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MasySyma
November 3rd, 2012, 12:23 PM
I wasn't a fan of Juliet in Season 1, but my disdain for their romance is getting worse.

Aside from the Juliet-Renard arc, It doesn't feel like Nick is trying to win her back. He isn't showing her how well he knows her or that he loves her.

Thoughts?

mi_guard
November 3rd, 2012, 12:38 PM
I think he's getting tired, not only of her, but of everything. There needs to be something joyful happening to our Grimm, otherwise he'll become a grim Grimm :S

Hyndara71
November 3rd, 2012, 01:03 PM
I think the most of the "trying to win her back"-stuff is going on off-screen because ... well, Grimm IS still a crime-show and the drama-stuff has to be shoveled into the background for the case of the week. And we actually saw Nick talking with Juliette about her likes and dislikes. True, the last time something like that happened was in 2.08 when they danced but I'm sure he was working hard to win her back.
But I'm also with mi_guard, I know after MONTHS of trying and fighting I would finally give up (in fact, I did some time ago) because that's getting old and more and more annoying for the trying part, especially when there's no response.

Well, I liked Juliette in season 1 but I still think TPTB underused her ways too much. She IS clever, or maybe I see her this way because I know what it means to become a vet (one of my cousins *funny* in US is a vet, also one of my nieces over here). Maybe she is still too perfect, that's true, but I think if she would have a real chance to she would grow very well as a character.

MasySyma
November 3rd, 2012, 02:53 PM
The writers need to give us an exact time marker. If days, the plot makes sense. If months, Nick needs to move out.

I'm seeing Nick make occasional large gestures (the dinner), but relationships are about the small things. He doesn't seem to make her coffee just right or tell the story of their shared possessions.

Hyndara71
November 3rd, 2012, 03:02 PM
The writers need to give us an exact time marker. If days, the plot makes sense. If months, Nick needs to move out.

There was in this episode. Juliette said it was two months ago when she was at the hospital.


I'm seeing Nick make occasional large gestures (the dinner), but relationships are about the small things. He doesn't seem to make her coffee just right or tell the story of their shared possessions.

He did during the first time after Juliette woke up (2.03) and also when she came home (2.04, 2.05). But after two months ... well, I knew I had stopped talking about "good old times". About making her coffee ... we simply don't know if or if not. Nick seems usually to come home later than Juliette (3 am this time) and moving out later (his alarm was set on 8 am in 2.08). Sure, he could make her breakfast but Juliette doesn't seem to eat breakfast. We only saw her moving out with this thermosjug several times. And we don't know their coffeemaker. Sorry, not a coffee-girl but as far as I know there are several coffeemakers with timer out there. So, maybe they have one of those *shrugs*. Or maybe Nick isn't good in making coffee *snickers*, who knows?

MasySyma
November 9th, 2012, 08:51 PM
Nick missed the perfect chance to tell Juliet everything in 211. They also lack any chemistry this season. I hope Nick gets a new girlfriend out of all this.

Klenotka
November 10th, 2012, 04:01 AM
I agree with you that Nick is getting tired of all this. I can´t imagine myself in his shoes. Over a two years ago, he had a girlfriend, a job, a normal life with perhaps planning a family...and then boom, everything goes to hell and getting worse. Him being more secretive and "dark" isn´t helping. I think part of the problem is that Juliette can start "fresh" with him now. When she fell for him for the first time, he was this young police officer, without any hint of...um, evil? insinde him. This time, when he is basically a stranger to her, she probably feels the Grimm inside him. She knows that Nick behaves strangely and I believe they have some major communication issues (they probably had them before but they were in love so it didn´t matter that much).
There were some theories about Nick being a loner, whose hobby is his job and this whole situation proves it. I think he has big trust issues (even now, he doesn´t tell Hank and Monroe everything), and with more people involved in his life, he is ironically becoming more secretive and closed. it may be an interesting turn for his character in the future (going "Angelus" from Angel for two or three episodes ;)) but it is not definitely good for a normal relationship. He either needs to tell Juliette the whole truth or let her go. Hold on her skirt just for the sake of a seeming normalcy is not good, especially when their life will never be normal again.

I think Juliette needs to go. I never really believed them as a couple and she was very underused. It got better with the end of Season 1 but now when Hank knows and this creepy Renard obsession story-line, they didn´t help her. And with Rosalee and Adelind in one episode with her, she will have no chance to stand on her own.

anaesthetic
November 11th, 2012, 03:13 PM
I disagree. I love their little moments when she's starting to fall for him. I really disliked how little they did to explain their relationship in season 1. I love to see it growing again now, despite the circumstances. However, the character could definitely use some improvement.

mi_guard
November 12th, 2012, 02:37 AM
maybe they should ask Hank to explain the wesen to Juliette - he seems to find the better wording (I admired how he was able to explain the unexplainable during the last episode).

Hyndara71
November 12th, 2012, 03:16 AM
maybe they should ask Hank to explain the wesen to Juliette - he seems to find the better wording (I admired how he was able to explain the unexplainable during the last episode).

I'm not sure but maybe Monroe will fill in. I'm thinking about that sneak pic where Juliette sits with him, drinking tea or coffee. She looks ... revealed and calm, just the opposite of what we've seen during the last episodes. Maybe he will decide to tell her before she's going completely nuts.

blueray
November 14th, 2012, 09:15 AM
at the beginning of the season, I remember thinking its going to hard for them, because without Juliett remembering their relationship, all she would know of nick is the way he is now. she will never know him being anything other than a grimm.

now it seems like it would be best for both characters to break up. that way Nick could go "darker" as a grimm and once this Renard story is ended, she can be her own character instead of just Nick's girlfriend.

Klenotka
November 14th, 2012, 10:11 AM
I am beginning to think that´s exactly where they want to go with her. I believe it would be the best for her character right now.

I wrote that above that Juliette doesn´t remember the normal, kind, by-the-numbers Nick. She met Grimm Nick, and she would have to be stupid not to sense some...I don´t know, darkness (?) inside him. It may be difficult to be attracted to a person who lies to me. He is a complete stranger to her after all.
Simply put, he isn´t the Nick she fell for anymore so it is probably a little tough to remember when he is such a different person now.

I have to admit, if they are really going that way, then it is original and unusual. Main heroes of fantasy shows usually don´t have girlfriends or wives (husbands or boyfriends if the rare occassion when a woman is a lead happens), but to have a perfectly working relationship that is basically destroyed by something neither of them can predict, and is cause by hero´s (Nick´s) secret life, that is a nice twist. There is a big potential in it. Juliette could stick around, help occassionally, with the slight chance that they could be together again one day.
But I have to admit, it is pretty heartbreaking to watch Nick losing a woman he loves. Nothing changed for him, he still loves her but she doesn´t know him. You can say that the loss of Juliette has exactly the predictable effect on him - he is cranky, angry and sometimes violent. It will be interesting to watch his reactions from now on (if they won´t decide to fix her memory. Let´s hope they won´t do it)

MasySyma
November 15th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Good points.

I'm hoping Juliet ends up angry at both men. Perhaps she can become a villain and join Adalind.

ginoturk
March 6th, 2013, 12:00 PM
Nick is never a dark Grimm all along,that is why he could manage to connect wesens,he is a police officer first,he has his limits to go to only a point,he is angry to captain because he feels betrayed and juilette doesn't know anything but captain does,and as Jim kouf said captain somehow taking advantage of juilette,all spoilers teasing of this particular scene between renard/juilette,one thing I m sure about scene that they will make out but still not sure if this make out session is gonna end up having sex because it seems like it ends with a gun shot,probably juilette was shooting the gun as we saw at the promo while her blouse was on her.if they end up having sex,this will be the end of the juilette/nick permanently in my opinion.I can't see him accepting back.for juilette also end of the road,once obsession ends which will be soon,she won't be with renard.I m still hoping juilette's love for nick is stronger than this spell and while she recovers her memory nick must be very open to her about Grimm world,than she can decide to be with him by helping him or leave.juilette is important for thing that she is Nick's sanctuary and he loves her.

Hyndara71
March 6th, 2013, 01:39 PM
Mh ... I doubt that they will ever be a couple again, as much as I loved them together, Juliette with Sean in one bed is end of line. Nothing beyond that, or I have the wrong character for Nick in mind. For me (as someone WHO had such a triangle in RL as the fifth wheel) it WAS the end to find my BF together with another one (his ex) in our bed. Maybe the male part of humankind sees this a little different, don't know.
About Sean/Juliette ... I wouldn't say there is no chance for them both. As Monroe already told Renard: there was an attraction from the beginning and maybe that was the reason why Juliette didn't came along at the precinct in season 1. We only saw them both together in one scene in season 1 and I have to say with the knowledge of season 2 this scene is a little bit different from my first point of view. Maybe Juliette avoided going to the precinct because she felt something for Renard. Could be, who knows? And maybe, after all is said and done, spell is broken and Juliette's memory restored, she will give this relationship a real try - or go along with Hank *shrugs*.
About being open about Wesen and Grimm I'm completely with you - but I also can understand Nick that he doesn't want to tell Juliette again. Not after the desaster from the first time :lol:

ginoturk
March 7th, 2013, 02:20 AM
@hyndara in that scene juilette in the bed is not from juilette's house,i think it is renard's house maybe i am wrong,renard says in his tweet interview last night that he is going to have 2 love scene,he didnt say the second with whom,first make out session probably is at the begining of the show and it is placed in juilette's house and when the gun blast i dont think they will end in bed,if that bed scene is in renard's house i cant find a reason why juilette goes there after this first makeout wreck .i am %100 percent with you if they sleep together,it is end of the road for them permanantly and man is his boss for godsake.i cant see any way nick (hero) can find a way working with renard also(if he sleeps with juilette).we are talking about a hero here,let a regular man cant work with a boss who is sleeping with your fiancee.
and to your question bitsie and renard also said in screenspy live tweet interview that there was no any kind of interest eachother before the spell.bitsie said this is all man made.they also said none of them want this relationship.
well it i only one day we will find out how they will play.

Hyndara71
March 7th, 2013, 05:24 AM
@Ginoturk
First, Hyn is enough :). Gino enough for you?
About the bed - point taken! I always saw that as the bed at Juliette's, so ... rewatching that trailer again and you could be right. The window is on another side than in Juliette's sleeping-room and I never saw that metallic chair anywhere in her house - wouldn't fit into the rest of the furniture ...
Seriously, I don't see the major problem in working together - as Nick and Renard barely worked together. They could avoid to meet each other during a time. Renard as the leading officer of the precinct surely also does the work-schedules. If I were him I would try to put the team Burkhardt/Griffin to another shift for a while, when I'm not at work myself. Or Nick (or Renard) could try to get moved into another precinct IF there's no way of coming down to one reason. And this reason could be fighting baddies, so ... *shrugs*. Maybe I'm too adult and too experienced, don't know. I would try to get some time off to calm down and, just what I said before, also try to move my shifts for a while. At least, such wounds are healing. It takes incredible long but they are healing. And at one point they should try to work together again, as boss and detective. My opinion, but I also can see Nick leaving the police completely when he's pushed too far into Grimm-mood.
About the spell/attraction ... I think it depends from when this interview was. I'm pretty sure with the knowledge now both, Bitsie and Sasha would find some different answers. But I also could be wrong, don't know.

ginoturk
March 7th, 2013, 07:09 AM
@hyn you can say Gino :) tweet interview was last night with Sasha and bitsie.I saw another video interview with bitsie today,it was showing some scene after wu arriving to juilette's house.juilette was sitting on the couch with her red blouse and covering herself with a blanketish thing,she was stearing with blank face no talking,wu was on the phone with nick.

Hyndara71
March 7th, 2013, 07:58 AM
@ Gino:
So I assume you are in US? Envy you ...
There was a Twitter-interview last night? I know there'll one today because NBC advertised it yesterday but I didn't know that and I also didn't saw anything about it. But could explain why Bitsie wasn't on Twitter last night, usually she tweets every night.
That glimpse you saw with the Bitsie interview sounds very interesting. Especially after I just noticed something in the last Sneak Peek :).

ginoturk
March 10th, 2013, 03:59 AM
@hyn I was right about gun shot,it seems they addressed the reason of triangle to nick.curing spell which they didn't give anything about second phase was?first nick took potion but after that what?the scene on early promo which juilette is in the bed,I didn't see it in 2.13,and now after all happened in 2.13 nick and renard is sort of allies,I don't think renard will jeopardise this alliance by trying to sleep juilette again(that scene may cut off).in 2.14 as bitsie mentioned that her memories starts to come back to her slowly and she said there is one episode which she cries all the time.probably that episode is 2.14.the other day i 've read an answer which nick answered about"will nick have to be around juilette and renard because of residual feelings?nick said he can't answer that.I was happy that they ended this triangle but it seems they will drag it.let juilette remember everything and tell her everything and give her a choice staying or leaving nick.memory loss also will be drag,she lost her memory instantly but coming back very slowly how convenient.

Hyndara71
March 10th, 2013, 04:57 AM
Seems we have the same sources, Gino, I read nearly the same - except the "crying the whole episode".
About the shooting I was wrong. I didn't think Juliette would shot Renard and I seriously never had in mind she would shot at Nick (well, maybe for the first time I saw that early trailer, but there it was very easy to mistake). But I didn't had that owl-guy in mind. I thought there probably would be someone changing faces with Renard, come to Juliettes to hurt her or something. I only was wondering where she could have a gun from because Nick now has the one he gave her in season 1. You know that Sneak Peek with Renard at the trailer and someone is driving away with a car (which I had mistaken as Renard's car).
That scene with Juliette in the bed ... could that be that scene from 2.06 Sasha dragged NBC into posting it via YT because it was cut? Not sure because I thought that chick were on the other side of the bed but ... you can also change sides on film, that's not the problem.
Any US-Grimmster around who could check that?

Klenotka
March 10th, 2013, 09:30 AM
I think it will take a while for her to go back to Nick, if she returns to him at all. She has the same right to feel betrayed as Nick - for different reasons. Actually, I would walk away if I was her. Everybody lied to her, including Monroe. They obviously still didn´t tell her the truth. I think with the memory back, her feelings may return but also the doubt, the anger, multiplied by all the anger...no, if the writers are smart (and it almost looks like they read some reactions of fans), they won´t let them to get back together anytime soon. I think it is possible that she will just be there for him as a friend in need but not a girlfriend. Juliette needs to find her own way, and not to be only someone´s love interest.

ginoturk
March 10th, 2013, 04:42 PM
@hyn one of her interview she said an episode is coming that very emotional for her that she is crying entire of the show.probably it is 2.14.about juilette in bed no it is not that cut scene from 2.06 I watched that promo again,most scenes from 2.13 one scene with that insect type wesen,it is from 2.15 the sandman.other scene is juilette in the bed probably from 2.14.the way they ended 2.13 first phase was completed for cure(nick drank potion),that scene may be a part of cure for second phase since they didn't give any clue about second phase of the cure.another theory I can think of that if her memories are coming probably that scene with renard in bed is actually it is with nick(they did it before when she was kissing nick,nick became renard)also in that deleted scene they did same(girl became juilette)probably they will do the same thing in this scene.this is the only logical explanation I could find.

ginoturk
March 10th, 2013, 05:10 PM
@klenotka I agree with you about they will not reunite very soon,because her memories are coming back very slowly probably they will drag nickamnesia till end of season.at this point she still doesn't remember nick(probably she will remember something that she will continue to fix it.)that is why nick or juilette won't want to be together until she remembers completely.even in that point she may or not to be with nick.it is going to be her choice at that point.

Hyndara71
March 11th, 2013, 10:08 AM
@Gino:
No offense but ... I really have problems with some of your entries. Please put some space between the words and sentences *a really desperate Hyn* And don't take this wrong, please *puppy eyes*
Okay, from what I get:
Did Bitsie say that? I remember her saying that she's "going through hell" and has "emotional troubles" but I cannot remember her telling she would cry an entire episode. Mh, maybe I missed that
About that cutted scene, okay, I wasn't sure, that's what I wanted to know. I have to admit I watched that thing one time and that it was for me. I like Sasha as an actor but I'm not a big fan of Renard and definetely not of his "shirtlessrage" every couple of episodes. *don't know why I'm starting to think about Sig Weaver on Galaxy Quest right now*. But it could be that the way of breaking the spell is the opposite to what they went through so far.
Well, we don't know what that second phase is, here you are right. But remember that trailer from January? To me that scene at the SpiceShop when Monroe is reading whatever Rosalee sees as cure was in it - in an extended version (again cutted! Why all interesting scenes are cutted?) "Oh boy! This is gonna be uncomfortable!" Sounds not so promising for Nick's near future :D (as whumper I'm fine with that :D).

ginoturk
March 12th, 2013, 11:16 AM
@hyn English is not my original language,sometimes I forget using marks.about juilette in bed scene,I noticed something which TVGuide published new video today from TCA tour 2013.Monroe,David are saying renard is shaqing juilette.also juilette says that bedroom scene takes place in two different room.we watched the scene it is ended where it started.I think they shooted the sex scene but they cut it off.we will be sure this week about it.I am happy they didn't go there with juilette.

MasySyma
March 30th, 2013, 04:16 PM
When Juliette threatened to leave town, I was practically shouting "let's help her pack." Her character remains useless and so passive.

mi_guard
March 30th, 2013, 04:39 PM
When Juliette threatened to leave town, I was practically shouting "let's help her pack." Her character remains useless and so passive.

well that was my reaction too - if her character and storyline do not improve quickly, they shall make it quick and let her go wherever she wants; it would be better for Nick anyway

Hyndara71
March 30th, 2013, 04:46 PM
Don't see it this way, sorry. There's still a chance when they are act careful now with Juliette. She could be very useful for TeamGrimm (more useful than Hank anyway) and it would hurt Nick the more when she would leave now. Besides that her character is getting more interesting since she's beginning to remember. So I hope we will be back to normal (Nick and Juliette as a couple again) at the end of the season.

MasySyma
March 30th, 2013, 05:05 PM
To me, she can't stay if she finds out the truth. Nick has knowingly exposed her to danger and lacks the decency to tell her the truth and risk rejection.

He hides things that threaten her life, and she is already paying the price.
I'll have no respect for her if she "knows" and instantly forgives Nick.

blueray
March 30th, 2013, 05:40 PM
I'm hoping that she does begin to remember Nick and what happened in the trailer. He does tell her, but she doesn't think she could handle not so much the wesen world, but how involved Nick will be and how his life (and hers if she stays with him) will always be in danger. The two have a grown up civilized conversation and which ends with Juliette ending the relationship. Assuming that there is a third season, Juliette will be a recurring character.

Hyndara71
March 30th, 2013, 06:11 PM
I think for the "forgiving" part there will be Monroe there with her at the trailer. Monroe is ways better in doing explanations than Nick and I think IF Juliette will really start to remember when she actually SEES all the stuff in the trailer she will need a damned good explanation not to go completely nuts.
About the "putting her in danger" Nick did tell her to be careful dealing with Adalind. True, he didn't tell her why but he warned her. Did Juliette stop this? Nope. After rewatching the 1st season a couple of times now I cannot judge only Nick. Juliette acted sometimes as NIck would have a 9/5-usual-job which he never had, not as a cop. So, also the cop Nick should have put Juliette in danger just because she's his girlfriend. And I will give that credit to Nick that he didn't really KNEW with what he had to deal with as a Grimm. He acted as he would be a sort of Wesen-cop in season 1.So, he did what he always did - he never told Juliette everything about the cases he worked on. Will you judge him for that too? He also have put Juliette in danger with not telling her after what sort of killer he was before his inheritage began. The right psychopath at the right time also could have done any harm to Juliette, just like Adalind did.
No one from both is to blame here. True, I'm with the most, i want Juliette to know the truth. But I don't want to see her leaving. I think she could be a great part of TeamGrimm, definetely more useful than Hank with her medical background. She and Nick as couple again would be very, very welcome for me, I loved them both together in season 1 and I hated the first half of season 2 with them more or less slowly splitting and drifting away from the other. Next Friday will be episode 2.17, I was talking about episode 2.22. It's not like Juliette remembers and jumps back on Nick's side. I think she will be angry when she finds out, but I think finally they will come together again. Hopeful at the end of the season so we would have a sort of closure just in case NBC would cancel Grimm. I don't see Juliette will marry Nick (well, not now), but there's enough time to bring them together again without letting it look cheap.
My opinion *shrugs*

MasySyma
March 30th, 2013, 06:38 PM
I'm against a reunion for many reasons:

1. You're right that Juliette wanted Nick to work a 9-5 job. This is odd for many reasons. 1. He is a detective. They don't work 9-5, but worse, this couple has been together three years, and she is just now having concerns or problems with his hours and job, making her either inconsistent or idiotic.
2. She needed to be asking questions after the fire dancer episode. She just accepts the bizarre too easily.
3. She won't marry Nick. Their relationship was not going anywhere and now is stalled. Since marriage for them, if that is what they both want, has already been deemed impossible if Nick hides things, then Juliette must leave Nick or accept she will always be kept in the dark.
By the end of Season 1, they are in trouble. In Season 2:
4. Juliette doesn't remember Nick, but she isn't that attracted to him either. She doesn't act like an adult in a relationship or even someone used to living with a roommate. She is a bad partner.
5. She refuses to accept any help from the grandmother in La Llorona. She has no tolerance for the mystic, making her a bad associate for the Grimm. She tolerates Rosalee because she needs her.
6. She doesn't act like a responsible adult ever. She doesn't confront Nick. She whines at Monroe for keeping secrets, but they can't tell her based on how she stubbornly refuses to even discuss the cat scratch.
7. She is nicer to Adalind than Nick.

She needs to go. From the relationship certainly, and from the show if possible.

Klenotka
March 31st, 2013, 03:29 AM
I noticed her lack of respect for Nick´s job. It was when Monroe told her "he has a dangerous job, you know, he is a cop." and she was like "yeah, whatever". That I disliked.

I don´t want them to be together. I like how Nick is now. Ironically, he seems more relaxed now when he doesn´t have to worry about her all the time. Also, if I were Juliette, I wouldn´t be able to forgive him. I absolutely HATE when people lie to me and this was like continuing lie with a hint of amnesia, danger...she almost slept with another man! If she did and it was under the influence of the spell, I can´t imagine how it would feel. I know Nick is probably worried what could it do to her and maybe thinks it´s not that wise to tell her now and let it to solve itself (maybe he hopes she remembers?) and with her behaviour, she wouldn´t probably believe him anyway. He reaction to Monroe´s "Do you remember the cat scratch?" , she responded like, yes, a stubborn teenager that someone mentioned her.

I really hope they can find something useful for her to do - without her and Nick being back together. I don´t want them as a couple this season. It would be too soon and I never really believed them it anyway.
Sorry, Hyn.

mi_guard
March 31st, 2013, 02:21 PM
agree on that, when they became a couple, he was already a cop, so it was clear from the beginning that he would not have an 'office' job and that it would surely be dangerous for him and maybe for her too

Hyndara71
March 31st, 2013, 05:47 PM
As far as we know Nick was a cop, yep, but he wasn't detective when he and Juliette first met (2.06), he was "only" an officer. From what we've seen so far I have the impression that Nick just was promoted short time before his inheritage began, so for me it is possible that Juliette simply haven't got the experience of the difference between those two jobs. Homicide-detective is a pretty hard job, traffic-officer can be difficult sometimes, but not as much as working as a detective. That's my explanation for Juliette's reaction during season 1.

Season 2 is difficult as she cannot remember Nick at all, haven't got a clue with what she has to deal with. True, Nick as a detective and a grimm is a double-dangerous person, especially when you don't realize/remember what happened during the last year. So, for me it is explanable how Juliette reacted so far.

The question is: HOW she will react when she finally remembers? Her first reaction in 1.22 was to run away and tell Nick he's crazy. But 1.21 she asked him if it would be possible that those storys were real. Was that the start of the spell or why Juliette suddenly didn't remembered her own doubts? That's my question.

@MasySyma:
Well, when someone you've never seen before, comes to you, telling you a weird story about somewhat that sounds familiar to (that woman didn't told Juliette exactly what happened to her, she more asked questions) vague enough to could lead to nearly everything but has some aspects you remember, you believe that? Wow! I'm a new age witch and I NEVER ask my clients any question before I do any scrying. I only ask when they are coming because of sicknesses never for soosayings. It's ways too easy to cheat when you already know the answers (besides the fact that 90 % want to know about their love *sigh*).
I know I wouldn't! Whoever would come up to me with such weird stuff I would not believe one single sentence. Besides, I would die to see that woman again. Loved the way the actress did her role :)

MasySyma
March 31st, 2013, 06:06 PM
I could handle her rejection of the old woman if she listened to others. The woman offers her an explanation that could help, and Juliette just pushes her away. If I was in her place, I would be considering information from many sources to make my own decision.

Half of my problem with Juliette is that she is too helpless. She is too passive to be a good partner to Nick.

MasySyma
March 31st, 2013, 06:08 PM
I chalk most of my dislike of Juliette due to poor writing for her character. Adalind and Rosalee are written well, but Juliette's actions would only be believable if she were a teenager.

Hyndara71
April 1st, 2013, 02:39 AM
That's a funny comment about Rosalee and Adalind. Because I wished since Rosalee took the Spice Shop over that she and Juliette would meet (and probably become friends and more). Now it happened and ... to me it appears that Bitsie is the better actress while Bree with her together on screen seems ... weak in her role.
About the "Teenage-thing" ... remember the scenes from 2.07 and 2.11 when Juliette is together with her friends? I think this spell Adalind put over her let her act out of character. Her friends are always shocked about how Juliette is handling the situation with Nick. That's not really the Juliette they know. So I assume the spell also affected her personality. Only the three episodes, since the spell seems to be broken, Juliette is more active, she's more digging around. True, mostly because she fears to lose her mind, but she's more acting like in season 1 now then she was before.

Klenotka
April 1st, 2013, 03:43 AM
But those are just speculations. I wish they would address it directly, not letting us excuse the fact that she, indeed, is badly written, by theories that may or may not be true.
It will be interesting to see her reaction when she remembers - and I hope they won´t leave it to finale but make it happen sooner - because I can imagine her being very, VERY angry.
And, geez, I really, really hope they won´t make them a couple again. At least not in this season.

MasySyma
May 24th, 2013, 06:30 PM
I was surprised at how I liked the writers patching the couple up. I like that Juliette finally started taking charge of her life a bit, and I don't mind them as a couple headed into season 3.

blueray
May 24th, 2013, 06:37 PM
I was happy with it too. Now I want to see a double date in season 3 (with Rosalee and Monroe).

Klenotka
May 25th, 2013, 03:39 AM
I hope Juliette will be useful and not just a damsel in distress. She is, basically, a doctor, so her teaming up with Rosalee could be interesting. She could learn all the stuff Rosalee knows. Nick will need to refresh all those potions and poisons he has in the trailer, they will run out eventually. I think this may be a way how to integrate Juliette into the story.

MasySyma
May 25th, 2013, 06:46 AM
I hope Juliette will be useful and not just a damsel in distress. She is, basically, a doctor, so her teaming up with Rosalee could be interesting. She could learn all the stuff Rosalee knows. Nick will need to refresh all those potions and poisons he has in the trailer, they will run out eventually. I think this may be a way how to integrate Juliette into the story.

I agree. She could become a valued member, and I hope the helpless Juliette stuff stops.