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GateWorld
November 5th, 2012, 12:59 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 212</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">The town’s people debate what to do when an injured stranger arrives in town, with the potential to expose them to the outside world. Dr. Whale has problems of his own, while in the fairy tale world Victor Frankenstein finds himself in need of new funding for his experiments.</DIV>
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hedwig
January 21st, 2013, 11:51 AM
Interesting how Henry is the only one to realize that the Frankenstein story has nothing to do with the Fairy Tale Land that most everyone else came from. Interesting also that all the adults shut him up when he was trying to point it out.

the fifth man
January 21st, 2013, 08:12 PM
Very enjoyable episode. I liked seeing more of the Frankenstein story. Regina and Cora together? Boy is that bad news.

Mrja84
January 21st, 2013, 08:20 PM
This sprung to mind as soon as I saw Rumpel talking to Victor. Someone else wrote it but it's the thought that counts:


In "The Doctor," Rumpel and Victor have that scene at the end with Jefferson which implies that they met through him. Rumpel acts like he's never been to Frankenstein's realm. "This must be quite the land you come from if you think your methods are more powerful." Ah, but, in this episode he has been there and even encouraged Victor's work. What??? How did Rumpel even get to that world without Jefferson. Doesn't add up.

Also I think Emma should stop saying she has a super power by telling when people lie to her. That driver clearly lied and yet...Emma believes him.

Seriously, they need to be more consistent with what the rules are. They can't just decide what rules to follow and when.

majorsal
January 22nd, 2013, 01:37 PM
Also I think Emma should stop saying she has a super power by telling when people lie to her. That driver clearly lied and yet...Emma believes him.

Seriously, they need to be more consistent with what the rules are. They can't just decide what rules to follow and when.

i was distracted by family at the beginning of the ep, so just what did the driver see?

Mrja84
January 22nd, 2013, 03:21 PM
i was distracted by family at the beginning of the ep, so just what did the driver see?

Well, Rumpel was about to throw a fireball or something. Then there was the guy with the hook for a hand. Really nothing too outrageous. But I think the way Emma was acting just gave him more reason to suspect something. Besides, we really don't know what he is telling his wife. Maybe he thinks Emma looks like the female doctor from House...

Ian-S
January 22nd, 2013, 05:31 PM
He also saw Gold heal Bell.

Sounds like the writers are getting slack if they're letting those inconsistencies get through, or maybe Emma did think he was lying but as she got Regina wrong is now second guessing herself, and they'll reveal that later.

@Mrja84, I don't think anything Rumple says can be believed as being truthful or accurate, he didn't technically say he'd never been there, just questioned Victor's belief...

Rumple reminds me of our Prime Minister, everything he says is a riddle.

Mrja84
January 22nd, 2013, 06:44 PM
He also saw Gold heal Bell.

I think he was unconscious or too faraway to see that. Didn't Rumpel heal her after the accident?

Livestick
January 23rd, 2013, 03:25 AM
I think he was unconscious or too faraway to see that. Didn't Rumpel heal her after the accident?

It was after the accident, but Rumpel was very worried that he'd seen it. That's why he wanted to let him die.

poundpuppy29
January 23rd, 2013, 05:48 AM
I just wanted to say that was a weird kiss between Rumple & Cora and am I the only one who likes the interactions between Hook & Emma he clearly has a thing for her I think. I started a ship thread for Emma & Hook and no one replied :(

VampyreWraith
January 23rd, 2013, 06:39 AM
I really liked this episode. I enjoyed seeing more of the Frankenstein story. Loved Whale/Frankenstein in this episode; I really liked the little conversation between Whale and Ruby. Loved Rumple, I felt kind of bad for him when he visited Belle and she threw the cup.

hedwig
January 23rd, 2013, 09:33 AM
I think he was unconscious or too faraway to see that. Didn't Rumpel heal her after the accident?


It was after the accident, but Rumpel was very worried that he'd seen it. That's why he wanted to let him die.

It was after the accident, just as Emma, Snow and David showed up. The accident had already happened and the man was most likely unconscious at that point, so he couldn't have seen Rumple heal Belle.

You can rewatch the episode on ABC, if you want to.

Livestick
January 24th, 2013, 01:15 PM
It was after the accident, just as Emma, Snow and David showed up. The accident had already happened and the man was most likely unconscious at that point, so he couldn't have seen Rumple heal Belle.

You can rewatch the episode on ABC, if you want to.

Rumpel seems to disagree. That was one of the first things he said when they asked him to save him. "You'd better hope he dies because he saw me heal Belle."

jelgate
January 24th, 2013, 01:40 PM
Rumple said the guy saw him use magic. Most likely the fireball Rumple was about to throw at Hook

hedwig
January 24th, 2013, 02:58 PM
Rumpel seems to disagree. That was one of the first things he said when they asked him to save him. "You'd better hope he dies because he saw me heal Belle."

Then the writers and producers changed it, since the episode shows the crash happened before Rumple healed Belle.

Livestick
January 24th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Then the writers and producers changed it, since the episode shows the crash happened before Rumple healed Belle.

Actually, I just rewatched and jel is right. He said the guy saw him using magic, not healing Belle. So I guess maybe he did mean the fireball. Oops.. :o

hedwig
January 24th, 2013, 03:43 PM
Actually, I just rewatched and jel is right. He said the guy saw him using magic, not healing Belle. So I guess maybe he did mean the fireball. Oops.. :o

It's only possible the driver saw the fireball, because as soon as the headlights appeared, Rumple doused the fireball and if the driver saw anything, it could be blamed on hallucinations due to the accident.

The events played out like this:
Hooks shoots Belle.
She falls across the line and loses her memory.
Hook gloats.
Rumple is about to throw a fireball at him, until headlights appear and he immediately douses the fireball.
Rumple dives to the side to avoid being hit by the car.
The car hits Hook, then crashes.
As the car crashes and spins around, the airbag deploys in the driver's face (we see this after Emma & Co. show up).
Rumple then heals Belle.
I don't think there's any way the driver could have seen any of this if he was unconscious, which he certainly was when Emma dragged the EMT over to his car.

If the producers want to play it out the way they did with Rumple being upset about the possibility of the driver seeing stuff (and he claims he did at the end of the episode), fine.

But I still say it didn't happen that way and nothing is going to change my mind. I've rewatched the episode several times (as well as the previous episode), and it plays out just as I've described.

Mrja84
January 25th, 2013, 09:14 AM
Thank you hedwig, back to cage you go ;) (That name's from Harry Potter, right?)

Either way, Rumpel is the kind of guy that will kill you just to be safe regardless if you saw anything at all.

garhkal
January 27th, 2013, 01:45 PM
This sprung to mind as soon as I saw Rumpel talking to Victor. Someone else wrote it but it's the thought that counts:



Also I think Emma should stop saying she has a super power by telling when people lie to her. That driver clearly lied and yet...Emma believes him.

Seriously, they need to be more consistent with what the rules are. They can't just decide what rules to follow and when.

Perhaps she only THINKs she is infallible in detecting lies.. And I actually believed him too.. till i saw him crunch up and use the phone.

Mrja84
October 7th, 2013, 09:47 AM
Perhaps she only THINKs she is infallible in detecting lies.. And I actually believed him too.. till i saw him crunch up and use the phone.

But didn't Emma seem odd in that see? Like she was clearly hiding something and trying to find out if he knew it.

garhkal
October 9th, 2013, 12:18 PM
What could she have been hiding though?

Mrja84
October 9th, 2013, 02:56 PM
What could she have been hiding though?

That the town has magic and that she's clearly afraid he saw something

Baron Of Hell
January 10th, 2015, 09:15 AM
Kind of sad seeing Rush fail at bringing Belle's memories back. I guess he doesn't truly love her. I wonder if Emma kissed Belle would that give Belle back her memories. Emma kissed someone in season 1 and he got some of his memories back.

On a different note I kind of like that the title opening is different in each episode. I also like the clothes the not so evil queen wears in FTL.

garhkal
January 10th, 2015, 10:04 PM
It is nice, that the 'opening crawl' has something to do with the ep in it..