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GateWorld
January 14th, 2013, 08:39 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 216</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">As Cora plots to take Rumpelstiltskin’s power for her own, Mary Margaret must decide whether to eliminate one evil in order to save another. In the fairy tale world, a young Cora takes advantage of a deal with the Dark One to leap from poverty to royalty.</DIV>
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hedwig
March 10th, 2013, 08:24 PM
I knew they didn't mean it when the ads said "one of their own will die". Although I guess that depends on who "their" means. Could have been Snow and Charming's circle of family. Or Regina's.

Having now seen Cora's backstory, I find that I still don't have any sympathy for her.

For a few moments there, I thought it was going to be revealed that Regina was Rumple's daughter. Wouldn't that have made a fine kettle of fish? :p

It will be interesting to see how Snow deals with what she's done and how to justify it to herself. Personally, I think that even though she has the purest, most forgiving heart (as David said), she's just finding out there are more sides to herself than she would have ever thought.

I love that Emma has now experienced doing magic herself. Wonder how far she'll let it go.

I also think we can be pretty sure Henry will never go back to Regina after all of this.

majorsal
March 10th, 2013, 08:33 PM
great ep!! ;)

i must admit, i totally cheated and read twitter, so i knew some things that were going to happen, namely who was going to die. :p


~rose did a good job of imitating barbara hershey/cora!

~i didn't feel the 'love' between young cora and rumple.

~i can't place where i know the king that cora wanted to kill. he seems so familiar...

~i'm glad snow did what she did. but i know it's going to hurt her deeply with guilt.

~tricking regina. ah oh...

~i felt sorry for regina! but some of it she deserves.

~good scenes with rumple and belle and rumple and his son.

~cora deserved what she got. she *chose* to be evil.

~now regina wants to kill snow *real* bad! :p

~i wanted a regina-cora showdown... i guess this worked too.


a really good ep, with solid writing and acting. well done! :)

hedwig
March 10th, 2013, 08:43 PM
great ep!! ;)

i must admit, i totally cheated and read twitter, so i knew some things that were going to happen, namely who was going to die. :p


~rose did a good job of imitating barbara hershey/cora!

~i didn't feel the 'love' between young cora and rumple.

~i can't place where i know the king that cora wanted to kill. he seems so familiar...

~i'm glad snow did what she did. but i know it's going to hurt her deeply with guilt.

~tricking regina. ah oh...

~i felt sorry for regina! but some of it she deserves.

~good scenes with rumple and belle and rumple and his son.

~cora deserved what she got. she *chose* to be evil.

~now regina wants to kill snow *real* bad! :p

~i wanted a regina-cora showdown... i guess this worked too.


a really good ep, with solid writing and acting. well done! :)

He was in "Clear & Present Danger" with Harrison Ford many years ago, as the bad buy. And he's recently been a guest on another series or two.

TrueRomantic
March 10th, 2013, 09:15 PM
He was in "Clear & Present Danger" with Harrison Ford many years ago, as the bad buy. And he's recently been a guest on another series or two.
The king was King Xavier, correct? If so, he was played by Joaquim de Almeida. This (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0021835/#Actor) is his IMDB page...(also listed in spoilers if you don't want to open a new page lol, though I didn't put the dates)Three-60 (post-production)

La cage dorée (post-production)
José Ribeiro

Velhos Marinheiros ou o Capitão de Longo Curso (post-production)
Vasco

Robosapien: Rebooted (post-production)
Esperenza

Once Upon a Time (TV series)
King Xavier
– The Miller's Daughter (2013) … King Xavier

Rouge Brésil (TV mini-series)
Joao da Silva / João da Silva
– Episode #1.2 (2013) … Joao da Silva
– Episode #1.1 (2013) … João da Silva

Revenge (TV series)
Salvador Grobet
– Revelations (2012) … Salvador Grobet

Missing (TV series)
Antoine Lussier
– Ice Queen (2012) … Antoine Lussier
– The Hard Drive (2012) … Antoine Lussier
– Pilot (2012) … Antoine Lussier

Archer (TV series)
Román Calzado
– El Contador (2012) … Román Calzado (voice)

The Mentalist (TV series)
Gabriel Porchetto
– My Bloody Valentine (2012) … Gabriel Porchetto

Three Holes, Two Brads, and a Smoking Gun
Joey the Junkman

Rosa Fogo (TV series)
Horácio Gomes
– Episode dated 19 September 2011 (2011) … Horácio Gomes

The Glades (TV series)
Alvaro Saldivar
– Family Matters (2011) … Alvaro Saldivar

Mamitas
Professor Alexander Viera

Fast Five
Hernan Reyes

Parenthood (TV series)
Matthew Biscali
– Put Yourself Out There (2010) … Matthew Biscali
– Solace (2010) … Matthew Biscali

República (TV series)
Henrique
– Às Armas (2010) … Henrique
– Levantai Hoje de Novo (2010) … Henrique

Vuelo IL8714 (TV mini-series)
Hunter
– Episode #1.2 (2010) … Hunter
– Episode #1.1 (2010) … Hunter

A ria, a água, o homem... (short)
Narrator (voice)

Backlight
Jay

Christopher Roth
Christopher Roth

Holy Money
Mangini

Crusoe (TV series)
Santos Santana
– The Hunting Party (2009) … Santos Santana (uncredited)
– Long Pig (2008) … Santos Santana
– Gunpowder (2008) … Santos Santana
– Rum (2008) … Santos Santana (credit only)

The Conspiracy
Escobedo

The Burning Plain
Nick Martinez

Che: Part Two
President René Barrientos

Oscar: The Color of Destiny
Oscar Domínguez

Call Girl
Mouros

La cucina
Michael

The Lovebirds
Marco Correia

The Death and Life of Bobby Z
Don Huertero

The Heart of the Earth
Baxter

CSI: Miami (TV series)
Joseph Trevi
– Man Down (2007) … Joseph Trevi

53 días de invierno
Hugo

Saints Row (Video Game)
Hector (voice)

Love and Debate
Max

Moscow Zero
Yuri

The Celestine Prophecy
Father Sanchez

Posdata

Wanted (TV series)
Captain Manuel Valenza
– Judas (2005) … Captain Manuel Valenza (as Joaquím de Almeida)
– Shoot to Thrill (2005) … Captain Manuel Valenza (as Joaquím de Almeida)
– Lips Are Lips (2005) … Captain Manuel Valenza (as Joaquím de Almeida)
– Ronin (2005) … Captain Manuel Valenza
– Rubbing One Out (2005) … Captain Manuel Valenza
See all 7 episodes »

Have No Fear: The Life of Pope John Paul II (TV movie)
Salvadoran Archbishop Oscar Romero

Um Tiro no Escuro
Rafael

Blue Sombrero
El Presidente

The Batman (TV series)
Bane
– Traction (2004) … Bane (voice)

The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay (Video Game)
Mattsson (voice) (as Joaquim de Alemeida) / Silencio (voice) (as Joaquim de Alemeida) / Zuni (voice) (as Joaquim de Alemeida) / …

The Life: What's Your Pleasure?
Pierre

The West Wing (TV series)
Carlos Carrio
– Slow News Day (2004) … Carlos Carrio

24 (TV series)
Ramon Salazar
– Day 3: 12:00 a.m.-1:00 a.m. (2004) … Ramon Salazar
– Day 3: 11:00 p.m.-12:00 a.m. (2004) … Ramon Salazar
– Day 3: 10:00 p.m.-11:00 p.m. (2004) … Ramon Salazar
– Day 3: 9:00 p.m.-10:00 p.m. (2004) … Ramon Salazar
– Day 3: 8:00 p.m.-9:00 p.m. (2003) … Ramon Salazar
See all 12 episodes »

Runaway
Lolo

Os Imortais
Roberto Alua

Kingpin (TV mini-series)
Colombian Cocaine Kingpin
– Pilot (2003) … Colombian Cocaine Kingpin

Break of Dawn
Radman/Constantin

Sweat
Noh

Demon Island
Narrator (voice) (as Joaquim DeAlmeida)

Quiet Men (short)
Adolfo

Behind Enemy Lines
Admiral Piquet (as Joaquim De Almeida)

The Xango from Baker Street
Sherlock Holmes

Stranded
Fidel Rodrigo

Water and Salt
Marido

La voz de su amo
Oliveira (as Joaquín de Almeida)

April Captains
Gervásio

Falcone (TV series)
Caesar Nicoletti

Short Seduction 4 (video)

/I Inferno
Xana

Camino de Santiago (TV mini-series)
Gonzalo Leyva

One Man's Hero
Cortina

Vendetta (TV movie)
Joseph Macheca

No Vacancy
Reynaldo

On the Run
Ignácio

Dollar for the Dead (TV movie)
Friar Ramon

The Mask of Zorro
General Santa Anna (scenes deleted)

La Cucaracha
Jose Guerra

La Femme Nikita (TV series)
Joaquim Armel
– Psychic Pilgrim (1998) … Joaquim Armel

L'enfant du bout du monde (TV movie)
Miguel Carmina

Tentação
Father António

Elles
Gigi

1997 Fatima (TV movie)
Avelino de Almeida

Corazón loco
Emilio

Estória do Gato e da Lua (short)
The Cat (voice)

We're Still Here (as Joaquim Almeida)

Nostromo (TV mini-series)
Col. Sotillo

Docas (TV series)

Dead Man's Walk (TV mini-series)
Major Laroche
– Episode #1.3 (1996) … Major Laroche

Adão e Eva
Francisco

Desperado
Bucho

According to Pereira
Manuel

M de Amigo (short)

Only You
Giovanni (as Joaquim De Almeida)

Clear and Present Danger
Col. Felix Cortez

Uma Vida Normal
Miguel

El baile de las ánimas

1993 On the Edge of the Horizon
Voice of Spino (voice) (uncredited)

Amok
L'amant

Sombras en una batalla
José (as Joaquim De Almeida)

Amor e Dedinhos de Pé
Francisco Frontaria

Terra Fria
Leonardo

El maestro de esgrima
Luis de Ayala

Retrato de Família
Miguel Montenegro

Aqui D'El Rei! (TV movie)
Manuel

Una estación de paso
Miguel

The Dumbfounded King
Almeida

El día que nací yo
Pelayo Menéndez

Alex
Pedro

Segno di fuoco
Luis Barreto

Sandino
Sandino

A Ilha (short)
Andrea

Les deux Fragonard
Honoré Fragonard

Disamistade
Sebastiano Catte

Milan noir
Tremaine

Terre sacrée
Mateo

Priceless Beauty

Good Morning, Babylon
Andrea Bonnano

Repórter X
Reinaldo Ferreira

The Sun and the Moon

Miami Vice (TV series)
Roberto 'Nico' Arroyo
– Bought and Paid For (1985) … Roberto 'Nico' Arroyo (as Joaquim DeAlmeida)

Beyond the Limit
Leon (as Joaquim De Almeida)

The Soldier
The Soldier's Force (as Joaquim DeAlmeida)

Inquisitor
March 10th, 2013, 11:58 PM
Damn.

While I thoroughly enjoyed the episode (although Snow is kind of getting annoying), they showed that

- Cora wasn't Snow's mother's sister
- Regina wasn't Rumpelstiltskin's daughter.

which I was betting on!

poundpuppy29
March 11th, 2013, 01:37 PM
The witch is dead the evil wicked witch is dead!!!

Loved this ep I thought it was very well done

rkgardner2003
March 11th, 2013, 03:03 PM
I really enjoyed this episode. I even got teary when Rumple was on the phone with Bell, it was nice to see him and his son be a family for a moment. No sympathy at all for Cora, she's always been a "witch". I did feel for Regina when she thought she might finally get a chance to have a real mother. Snow is in for a heap of trouble, hopefully some one can get Regina to see how awful her mom was and what she had planned to do....

Where the hell is August!?

majorsal
March 11th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I did feel for Regina when she thought she might finally get a chance to have a real mother. Snow is in for a heap of trouble, hopefully some one can get Regina to see how awful her mom was and what she had planned to do....


that's the only thing i think can stop regina's revenge. i don't even know if henry can stop her.

the thing is, even if what snow did was mean to regina, regina isn't exactly innocent in the manipulation thing herself, so...

it's not that regina deserved this (her mother is dead!!), it's just that she's not innocent of this type of abuse.

it'll be interesting to see how this turns out. :p

Girlbot
March 11th, 2013, 04:03 PM
Damn.

While I thoroughly enjoyed the episode (although Snow is kind of getting annoying), they showed that

- Cora wasn't Snow's mother's sister
- Regina wasn't Rumpelstiltskin's daughter.

which I was betting on!
I was thinking the same thing. Wow they better get their gene pool straightened out or the next generation will be walking into walls

TrueRomantic
March 11th, 2013, 05:37 PM
Honestly, I was thinking that Snow's mom would be Rump and Cora's child, and Cora's firstborn, so he took the baby, she eventually married the king, Snow was born, Emma was born...

It would have been some serious planning on his part, but we know he can see the future at least some of the time, so I could have seen it happening like that. He and Cora making that deal specifically so that he could eventually create the curse and get Bae back...

But it seems that isn't the case either, so...

hedwig
March 11th, 2013, 06:46 PM
I may be mistaken, but in the scene where the Princess tripped Cora and made her spill flour all over the place, the King said she was Princess Eva (visiting from another kingdom). Princess Eva was Snow's mother. She wasn't very nice at that age, even if she became wonderful, sweet, kind, Queen Eva.

Even though it wasn't very nice of her, it didn't seem to me worthy of Cora's hatred toward Eva, enough to kill her later when she was the Queen.

majorsal
March 11th, 2013, 07:07 PM
I may be mistaken, but in the scene where the Princess tripped Cora and made her spill flour all over the place, the King said she was Princess Eva (visiting from another kingdom). Princess Eva was Snow's mother. She wasn't very nice at that age, even if she became wonderful, sweet, kind, Queen Eva.

Even though it wasn't very nice of her, it didn't seem to me worthy of Cora's hatred toward Eva, enough to kill her later when she was the Queen.

i agree. and just like i didn't see the 'love' between cora and rumple.

but i think it's b/c there wasn't enough time to really set these things up.

i think seeing cora talking to her drunken dad, it was supposed to show cora's dissatisfaction with her life and commonness, and maybe princess eva was just the final straw of indignities for her.

i really enjoyed this ep. :)

Inquisitor
March 11th, 2013, 08:37 PM
I have to add that Rose McGowan was extremely well cast and played the role brilliantly.

TrueRomantic
March 11th, 2013, 09:14 PM
I may be mistaken, but in the scene where the Princess tripped Cora and made her spill flour all over the place, the King said she was Princess Eva (visiting from another kingdom). Princess Eva was Snow's mother. She wasn't very nice at that age, even if she became wonderful, sweet, kind, Queen Eva.

Even though it wasn't very nice of her, it didn't seem to me worthy of Cora's hatred toward Eva, enough to kill her later when she was the Queen.

I think you're right. It was mostly just what I was thinking based on promos lol.

I think it's one of those things where we all have choices...Snow's mom chose to be good, Cora chose to be bad.


And I also have to agree that Rose was a wonderful Cora. I knew it was Rose, and the voice told me it was Rose, but the whole time I kept thinking how they must have just used technology to deage the Cora we know lol. That's how good a job Rose did, and the casting did, in my opinion.

poundpuppy29
March 12th, 2013, 12:07 PM
I have to add that Rose McGowan was extremely well cast and played the role brilliantly.
I agree 100%

the fifth man
March 14th, 2013, 07:59 PM
Nice episode. I have to admit, Snow doing that really surprised me. There is going to be massive fallout from that decision, for sure.

the fifth man
March 14th, 2013, 07:59 PM
I have to add that Rose McGowan was extremely well cast and played the role brilliantly.

She did indeed do a fine job playing young Cora.

mr_kennedy
July 6th, 2013, 09:18 PM
anyone but me hoping that

that cora became the dark one instead i kinda was if it meant that Mr Gold could survive

Baron Of Hell
January 11th, 2015, 12:52 AM
Didn't think Snow would go through with the murder. She did try to stop it at the end though. I kind of wanted to see what Cora would be like with a heart. I mean in present time. Whoever they got to play young Cora did a good job. That Ghost moment with her and Rush spinning gold instead of a clay was interesting. Had the Ghost theme song playing in my head while watching that.

I guess Regina will try to kill Snow again. I hope they end this dance next episode. I'm kind of bored with it.