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GateWorld
September 30th, 2012, 02:56 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 201</FONT>
<DIV STYLE="margin-top:10px; padding:0;">As the inhabitants of Storybrooke begin to remember their true identities, an angry mob seeks revenge on Regina. In the fairy tale world, Prince Phillip awakens a sleeping beauty only to face the threat of a soul-sucking wraith.</DIV>
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Skydiver
September 30th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Very interesting episode. Everyone knows who they are, but we also get Mulan and Sleeping Beauty.

and the question is answered, will season 1 be in the real world or fairy world? the answer, both.

very good start.

AresLover452
September 30th, 2012, 11:48 PM
O_O!! I am dead!! This episode was a knock out!! I have to watch it a few more times to digest all that happened!!

TrueRomantic
September 30th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Not that it is a huge deal, but the episode title is incorrect in the first post. The description is correct, but the title should be "Broken" instead of "We Are Both."

Anyway, I really liked the episode. I'm glad we will still be seeing both worlds and meeting new people in both worlds.

I also really liked that we found out at the end of the episode that Regina wasn't quite correct in what she said happened to FTL. And I wonder how long it will take them to show us how Philip is supposedly dead in FTL but seemed (to me at least) to be walking around somewhere outside of Storybrooke, perhaps New York or Boston.

All the interactions of the characters were great. I especially like that they seem to be combining their memories. They called various characters by both their Storybrooke name and by their FTL name.

All in all, I'm really looking forward to the next episode and the season as a whole. So far they seem to be really making the curse being broken into a new problem rather than the perfect solution it seemed it should be.

rkgardner2003
October 1st, 2012, 03:30 AM
I thought it was a great start!

I'm pretty sure Philip and the guy in the city are different actors, they guy in the city played a character in the first season of True Blood...

TrueRomantic
October 1st, 2012, 04:26 AM
I thought it was a great start!

I'm pretty sure Philip and the guy in the city are different actors, they guy in the city played a character in the first season of True Blood...

After a second (or fourth or fifth lol) watch, I think you might be right that they are different actors/characters. I was also doing homework the first time I watched, so I probably wasn't paying close enough attention.

But it still brings up all kinds of questions lol!! :P

Mrja84
October 1st, 2012, 07:54 AM
Regina was definitely selective of who came to Storybrooke. Just the people of her domain.

I figured once we saw Mulan and Aurora again that Emma and Snow would drop in. So since I figured it out ahead of time it wasn't such a big reveal especially since Mulan explained about what happened to the untouched areas of FTL for the last 28 years.

They were frozen, not immortal with memory lost, but frozen. Were they completely aware during that time?

Mulan and the Prince seemed to be right near Aurora when the curse was placed and then lifted.

So FTL didn't happen in our past. It is a separate world/universe. So it will be great to see what happens as FTL recovers from the curse compared to Storybrooke.

I imagine that either Rumpel's curse kept everyone from going back to FTL and/or took magic from FTL and that's what lifted them from their frozen state.

Also, who else is wondering exactly who the good doctor is that had the confrontation with Charming at Regina's door? Charming said he did not recognized him from FTL and the doctor said Charming wasn't his prince.

Is the doctor from FTL, if so who is he? Is the doctor from our world? A man from 28 years in the past that got stuck in Regina's curse?

Speaking of which, who was at the area we know as Storybrooke before there was Storybrooke? And what happened to them?

majorsal
October 1st, 2012, 07:11 PM
good ep!! ;)

i didn't want to see the story of sleeping beauty and the prince and mulan, but i knew it was important to what was going on.

on a side note or two: i want to know where regina found henry. was he a baby right when she adopted him? did she adopt him, knowing who he really was? and i learned last night (via a website) that regina named henry after her father. :S :p

i want snow to grow her hair out. i really don't like that short cut on her.

so what have we learned about the wraith, or whatever that creepy ghostly flying thing was? the only way for it to return to it's home (the charm?) is for it to devour the soul of the person marked by it? regina will figure a way out of this. :)

TrueRomantic
October 1st, 2012, 07:33 PM
good ep!! ;)

i didn't want to see the story of sleeping beauty and the prince and mulan, but i knew it was important to what was going on.

on a side note or two: i want to know where regina found henry. was he a baby right when she adopted him? did she adopt him, knowing who he really was? and i learned last night (via a website) that regina named henry after her father. :S :p

i want snow to grow her hair out. i really don't like that short cut on her.

so what have we learned about the wraith, or whatever that creepy ghostly flying thing was? the only way for it to return to it's home (the charm?) is for it to devour the soul of the person marked by it? regina will figure a way out of this. :)
Did you watch last season? Because the gist of Henry coming to Regina (and her naming him after her father) was covered last season. Mr. Gold (Rumple) gave the baby to Regina. They never said (that I remember) exactly how he came to pick that baby to get for Regina when she wanted to adopt, but I'm sure it was all part of his plan to eventually screw Regina over and break the curse by drawing Emma to town lol.

Honestly, I don't think the wraith matters much right now. It seems that it is going to be in FTL for awhile, at least until the others find a portal to go back through. Maybe it can be pulled back into Storybrooke if it's called, but personally I got the impression it isn't going to be the biggest problem this season.

majorsal
October 1st, 2012, 08:41 PM
Did you watch last season? Because the gist of Henry coming to Regina (and her naming him after her father) was covered last season. Mr. Gold (Rumple) gave the baby to Regina. They never said (that I remember) exactly how he came to pick that baby to get for Regina when she wanted to adopt, but I'm sure it was all part of his plan to eventually screw Regina over and break the curse by drawing Emma to town lol.


i watched every ep last season, but... i play on the computer at the same time (or am interrupted), so... i missed that part. :mckay: :p

Ser Scot A Ellison
October 2nd, 2012, 04:11 AM
I want to know how Henry knows he's adopted given he was adopted when he was 3 weeks old. If Regina really wanted to ensure his loyalty simply tell him she is his birth mother and he would be none the wiser.

the fifth man
October 2nd, 2012, 07:39 PM
Very nice season premiere. The wife and I enjoyed it very much. Should be interesting to see where things go from here.

Mrja84
October 3rd, 2012, 10:05 AM
It's never revealed how or why Regina got Mr. Gold to get her a child. I mean she thought Mr. Gold knew nothing of his identity, so he would have the same restrictions as anyone else.

I mean, everyone in Storybrooke lived there for 28 years, never aging. There has to be a cause that limited them from aging, yet they were able to interact with the outside world?

I'm confused

tomstone
October 4th, 2012, 02:08 AM
I loved the first Episode. So good to have it back. This Season is going to be pretty exciting.

As always I got to wonder, why is Magic different in our World? I had a good laugh when Regina wanted to unleash her fury and her face when nothing happened. :)
The actress did a nice Job of pulling out the Queen in Regina by the way "You wanted your Queen? Her she IS!"
I kind of come back to my theory that Emma is actually the source of the magic that was unleashed. Gold somehow managed that Regina did not recieve any Magic, but after Emma touched her and connected her to the Magic the Hat started working. What worries me though is that after Emma was send away she was able to use it again against Charming. Just wondering if her unlocked Powers are permanent or if Emma just gave her a good jolt.

We will probably learn this Season why Sleeping Beautys Realm was untouched, but I am sure it got something to do with Maleficent. Again I go by my theorie that True Love is the most Powerful. So their Kindom was spared because Sleeping Beauty and the Princes love for each other.

Edit: After a rewatch I just noticed how Sleeping Beauty thought she slept less then one year and Mulan telling her that it was just in a manner of speaking. Did I miss something? Time really seems to be a bigger Part in OUAT. FTL was frozen just as long as Storybrooke was in their Daydream state. So time in both worlds go the same pace. What still bugs me with it is that the Storys are known. Emma was so shocked, because she was really standing in front of Snow White. She just never got the words out.

Mrja84
October 4th, 2012, 09:22 AM
I loved the first Episode. So good to have it back. This Season is going to be pretty exciting.

As always I got to wonder, why is Magic different in our World? I had a good laugh when Regina wanted to unleash her fury and her face when nothing happened. :)
The actress did a nice Job of pulling out the Queen in Regina by the way "You wanted your Queen? Her she IS!"
I kind of come back to my theory that Emma is actually the source of the magic that was unleashed. Gold somehow managed that Regina did not recieve any Magic, but after Emma touched her and connected her to the Magic the Hat started working. What worries me though is that after Emma was send away she was able to use it again against Charming. Just wondering if her unlocked Powers are permanent or if Emma just gave her a good jolt.

We will probably learn this Season why Sleeping Beautys Realm was untouched, but I am sure it got something to do with Maleficent. Again I go by my theorie that True Love is the most Powerful. So their Kindom was spared because Sleeping Beauty and the Princes love for each other.

Edit: After a rewatch I just noticed how Sleeping Beauty thought she slept less then one year and Mulan telling her that it was just in a manner of speaking. Did I miss something? Time really seems to be a bigger Part in OUAT. FTL was frozen just as long as Storybrooke was in their Daydream state. So time in both worlds go the same pace. What still bugs me with it is that the Storys are known. Emma was so shocked, because she was really standing in front of Snow White. She just never got the words out.

About the issue of time, recall that the Wraith went into FTL shortly before Emma and Snow, yet the wraith appeared at least hours (or a day) earlier than them. So the passage of time IS different.

Also, Mulan said they were in a frozen state since the curse was enacted 28 years ago. So perhaps, the time difference isn't that big.

tomstone
October 5th, 2012, 10:54 AM
About the issue of time, recall that the Wraith went into FTL shortly before Emma and Snow, yet the wraith appeared at least hours (or a day) earlier than them. So the passage of time IS different.

Also, Mulan said they were in a frozen state since the curse was enacted 28 years ago. So perhaps, the time difference isn't that big.

Thats probably true, but why did Mulan then say that this was the last 28 Years. If the Time difference is so significant it should have been double the time.

mr_kennedy
November 24th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Great start, good episode :D


Thats probably true, but why did Mulan then say that this was the last 28 Years. If the Time difference is so significant it should have been double the time.

Maybe it is, but they were frozen for a long time

Sp!der
December 27th, 2012, 09:56 AM
Awesome start to the new season, hopefully I'll be able to catch up with the new episodes untill episode ten is aired. Sleeping Beauty is really cute, I like her, I still can't stand Snow White and Prince Charming although they weren't that annoying like in season one.

I feel kind of bad for The Queen and Rumpelstilcksen .... they are not bad per se but made bad choises in their past lifes, I hope they will be redeemed someday.

Baron Of Hell
January 9th, 2015, 08:33 AM
Good start to this season. The only bad thing is the scale of the stuff that is happening. Hundreds or thousands of people were brought over from FTL. There should have been a lot more people coming after the evil queen. It kind of takes me out of the story but just a little.

I could see why Henry would want to protect the evil queen but I felt it was odd for Snow, Charming , and Emma to protect her. Regina murdered people they love and tried to kill them more than once.

I kind of want to know what happen to the mad hatter and Grace. Hatter kind of vanished after freeing Belle. Grace must remember her father now.

jelgate
January 9th, 2015, 02:18 PM
You will disappoint I think. A central theme for OUAT is forgiveness. Even Regina.

garhkal
January 10th, 2015, 10:00 PM
Did you watch last season? Because the gist of Henry coming to Regina (and her naming him after her father) was covered last season. Mr. Gold (Rumple) gave the baby to Regina. They never said (that I remember) exactly how he came to pick that baby to get for Regina when she wanted to adopt, but I'm sure it was all part of his plan to eventually screw Regina over and break the curse by drawing Emma to town lol..

From watching latter eps, it seems rumple had designs on needing "the savior" to come in, and what better way than her kid. SO he somehow knew who the kid would be (so did pan, rumps father) and somehow left storybrook to bring the kid to Regina



We will probably learn this Season why Sleeping Beautys Realm was untouched, but I am sure it got something to do with Maleficent. Again I go by my theorie that True Love is the most Powerful. So their Kindom was spared because Sleeping Beauty and the Princes love for each other.

From how it looks, each "realm" is separate, so a curse in one, won't hit another. Even if that separation is a sea..