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GateWorld
January 14th, 2013, 08:37 PM
<DIV ALIGN="center"><TABLE WIDTH="450" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="7"><TR><TD STYLE="border: none;"><DIV ALIGN="left"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Arial, san-serif" SIZE="2" COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.scifistream.com/once-upon-a-time/s2/manhattan/"><IMG SRC="http://www.scifistream.com/wp-content/uploads/manhattan-160x120.jpg" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="120" ALIGN="right" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="2" BORDER="0" STYLE="border: 1px black solid;" ALT="Visit the Episode Guide"></A><FONT SIZE="1" COLOR="#888888">ONCE UPON A TIME - SEASON TWO</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 214</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">Mr. Gold, Emma, and Henry arrive in New York in search of his long-lost son, putting Emma face-to-face with someone from her past. Regina and Hook search for a secret weapon, and in the fairy tale world Rumpelstiltskin is conscripted to fight in the Ogre War.</DIV>
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RoK
February 17th, 2013, 06:59 PM
Sweet, first person to post. First off, I do have to say, I had a feeling that Neal was Baelfire, judging by Emma's reaction. Though I do feel bad for Henry now, as he has a complicated family, with Baelfire as his father and Rumplestiltskin as his grandfather. All and all, for me, a good episode. Can't wait for the next one.

majorsal
February 17th, 2013, 08:14 PM
this was a good ep! but man, what a complicated mess!! :p


someone help me run down the family tree now...

henry's two granddad's are prince charming and rumple. besides regina being henry's adopted mom, she's also what again?

very interesting how the ppl that are screaming betrayal and abandonment are also the ppl that are doing it to someone else. real life crap. :S :p

RoK
February 17th, 2013, 11:49 PM
someone help me run down the family tree now...

henry's two granddad's are prince charming and rumple. besides regina being henry's adopted mom, she's also what again?

I think they said that she was his step-great-grandma, seeing that Regina was technically Snow's stepmother. If that's the case then Cora would be Henry's step-great-great-grandma as well.

rkgardner2003
February 18th, 2013, 02:44 AM
I loved this episode! I wonder what happens now when they all get back to Storybrooke...will Bae go with them? I'm assuming with all the talk about not abandoning Henry he probably will. I figured Regina was going to go back to the dark side, but I was hoping she'd stay good and help them out against Cora...And, where the hell did August go?! If I remember right, Emma went up to his room and he had disappeared....

b_barnett
February 18th, 2013, 12:49 PM
Here's my review of last night's Manhattan

http://letstalktv.barbarabarnett.com/2013/02/in-depth-weeks-time-manhattan/

hedwig
February 18th, 2013, 01:37 PM
this was a good ep! but man, what a complicated mess!! :p


someone help me run down the family tree now...

henry's two granddad's are prince charming and rumple. besides regina being henry's adopted mom, she's also what again?

very interesting how the ppl that are screaming betrayal and abandonment are also the ppl that are doing it to someone else. real life crap. :S :p

Henry is the biological son of Emma and Baelfire.
Henry is the biological grandson of Gold/Rumplestiltskin and Milah.
Henry is the biological grandson of Snow and Charming, and is the great-grandson of King Leopold (Snow's father), and of Rose (Charming's mother).


Henry is the adopted son of Regina Mills, as well as being her step(?)-great-grandson.
Henry is the step(?)-great-great-grandson of Cora and Henry the Elder.

To add to the confusion, Emma is the step-granddaughter of Regina, and so on.:p

majorsal
February 18th, 2013, 03:48 PM
I loved this episode! I wonder what happens now when they all get back to Storybrooke...will Bae go with them? I'm assuming with all the talk about not abandoning Henry he probably will. I figured Regina was going to go back to the dark side, but I was hoping she'd stay good and help them out against Cora...And, where the hell did August go?! If I remember right, Emma went up to his room and he had disappeared....

regina has to FINALLY figure out that the real cause of all her pain is her mother. or she's really stupid. :p

though i was really surprised when henry told emma that she was just like regina (in keeping secrets from him). i felt that was kind of a set up for a henry/regina reunion. or at least a better understanding on henry's part.

poundpuppy29
February 19th, 2013, 01:16 PM
Loved this ep and I can't wait for more it is a mess

garhkal
February 19th, 2013, 02:20 PM
I loved Charming's comment that "Its a good thing we don't have Thankgiving in our lands, otherwise family dinner's would be hectic."

Made even more problematic now that Emma know's Henry's dad is rump's son.

Mrja84
February 20th, 2013, 04:08 AM
Does anyone agree with Snow that this revelation may cool everyone off now?

hedwig
February 20th, 2013, 09:15 AM
Does anyone agree with Snow that this revelation may cool everyone off now?

Not at all. I think it will just stir things up even more than they have been.

Mrja84
February 20th, 2013, 10:25 AM
Not at all. I think it will just stir things up even more than they have been.

I agree as well. But Snow is an optimist I guess.

VampyreWraith
February 20th, 2013, 10:54 AM
I really liked this episode. Poor Henry, with his complicated family lol. I liked the seer, I thought she looked kinda cool/creepy, with the eyes on her hands.

garhkal
February 20th, 2013, 01:48 PM
I am just wondering where they are going with the side story of that guy who ran hook over, talking about what's going on there with his wife/sister... Is the truth of what storybrook is going to go global?

tomstone
February 20th, 2013, 05:48 PM
Does anyone agree with Snow that this revelation may cool everyone off now?

I kind of do. It sure is no easy fix, but if they like it or not they are all Family now. Also pretty much all of them Care for Henry. So I guess he will be the glue that brings them together. I have played that role in real life myself a few times and I know that one Person can make a difference in a Groups dynamic. Especially if that Person is a lovable little Kid who hasnt done anything wrong.

The Plot thikens and I cant wait till Emma and Gold get back to defend Storybrooke. That guy who drove the Car is starting to become a serious Problem. By now it might even be to late, but with magic this might still be fixable. Question being with Magic being present just in Storybrooke, can you manipulate stuff outside of it? Meaning if you stand at the source of the Power and send it out to the Magicless Outsideworld to do something, will it still work? Golds Scarf seems to be holding up fine.

rkgardner2003
February 21st, 2013, 02:38 AM
Didn't the prophecy make it sound like Henry will be Gold's downfall? I'm not sure if he's changed enough to ignore that, we'll see if he really has changed and family will mean more to him than power...

Mrja84
February 21st, 2013, 04:46 AM
Didn't the prophecy make it sound like Henry will be Gold's downfall? I'm not sure if he's changed enough to ignore that, we'll see if he really has changed and family will mean more to him than power...

It said he will be Rumpel's "undoing". So Rumpel may think Henry will cause him to die or lose favor with his son. But I'm thinking Henry will be the reason or set in motion the reason for Rumpel to lose his powers. And not be be corrupted by them.

Heck it may turn out that Henry becomes a reason for Rumpel to give up magic.

We'll see.

Mrja84
February 21st, 2013, 11:45 AM
I just had a thought, what if Henry's "undoing" of Rumpel means Henry is going to kill Rumpel and become a new Dark One?

majorsal
February 21st, 2013, 02:40 PM
It said he will be Rumpel's "undoing". So Rumpel may think Henry will cause him to die or lose favor with his son. But I'm thinking Henry will be the reason or set in motion the reason for Rumpel to lose his powers. And not be be corrupted by them.

Heck it may turn out that Henry becomes a reason for Rumpel to give up magic.

We'll see.

the way rumple was looking at henry (and the henry/father scene) gives me the :S. i'm afraid rumple will want to kill henry, even if he's his grandson.

tomstone
February 21st, 2013, 06:00 PM
the way rumple was looking at henry (and the henry/father scene) gives me the :S. i'm afraid rumple will want to kill henry, even if he's his grandson.

I hope he will understand soon enough that this Ability of his can be wrong. As the seer told him he has to seperate from what can be from what will be. Peoples actions around him tell him where the wind is blowing and therefor can anticipate a future similar to what Peter did in Fringe. That doesnt mean that the Future cannot be stirred into another Direction though.

garhkal
February 24th, 2013, 12:29 PM
Very true. As master Yoda always said..

Always in motion the future is.

the fifth man
February 27th, 2013, 08:21 AM
Very true. As master Yoda always said..

Always in motion the future is.

Somehow, I just don't see Rumple/Gold being as enlightened as the great Jedi Yoda was.;)

garhkal
March 3rd, 2013, 12:56 PM
Nope.. BUT they both walk with a cane.

Baron Of Hell
January 10th, 2015, 10:29 PM
I was sure Bae was going to be Peter Pan, can't call them all.

I think Rush will try to kill or get rid of Henry. He will fail and his Son will hate him forever which will be Rush's ultimate downfall. I think this will happen after father and son reconcile so the downfall will be that much greater.

Not here nor there but I guess the mirror guy is gone forever. And we'll probably not see Mulan and the other lady again. And probably no Peter Pan stuff since hook is in town. Would to see tinkerbell and the lost boys. Which reminds me where is Hook's crew?

jelgate
January 11th, 2015, 06:56 AM
Many of these will be answered if you continue