM
Anyone else get the feeling that The Rising Tide is some modernist revival attempt of HYDRA? Hope not, I am hope they stick with the idea that they are a good by oppose Shield and secrecy hacker network. An I would love Sky to be the leader of it.




I feel that Skye is only being manipulated by her old employers. I got a feeling you are right but that would be terribly predictable, an she will probably turn against them to save the team.


I also get the feeling that Agent Coulson knows about her loyalty to them, which is why he is keeping her close (which would explain his enthusiasm to keep her on board even though everyone - including Nick Fury - are advising him otherwise). It does feel like he working on a long term plan. Not sure what the end game is through. But Fury doesn't know about it. It probably connected to him being bought back alive and him having to repay someone for that gift.


Also did anyone else notice that Coulson keeps referring to his after-death vacation as 'a magical place.' Exactly those words! Not why watching the episode but I read about it on another forum about him saying that phase repeatedly.

An by the way those soldiers that tried to take over the plane weren't rebels, they were peruvian soldiers wanted to use the weapons to defeat rebels forces. Through that a bit idiotic because the weapon clearly wasn't design for jungle combat, or for taking out small rebel units, it was design for punching holes through planets.

Gollumpus
October 5th, 2013, 10:10 AM
Presumably from whoever wanted the artefact.

Who gave them the drill device? That's easy to answer: the writers. They needed the Peruvians to have a means of getting through the cockpit door without alerting May. The question is *why* would these guys have such a device as this drill/gas bomb with them, and what can we infer from it?

This drill device doesn't seem like it would have a lot of use out in the jungle. It makes little to no sense for them to have it as part of their regular gear, so I'm thinking they wouldn't carry it around unless, they actually knew that there would be a very good chance they'd be using it. Having that device says that the plan which Reyes had all along was:

1.) Get on the plane (the Bus).

2.) Seduce and incapacitate Coulson.

3.) Capture the rest of the crew.

4.) Gas May in the cockpit and take control of the plane.

5.) Secure the 0-8-4.

6.) Somehow get the 0-8-4 and themselves off of the plane and then go take over Peru.


This seems a rather complicated operation and one which would have had to have been preplanned, not something which they decided to do as a fall-back when plan A went south with the rebel attack.

I see this as poor writing.


regards,
G.

Gollumpus
October 5th, 2013, 10:18 AM
Anyone else get the feeling that The Rising Tide is some modernist revival attempt of HYDRA? I feel that Skye is only being manipulated by her old employers. I also get the feeling that Agent Coulson knows about her loyalty to them, which is why he is keeping her close (which would explain his enthusiasm to keep her on board even though everyone - including Nick Fury - are advising him otherwise).


It seems a bit of a stretch that no one would be trying to monitor her communications, even if she is really good at covering her tracks. I'm thinking that the powers that be (Coulson on up) are using her to get closer to Rising Tide.


regards,
G.

Gollumpus
October 5th, 2013, 10:31 AM
Hope not, I am hope they stick with the idea that they are a good by oppose Shield and secrecy hacker network. An I would love Sky to be the leader of it.



I got a feeling you are right but that would be terribly predictable, an she will probably turn against them to save the team.
It does feel like he working on a long term plan. Not sure what the end game is through. But Fury doesn't know about it. It probably connected to him being bought back alive and him having to repay someone for that gift.

Not why watching the episode but I read about it on another forum about him saying that phase repeatedly.

An by the way those soldiers that tried to take over the plane weren't rebels, they were peruvian soldiers wanted to use the weapons to defeat rebels forces. Through that a bit idiotic because the weapon clearly wasn't design for jungle combat, or for taking out small rebel units, it was design for punching holes through planets.

Yup.

It would be more interesting if Rising Tide was a separate organization. This being said, in order for them to be a real threat the writers are going to have to have a "Big Bad" in the background who are using RT to further a different agenda.

As to Skye running RT, are you seeing her as a Miranda Zero ("Global Frequency")?

regards,
G.

jelgate
October 5th, 2013, 10:55 AM
Who gave them the drill device? That's easy to answer: the writers. They needed the Peruvians to have a means of getting through the cockpit door without alerting May. The question is *why* would these guys have such a device as this drill/gas bomb with them, and what can we infer from it?

This drill device doesn't seem like it would have a lot of use out in the jungle. It makes little to no sense for them to have it as part of their regular gear, so I'm thinking they wouldn't carry it around unless, they actually knew that there would be a very good chance they'd be using it. Having that device says that the plan which Reyes had all along was:

1.) Get on the plane (the Bus).

2.) Seduce and incapacitate Coulson.

3.) Capture the rest of the crew.

4.) Gas May in the cockpit and take control of the plane.

5.) Secure the 0-8-4.

6.) Somehow get the 0-8-4 and themselves off of the plane and then go take over Peru.


This seems a rather complicated operation and one which would have had to have been preplanned, not something which they decided to do as a fall-back when plan A went south with the rebel attack.

I see this as poor writing.


regards,
G.
Ah the good ol its poor writring excuse because I do not know everything in one episode. That one never gets old

knowles2
October 5th, 2013, 11:46 AM
Yup.

It would be more interesting if Rising Tide was a separate organization. This being said, in order for them to be a real threat the writers are going to have to have a "Big Bad" in the background who are using RT to further a different agenda.

As to Skye running RT, are you seeing her as a Miranda Zero ("Global Frequency")?

regards,
G.
It would be cool if she does turn out to be something like Miranda Zero and Rising Tide exactly like Global Frequency. She could also be Aleph, which in a way would be cooler as she could dispatch Rising Tide agents to help the team out or to record the team actions on mission.

Gollumpus
October 5th, 2013, 11:52 AM
Ah the good ol its poor writring excuse because I do not know everything in one episode. That one never gets old

Yeah, attempting sarcasm rather than actually speaking to the issues being discussed. I always appreciate the superior attitude of your responses. Thanks for this. :)


"0-8-4" had bad writing. The events on the plane were contrived. It was bad writing because it was contrived, not because I am expecting to have all of the answers presented to me by the end of the episode.

So do you think this Peruvian thing is going to be an on-going story arc?

Or do you believe that the 0-8-4 from this episode will be the focus of a season long story arc? Perhaps next week it gets stolen, and then Coulson gets it back the following episode? And maybe the week after that they won't talk about it at all because they are out having shawarmas, but when they get back to the office they discover that someone has stolen it. Again.


regards,
G.

Gollumpus
October 5th, 2013, 11:54 AM
It would be cool if she does turn out to be something like Miranda Zero and Rising Tide exactly like Global Frequency. She could also be Aleph, which in a way would be cooler as she could dispatch Rising Tide agents to help the team out or to record the team actions on mission.

While this does sound like fun, I suspect it will complicate things a bit too much. :)

regards,
G.

jelgate
October 5th, 2013, 12:00 PM
Its more cynical than superior. I've seen to many people take that reasoning to call it poor writing. All or most TV is contrived. Who knows what is to come. Its way to early to pass judgement and just dismiss these all as fillers.

BruTak
October 5th, 2013, 12:02 PM
I wonder if we'll get a cameo by Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker at some point?

Spider-Man was conspicuous by his absence during the Battle of New York.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
October 5th, 2013, 12:09 PM
That's the problem with having so many superheroes in one world.. If something major happens you expect them all to be there..

Maybe the next Spiderman film will mention where he was. Caulson is his school principal in the Ultimate Spiderman series so they're aware he exists.. in at least one version of the Marvel universe :p

BruTak
October 5th, 2013, 12:14 PM
Well, New York's a big place. Maybe he was in another part of the city?:)

knowles2
October 5th, 2013, 12:23 PM
Ah the good ol its poor writring excuse because I do not know everything in one episode. That one never gets old

That depends, this looks like it not going to be a heavily serialise show that going to see us get these questions answer down the road.

knowles2
October 5th, 2013, 12:27 PM
That's the problem with having so many superheroes in one world.. If something major happens you expect them all to be there..

Maybe the next Spiderman film will mention where he was. Caulson is his school principal in the Ultimate Spiderman series so they're aware he exists.. in at least one version of the Marvel universe :p

Didn't his father and mum work for Shield in one universe and Shield and Spiderman has certainly worked together in the past. But then Marvel doesn't own the film rights to Spiderman and that why there was no mention of him in the last film and why there will probably be no mention of alien invasion and the destruction of new york in the next spiderman. I expect even the villains would show up and defend the earth against alien invaders. .

Wyrminarrd
October 5th, 2013, 02:39 PM
The "Magical place" line does it make it seem like he's been programmed to respond that way when remembering Tahiti.

yukin1990
October 5th, 2013, 07:02 PM
That one thing that annoy me slightly, this was suppose to be an investigation team, , not a combat team, so yes it would have made sense for them to have a combat team on standby at the aircraft to extract them, and they seem to have left the aircraft abandon, anyone could have took it.
It was also odd that they didn't take any security precautions with their guests.



they do have their guests hand over their weapon into the case that is password protected!!! so you see the fight scene that the guest using hand gun fire on the team, this may be someone only concise their handgun not to hand it over. And as you guys know, S.H.I.E.L.D is a UN-like organization so they have Serenity-like stun grenade non-lethal weaponry at their disposal and sometimes need to work with local military. :jack:
Also i wonder are they using arc reactor in their 'BUS' engine because i don't see obvious refueling scene in the show.:sam:
Age and May are kind of a combat team replacement in the field for the lab rats and Skye!! Those two can replace the whole fire team in combat situation.
:jack::tealc:

also, i don't why guys want the superheros to steal the show, this show is about normal people, not superheros man!!!

ZRFTS
October 5th, 2013, 07:58 PM
also, i don't why guys want the superheros to steal the show, this show is about normal people, not superheros man!!!

It's in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there has to be superheros involved!

Starfist
October 8th, 2013, 12:32 PM
I enjoyed the episode.
It was nice to know that Coulson had a past.

And the cameo at the end was a pleasant surprise.

Gollumpus
October 8th, 2013, 11:21 PM
Its more cynical than superior. I've seen to many people take that reasoning to call it poor writing. All or most TV is contrived. Who knows what is to come. Its way to early to pass judgement and just dismiss these all as fillers.

I think you're jumping to conclusions regarding my position, not to mention my cynicism. :)

There very well could be connections between the events of this episode and a possible series arc (certainly it could be said that there is a link to the Avengers film), or this could be a one off although the events of the following episode to this suggest that energy sources could be part of an ongoing theme

I don't recall ever writing that I thought these episodes were "fillers". My concerns are not on the macro level but rather on the micro. There are things which do not make sense.

Having May as the only pilot doesn't make sense. Not having an actual flight crew on board does not make sense. Not having someone acting as a payload specialist does not make sense. Not having medical and military support on that plane doesn't make sense.

I would be willing to cut them some slack for this episode on this particular point. It could be seen as a case that they were on their first flight out etc and the rest of the crew were going to arrive "the following Tuesday". If some additional people were included for the following episode I would be happy. Such was not the case as we saw the next episode.

The intel and devices which the Peruvians had, and the plan to take over the plane was all a bit too convenient. They scream, "Easy plot device to advance the story!"

These are not deal breakers. They do not ruin the show, but they do detract from the enjoyment of watching the show (specifically, my enjoyment, and it's all about me :P).


regards,
G.

jelgate
October 9th, 2013, 02:08 PM
Those things sound like things where you have to separate TV from the real world. Hiring all those kind of people cost a TV show more money

Starsaber
October 9th, 2013, 02:10 PM
I wonder if we'll get a cameo by Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker at some point?

Spider-Man was conspicuous by his absence during the Battle of New York.

That's because Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to him (and as long as whoever it is keeps making Spiderman movies, they won't revert either. That's why they did a reboot so soon.)

mr_kennedy
October 9th, 2013, 02:36 PM
That's because Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to him (and as long as whoever it is keeps making Spiderman movies, they won't revert either. That's why they did a reboot so soon.)

I thought that was one of the reasons for a new spiderman movie series so that marvel could retain the rights, it has been talked about to feature spiderman in the avengers movies at some point

A spiderman cameo could be possible if they want to feature him in the avengers at some point but then again i guess that depends on how well this show does, i didnt expect a nick fury cameo so soon

Not every Marvel character has to be present during an alien invasion but you would think they would be, Classic Avengers comics only had the then current avengers line up deal with the skrulls or whoever, whenever they attacked

knowles2
October 9th, 2013, 03:44 PM
I thought that was one of the reasons for a new spiderman movie series so that marvel could retain the rights, it has been talked about to feature spiderman in the avengers movies at some point

A spiderman cameo could be possible if they want to feature him in the avengers at some point but then again i guess that depends on how well this show does, i didnt expect a nick fury cameo so soon

Not every Marvel character has to be present during an alien invasion but you would think they would be, Classic Avengers comics only had the then current avengers line up deal with the skrulls or whoever, whenever they attacked Sony own the rights to produce spider man movies. Marvel sold them years ago before they stumble onto the idea that they would make more money if they made the movies themselves.

mr_kennedy
October 9th, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sony own the rights to produce spider man movies. Marvel sold them years ago before they stumble onto the idea that they would make more money if they made the movies themselves.

I knew that i thought that was just the Sam Raimi/toby mcguire verse

Starsaber
October 9th, 2013, 06:33 PM
I knew that i thought that was just the Sam Raimi/toby mcguire verse

From what I understand, Sony has the rights as long as they put a new movie into production at least every X number of years. Toby didn't want to do any more and they didn't want to hand the rights back to Marvel given how hot superhero moves are right now, so they rebooted with Andrew Garfield. That's the same reason Fox is casting for a Fantastic Four reboot now.

Brother Freyr
October 10th, 2013, 10:33 AM
That's the same reason Fox is casting for a Fantastic Four reboot now.Let's hope the reboot isn't as nausea-inducing as the last one.

Looney
October 11th, 2013, 06:09 PM
Seriously, why don't they just forget about them.

And as far as this episode of Agents goes I have to say that it wasn't great, but I think it was a definite improvement over the pilot.

Gollumpus
October 13th, 2013, 11:29 PM
Those things sound like things where you have to separate TV from the real world. Hiring all those kind of people cost a TV show more money

Ah the good ol' "it will cost too much money excuse" to cover a dumb idea from the writing department... :P

True, costs do have to be kept down, and having an additional six or so guys (even without them having any lines), standing around in the background will increase the cost by a few thousand per episode (give or take, depending on shooting schedules). I still don't see that additional, minimal expenditure breaking the bank on whether this show is viable.

(Regarding upcoming episodes)

With May now declaring in the next episode that she wants back in on field work, this says to me that the writers/producers are going to have to bring in additional bodies, at least to fly the plane, or we will not see it used in many future episodes.


regards,
G.

jelgate
October 14th, 2013, 02:33 PM
I'm sorry you think its excuse but its a fact. Adding more extras means you have to take money out of the budget somewhere else. You woul have to sacrifice something else like visual effects or sets

garhkal
October 14th, 2013, 09:24 PM
Caught this ep (and #3) this afternoon. Not a bad episode. Some decent development for the characters, and i loved Samuel's verbal smacking of coleson.

Gollumpus
October 15th, 2013, 11:20 AM
I'm sorry you think its excuse but its a fact. Adding more extras means you have to take money out of the budget somewhere else. You woul have to sacrifice something else like visual effects or sets

I'm sorry if you believe that this is something of which I am unaware. Did you perhaps not read the rest of my previous post in its entirety, the stuff in the paragraph following the one sentence to which you appear to be responding? That's the part where I do recognize how additional extras could drive up costs.

This being said, with the magic of TV and film, the director could use some of the same extras to play the parts of the rebels AND play the part of the flight crew, merely by changing their outfits. Little to no additional cost in the extra budget, and a very small cost in wardrobe (if anything) since the outfits could be re-used for later episodes.

I suppose what my position comes down to is this: if this show is running on such a tight budget that an extra thousand dollars will break the bank, then I do not see this series making it to a second season (and yes, they were recently signed to 22 episodes).


Otherwise, do you have a response to my "spoilers" comment (a continuation from my previous post)?

As I see it, one of three things now happens with May going back into the field (end of episode #4):
1.) The series will introduce a recurring character to act as pilot, or at the very least have some extras take over the pilot duties.
2.) The writers will have fewer episodes where the the "Bus" is needed and therefore May will be freed up to do something.
3.) The series will continue as before having only one character being the 24/7 pilot, but who is now expected to also do field ops.

Of the options listed, the first makes the most sense to me. Option three makes the least sense to me, but since it satisfies your budgetary concerns I suspect it will be your preference. Option two is what they may well decide upon.


regards,
G.

jelgate
October 15th, 2013, 01:32 PM
Actually it would be extra cost as now you have to bill them for two separate extra roles

Gollumpus
October 15th, 2013, 03:48 PM
Actually it would be extra cost as now you have to bill them for two separate extra roles

Lol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

regards,
G.

Mrja84
October 16th, 2013, 02:12 PM
It was also odd that they didn't take any security precautions with their guests.

I know it was already mentioned but the bad guys handed over their weapons and then used seemingly plastic parts to create a gun.

But it's true, they asked them to hand over thier weapons instead of inspecting each of them and their stuff.


I'm sorry you think its excuse but its a fact. Adding more extras means you have to take money out of the budget somewhere else. You woul have to sacrifice something else like visual effects or sets

Well they already are sacrificing something(s) for whatever it is they gave us in this episode.

Trig
October 18th, 2013, 07:47 AM
Raft plugging hole, really?
Plane flying, guy falls out of hole, but doesnt get sucked into the two stupid engines at the back, really, did they not consult anyone with any sort of plane design knowledge on that one, 2 engines at the back that are in the jey wash of the inboard wing engines, wtf?!
Like Ming's fight though, mainly because I've only ever seen her in SGU, talk about a character change :lol:

lyncat
October 14th, 2017, 02:09 AM
1) The plane is largely auto-pilot, and Ward is also flight-capable.
2) The plane was meant to be the base and transport for a small strike/recon team. There are only accommodations for the 6 aboard. Others are not needed to crew the plane.