ONCE UPON A TIME - SEASON TWO WE ARE BOTH EPISODE NUMBER - 202 While Regina struggles to regain her powers, the town panics over a discovery made by the Dwarves at the border of Storybrooke. In the fairy tale world a younger Regina meets a man who promises freedom from her domineering mother. VISIT THE EPISODE GUIDE >> |
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Last edited by Darren; 11 October 2012, 01:17 PM. -
I really missed this Series. It is really great how they even spin the old FTL storylines further. Having Cora with Emma and Snow surely cant be a good thing, she will ultimately cross back over and then it might get ugly. I am very curios on how she ended up in that Jail cell after being sent to another world. Rumple is very specific when it comes to wording and he said she would be sent to a useless World to him.
Also weird to find out that the Mad Hatter is not the creator of the Hat. So if he is not, who did make it?
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Great episode! There were a lot of twists and turns I didn't see coming, which kept me on the edge of my seat. It's been a while since I've watched a good edge-of-seat show. One question (that's really two tied together):
Why was Mr. Gold so upset about the line on the edge of town, and did it have something to do with Belle being absent from the episode? Did she leave Storybrooke in the last episode and I missed it somehow?sigpic
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Originally posted by tomstone View PostI really missed this Series. It is really great how they even spin the old FTL storylines further. Having Cora with Emma and Snow surely cant be a good thing, she will ultimately cross back over and then it might get ugly. I am very curios on how she ended up in that Jail cell after being sent to another world. Rumple is very specific when it comes to wording and he said she would be sent to a useless World to him.
Also weird to find out that the Mad Hatter is not the creator of the Hat. So if he is not, who did make it?
I really must need to watch the episode again, because I don't recall the Mad Hatter saying he wasn't the creator of the hat, simply that he couldn't fix the hat. And we'd seen that before. I think the problem is that Emma is not only the curse breaker, but the bringer of magic. Regina wasn't able to make the hat work until Emma touched her, and after Emma was gone, Regina's magic went away again. The Mad Hatter had kidnapped Emma in an effort to get her to make the hat work. So I think it's more that he created the hat, in the magic rich FTL, but he can't fix it or recreate it in the magic poor Storybrooke, at least not without Emma's help.
Originally posted by Rocket_Scientist View PostGreat episode! There were a lot of twists and turns I didn't see coming, which kept me on the edge of my seat. It's been a while since I've watched a good edge-of-seat show. One question (that's really two tied together):
Why was Mr. Gold so upset about the line on the edge of town, and did it have something to do with Belle being absent from the episode? Did she leave Storybrooke in the last episode and I missed it somehow?
I also wondered if, since leaving town means people with regained memories lose those memories again, maybe entering town while having memories might also make you lose them. It wouldn't have affected August because the curse hadn't been broken, but now that it is, the magic might be wonky at the barrier, causing it to act as a reset, no matter which way you cross the barrier.
That could be another reason Rumple was upset, if the city man was in fact Bael. It would mean Bael wouldn't be able to cross into Storybrooke without being affected.sigpicSig by Ikorni for Secret Santa
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I like how they're having Regina play out her story. The darkness is calling out to her, but she has pin pricks of light in her that cause her to resist. she doesn't want to be like her mother, but she's steadily leaning more towards that direction. I wonder if slowly but surely in Storybrooke if she'll be able to start redeeming herself. Giving up Henry to Charming was a good start. A small pinprick of light can widen to a larger hole. Now if only Cora will stay in the Far Away Kingdom and not return with Emma and Snow...maybe Regina will have a fighting chance to not be a complete evil....something or other."I'm afraid the only bandaids we have are Ninja Turtles...that's the last time I let Colonel Sheppard help me with my medical supply list!!"
--Dr. Beckett "Real Life Atlantis" Fanfic
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This show definitely knows how to keep things compelling. The emergence of Regina's mother is going to be so bad for so many.sigpic
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Originally posted by Rocket_Scientist View PostGreat episode! There were a lot of twists and turns I didn't see coming, which kept me on the edge of my seat. It's been a while since I've watched a good edge-of-seat show. One question (that's really two tied together):
Why was Mr. Gold so upset about the line on the edge of town, and did it have something to do with Belle being absent from the episode? Did she leave Storybrooke in the last episode and I missed it somehow?sigpic
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Originally posted by jeri View PostBelle didn't leave. Mr. Gold was planning a trip to find his son Bae, hence all the maps. He had stated in an earlier episode that he was planning a trip. Now he sees that he can't leave without losing his memory. He did not have memory until Emma came to town and he heard her name, in the first episode. Regina was the only one who had memory until then. He made the curse, and manipulated Regina into using it, but now he finds out that there are a few unexpected "side effects". No wonder he was so upset and smashed the glass cabinets in his shop. The whole reason for him making the curse was to get to this world where Bae is, so what will he do now?sigpic
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Originally posted by Rocket_Scientist View PostAha! I knew I was missing something fairly obvious. Everything makes so much more sense now, thanks. I still wonder where Belle was that whole time, though....
If I were Belle, I would first be luxuriating in a long hot bath, then raiding Gold's refigerator and then perhaps enjoying my freedom with a nice walk in the fresh air. Hey, the girl's been locked in a padded cell for 28 years, she needs it!sigpic
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Originally posted by Mrja84 View PostRumpel always knew who he was. He never thought he was Mr. Gold.
I thought it was interesting that Rumpel didn't anticipate that."God save us from half the people who think they're doing God's work." - Dean Winchester
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Originally posted by Lord Kira View PostRumpelstiltskin did have fake memories. He didn't remember who he was until the pilot, the moment Emma gave him her name.sigpicSig by Ikorni for Secret Santa
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Hey, the creators of the show said that Rumple DID NOT know until Emma came, they said this in an interview. Remember the first ep where Gold comes and meets Emma for the first time, he repeats her name. This reminds us of when he was in the prison in FTL he asked Snow what her unborn child's name was, this is of course is why he wanted to know at that time, he worked that cue into the curse for his use.
He may have planned not to remember, so as to not have to wait 28 years, giving himself a break perhaps? Or, it's an unforeseen side effect. In this ep Rumple/Gold didn't know about the fact he would lose his memory if he left town. Obviously, there are side effects with magic that aren't predictable. I believe Rumple has said this himself earlier.
I'll try to find the interview later. I have to leave for the day soon.sigpic
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