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Thanx sooooooooooooo much for the Fab 'moebius' pics.
I have got to wait until July to finally see the series finale as i don't have SKY and have been grabbing the series 8 DVD's as soon as they are released.....but you have really wet my apetite.
Could Jack get any sexier?......i think not!
Welcome Kate the gater if you check my music video site I made a few music videos with shippy scenes season 8 just in case you can't wait until July
Here's someshippy fanart for everybody who needs it!
Now, for my own somewhat offbeat perception of the 'ship:
Have you ever "had feelings for" someone you work with? Someone you really respect? Someone you're *NOT* technically (for whatever reason) supposed to be with? "Forbidden love" is very hard to admit, even when it's mutual. And even when both parties agree to go ahead and explore the relationship, the angst/conflict doesn't exactly disappear overnight. You know how to be friends/colleagues, not lovers, and it's a difficult transition to make. DON'T ASK me how I know this!
Honestly, think about it for a minute. If TPTB had ended the season with Jack retiring and proposing to Sam (which admittedly would have been great!), would it have felt realistic? More importantly, would it have been true to the characters? The way I interpret them, S&J wouldn't suddenly drop all their inhibitions and declare their love for one another. It wouldn't happen that way. It would happen slowly. They'd be discreet. And cautious, considering the many times they've both been hurt before...and even hurt each other!
Feelings don't turn on and off like a lightswitch. IMO, S&J's transition into "togetherness" couldn't be anything but slow and semi-ambivalent ("Is this really OK now?") I think that's where Moeibus left us.
Now we just have to trust TPTB to not drop the ball entirely. I therefore have no clue what to expect in S9.
Here's someshippy fanart for everybody who needs it!
Now, for my own somewhat offbeat perception of the 'ship:
Have you ever "had feelings for" someone you work with? Someone you really respect? Someone you're *NOT* technically (for whatever reason) supposed to be with? "Forbidden love" is very hard to admit, even when it's mutual. And even when both parties agree to go ahead and explore the relationship, the angst/conflict doesn't exactly disappear overnight. You know how to be friends/colleagues, not lovers, and it's a difficult transition to make. DON'T ASK me how I know this!
Honestly, think about it for a minute. If TPTB had ended the season with Jack retiring and proposing to Sam (which admittedly would have been great!), would it have felt realistic? More importantly, would it have been true to the characters? The way I interpret them, S&J wouldn't suddenly drop all their inhibitions and declare their love for one another. It wouldn't happen that way. It would happen slowly. They'd be discreet. And cautious, considering the many times they've both been hurt before...and even hurt each other!
Feelings don't turn on and off like a lightswitch. IMO, S&J's transition into "togetherness" couldn't be anything but slow and semi-ambivalent ("Is this really OK now?") I think that's where Moeibus left us.
Now we just have to trust TPTB to not drop the ball entirely. I therefore have no clue what to expect in S9.
Hello ST-1 Welcome!
I understand your point but disagree regarding regarding S/J I was expecting a situation like you describe but...
Spoiler:
something happened in threads... something that I don't know but from suddenly having all the inhibitions in the world, when Jack comes to the infirmary Sam takes his hand and starts touching it like it it was very natural, completely the opposite from what her normal behaviour was and for me it has nothing to do with her father's situation....
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I think you have a really valid point there, and is what I would expect to happen.
I *love* the infirmary scene in Threads.
Spoiler:
Initially you think that both Sam & Jack are acting very out of character. Usually they go to great lengths not to touch each other ... except for moments of intense emotion - eg Heroes or Death Knell hug. The infirmary scene is another such moment - but in view of the fact they are in full view of SGC staff & Tok'ra, not to mention DAD , instead of a full blown hug its more discreet and is more emotive for being so. But this is a comfort situation, offering and accepting support - something they are both familiar with, not a full-blown romantic situation, despite the shippy overtones.
Then in Moebius, the hand porn puts us in a new category all together. The cubs comment from Jack shows that he and Sam have spent time alone together since Threads, and they are obviously comfortable with each other. At the end of Moebius when we get back to the original team and Jack tells Sam to get packing, I think there's no doubting the Looks = HWMS at the cabin.
Just to straddle both sides of the fence for a while,
Spoiler:
I think if RDA was going to be in S9 as normal, then ST-1's scenario would be the one we were following. But because of RDA's absence, I think tptb stepped up the agenda a little to give us some resolution.
This must be really difficult for Katethegater to follow cos she hasn't seen the eps yet. Sorry! ((((((((Hugs)))))))))
Awwww! More birthday wishes! Thanks everyone . Have some cake ..... I'm afraid there's not much left - some guy with grey hair and a smirk turned up and ate most of it ....
I hold out a lot of hope for Jack & Sam in S9. Just because we're not getting any spoilers doesn't mean there won't be any ship. I think we could see Jack more than we expect since they're not taking his character away. And where else to go with Jack's character development and team relationship than getting him together with Sam because other than the fact that they're perfect together, it would keep him in touch with the Stargate scene so he could easily slip back into the flow of the show when he decides to return.
In the Kingdom of Hope, there is no Winter
Life is too short for drama & petty things,
so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly & forgive quickly!
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Hic Comitas Regit
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Member of Gategrrlz Gone Wild (proud Shore Leave 28 attendee).
Sorry the pix isn't bigger. I pulled something in a hurry. I'll do something better for you this weekend.
Second.....
Originally posted by Oma-1
Hey TN - better be careful about mixing those cookies with prozac - never know what might happen....
If you're lucky you might get
Alternatively .... *shudder*
If you think it will help, I'll try to find some before July 15th.....
Originally posted by majorsal
i came into fandom in season 4, and we always had shippy spoilers given to us. season 8 was the first time it didn't happen (and remember how wonderful that season's ship stuff ended up ).
sally
I just love you guys! Oma-1, MajorSal, ForeverSg1, pittsburghgirl, uber, tsaxlady and everyone else on this thread.....I'd love to meet all of you.....'cause I can just tell what great people you are. You always make me feel better, even when I've given up hope on our ship ever reaching port.
Another observation, especially important tonight: It's 10 minutes til E.R., and Noah Wyle's last episode as a regular cast member. I believe I heard about him and RDA leaving their respective shows around the same time, and at first, I think I was more upset about Noah (heresy, I know---but true). Now that the shock has settled, I'm much more upset about RDA's departure, and I think I've figured out why.
1. We know Noah will appear in at least four episodes per season for the next two years.
2. John Carter's storyline will be neatly wrapped up, with no loose ends left dangling. Ok, I always wanted him to get back together with Abby, but I wasn't obsessed with it like I am with Sam and Jack. The bond wasn't as strong, or as long between J & A as it is with our Sam & Jack.
This is key, and (I think) the source of most of my RDA angst.....because with RDA, we just don't know what the future holds.
Will we ever see him again if S9 is the last season of SG-1? We don't know.
Is his storyline in a good "stopping place?"
NO!
And the main reason is Sam. If TPTB don't let Sam and Jack make an acknowledged commitment to each other, it will violate everything I feel I have come to know about SG-1 over eight years. I'll feel like I didn't know these characters after all.
You all know, as I know, that these two characters, given all they have been through to get to the point where they were at the end of S8, would choose to be together. Heck, they've wanted to be together for years! Nothing else makes sense, and if it doesn't happen, TPTB will have violated a basic part of their canon. So, it just has to work out.
It just has to!
Now, Noah Wyle is waiting for me!
Last edited by sg-1fanintn; 19 May 2005, 06:12 PM.
I was hoping to get some reaction to this comment: During the infirmary scene--
1.)
Spoiler:
Did either of them still think that the other might remain romantically involved with someone else? At least, S. didn't know about K.'s departure yet; and to J., she was still technically engaged to P. Did they both forget that P. and K. had even existed?
Agree? Disagree? Response?
2.) What thoughts ran through her mind when she looked at him? (Actual words)
3.) What did he think to himself when
Spoiler:
he saw her look at him with more courage and openness than she ever had before?
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