Cpt Kirk Diplomacy Works in History
Cpt Kirk Diplomacy Works in History
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I’m not a history expert so this is just to the best of my amateur recall and opinion. (spelling is a learning disablity of mine please excuse what my spell checker misses) I welcome more comment and more accurate historical information. I brought this up after the Sanctuary episode and the actual description of this being Captain Kirk behavior but this applies to way more SG-1 episodes than this. SG-1 here is used for both shows unless specified.
My opinion is romancing the alien female has been a very common part of the history of exploration on Earth and these romances have been sometimes very helpful for the exploriers. I also observe that the explorers romancing the locals is very common (almost the rule) and that very often the local females are very interested in returning the romances.
The Captain Kirk behavior type I believe was not originated by Star Trek I believe that Trek just copied this from earlier fiction which got the idea from historical accounts. (Some of these historical accounts were highly inaccurate and partially fictional but did not make up the benefits of some romances even if the persons were misidentified)
Most successful romance I recall was Cortez for an Mexican area Indian woman. This woman helped greatly with Cortez finding Indian allies and giving advice that helped Cortez to conquer the Aztecs. I believe from my recall of my Advanced Latin American History course that this woman is a national villain in Mexico today but I cannot recall her name or if I spelled Cortez right.
Of course in American history we have Pocahontas who greatly helped with initial good relations. I recall more vaguely many instances of sailers or explorers benefiting from relationships from at least getting provisions from their dalliances with local women.
Of course back then expeditions were all male and so the males were sort of desprite for female companionship regardless of whether it was helpful or not. It was a sexist culture then but that does not make the tactic itself bad. This still applies if not quite as much to our SG-1 exploriers because most of our explorers are single and Atlantis specificity does seam to have way more males than females.
I have read of some scientific theories with some backing that indicate that there is a human instinct to add foreign DNA to the tribe. This shows up in the attraction the foreigner that many have. In particular this would be augmented by the attraction to Alfa types that the brave explorer could defiantly fit the mode by being perceived as brave, powerful and smart and thus good DNA stock. I bring this instinctual attraction up to give some information on why romancing is often so successful.
Although politically incorrect being a Captain Kirk/Carter* on missions I believe is an effective tactic that the SG-1s should continue to use. After all guns are politically incorrect as well. Yes the flirting tactic is a double edged sword and can cut you back if your not careful but this is a risk benefit analysis that I would be on the use side.
I also don’t see this as sexist as the diplomatic/spying seduction is a tool that both sexes can use and it’s not exploitative unless you use it to take advantage otherwise it’s an even trade. Like many things it’s not the use but the motives behind the use that make it morally good or bad.
I think that some of the negative view of being a Captain Kirk is because back at that time most often it was sexist in that Kirk would be the superior leader hero to the weak damsel in distress. Back then a women character would not be a hero and be sexually forward nor could the person in distress be male.
On Alias some complain when Sydney wears a sexy outfit and flirts thinking that the skin is just a ratings ploy and explotive. They are forgeting that sexual seduction is a very common successful spy tactic and to not use seduction frequently would be unrealistic for a spy show. The same should apply to romance as a negotation tactic on SG-1 in my opinion. It’s an effective tactic that should be a part of the SG-1 standard operating procedures. Yes romancing has drawbacks just like carrying guns on a diplomatic mission has drawbacks but to me both guns and romancing have more positives than negatives.
Teyla to me does seam to subscribe to the idea that flirtation is a useful tactic for her to use and she does it inteligently.
*I used Captain for Carter as that worked better than using two ranks plus naval rank Captain is higher rank than Carter’s Air Force ranks :-)
Carter has successfully used this tactic more than once (even if it backfired later she still needed the short range gain to make it to the long term)
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I’m not a history expert so this is just to the best of my amateur recall and opinion. (spelling is a learning disablity of mine please excuse what my spell checker misses) I welcome more comment and more accurate historical information. I brought this up after the Sanctuary episode and the actual description of this being Captain Kirk behavior but this applies to way more SG-1 episodes than this. SG-1 here is used for both shows unless specified.
My opinion is romancing the alien female has been a very common part of the history of exploration on Earth and these romances have been sometimes very helpful for the exploriers. I also observe that the explorers romancing the locals is very common (almost the rule) and that very often the local females are very interested in returning the romances.
The Captain Kirk behavior type I believe was not originated by Star Trek I believe that Trek just copied this from earlier fiction which got the idea from historical accounts. (Some of these historical accounts were highly inaccurate and partially fictional but did not make up the benefits of some romances even if the persons were misidentified)
Most successful romance I recall was Cortez for an Mexican area Indian woman. This woman helped greatly with Cortez finding Indian allies and giving advice that helped Cortez to conquer the Aztecs. I believe from my recall of my Advanced Latin American History course that this woman is a national villain in Mexico today but I cannot recall her name or if I spelled Cortez right.
Of course in American history we have Pocahontas who greatly helped with initial good relations. I recall more vaguely many instances of sailers or explorers benefiting from relationships from at least getting provisions from their dalliances with local women.
Of course back then expeditions were all male and so the males were sort of desprite for female companionship regardless of whether it was helpful or not. It was a sexist culture then but that does not make the tactic itself bad. This still applies if not quite as much to our SG-1 exploriers because most of our explorers are single and Atlantis specificity does seam to have way more males than females.
I have read of some scientific theories with some backing that indicate that there is a human instinct to add foreign DNA to the tribe. This shows up in the attraction the foreigner that many have. In particular this would be augmented by the attraction to Alfa types that the brave explorer could defiantly fit the mode by being perceived as brave, powerful and smart and thus good DNA stock. I bring this instinctual attraction up to give some information on why romancing is often so successful.
Although politically incorrect being a Captain Kirk/Carter* on missions I believe is an effective tactic that the SG-1s should continue to use. After all guns are politically incorrect as well. Yes the flirting tactic is a double edged sword and can cut you back if your not careful but this is a risk benefit analysis that I would be on the use side.
I also don’t see this as sexist as the diplomatic/spying seduction is a tool that both sexes can use and it’s not exploitative unless you use it to take advantage otherwise it’s an even trade. Like many things it’s not the use but the motives behind the use that make it morally good or bad.
I think that some of the negative view of being a Captain Kirk is because back at that time most often it was sexist in that Kirk would be the superior leader hero to the weak damsel in distress. Back then a women character would not be a hero and be sexually forward nor could the person in distress be male.
On Alias some complain when Sydney wears a sexy outfit and flirts thinking that the skin is just a ratings ploy and explotive. They are forgeting that sexual seduction is a very common successful spy tactic and to not use seduction frequently would be unrealistic for a spy show. The same should apply to romance as a negotation tactic on SG-1 in my opinion. It’s an effective tactic that should be a part of the SG-1 standard operating procedures. Yes romancing has drawbacks just like carrying guns on a diplomatic mission has drawbacks but to me both guns and romancing have more positives than negatives.
Teyla to me does seam to subscribe to the idea that flirtation is a useful tactic for her to use and she does it inteligently.
*I used Captain for Carter as that worked better than using two ranks plus naval rank Captain is higher rank than Carter’s Air Force ranks :-)
Carter has successfully used this tactic more than once (even if it backfired later she still needed the short range gain to make it to the long term)
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