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Hyndara71
August 17th, 2012, 03:13 AM
One of the first things I stumbled over in Grimm is this relationship between Nick and Monroe (which will hopeful continue in season 2). As I'm far away of slashing them (come on, Nick is bounded to Juliette, and Monroe definitely interested in Rosalee!) I love this friendship which is grown between them, especially because they are so different.
So I think we need a thread to talk about the Grimm and his big, not so bad wolf ;)

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mi_guard
August 17th, 2012, 03:22 AM
fully agree on that - they are really great friends! I am sure when they first met none of them would have even dreamed to become such good friends

Hyndara71
August 17th, 2012, 03:30 AM
:lol: We already know what Monroe was thinking about Nick in the Pilot. And I love how he tried to escape that friendship during the first episodes only to find his puppy-eyed Baby-Grimm again on his porch.
About Nick ... I'm pretty sure he first saw only a possibility to find a well of information about this new world he was suddenly stucked in. But Monroe and his Blutbad-charme hit that really fast away, especially because Monroe started from the very beginning on to feed Nick with private informations about his family and own life.

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac88/Hyndara71/112-last-grimm-standing/112-015.jpg

mi_guard
August 17th, 2012, 03:41 AM
and Monroe got so concerned when he was waiting for the outcome of the Nick/Adalind 'meeting' - he realized that there was a very concrete possibility that Nick would not make it out of it alive and he wanted to go and help his friend

Hyndara71
August 17th, 2012, 04:26 AM
Yeah, that's such a great scene!

blueray
August 17th, 2012, 06:15 AM
i love their friendship. epecially since it took them almost a whole season to admit that they were friends. i personally love when they try to figure out what part of their relationship they wouldn't have to lie to juliett about.

and i wonder if i'm the only one would thinks a Nick and Monroe stake out would be a good scene (and i mean just as friends not slasher).

Hyndara71
August 17th, 2012, 06:27 AM
Absolutely! Maennerabend! :D
And that's as friendship-fan, no slash.

mi_guard
August 17th, 2012, 03:07 PM
I think this picture is ideal for this thread :)

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mi_guard
August 17th, 2012, 03:15 PM
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mi_guard
August 17th, 2012, 03:36 PM
remember the episode where Monroe exasperatedly says that Nick should probably get his own set of keys for Monroe's house? just now I do not remember which one it was - but I am wondering if in the meantime Nick got his own keys :)

Klenotka
August 18th, 2012, 01:47 PM
Their friendship is one of my favourite things on the show as well. I love their weird conversations ("What´s my favourite color?"...."I feel so much closer to you now" :D)
Monroe was basically Nick´s first mentor. For both of them, it is an achievement. Nick with his untouched, unspoilt perspective (he wasn´t raised as a Grimm so has his own ideas how to do things) persuated Monroe that Grimm can be a good person and I think he could get VERY protective over Monroe. And Monroe maybe even feels proud that it was him who showed Nick everything he knew, helped him and also made him a "good Grimm". If it makes sense :D

blueray
August 19th, 2012, 06:17 AM
I agree. without meeting Monroe, who knows what Nick would have become.

Hyndara71
August 24th, 2012, 03:43 PM
Captured a little bit from "Plumed Serpent" - originally for making art. But some caps are Art :D

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mi_guard
August 25th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Captured a little bit from "Plumed Serpent" - originally for making art. But some caps are Art :D

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac88/Hyndara71/114_plumed_serpent/th_114-017.jpg (http://s888.photobucket.com/albums/ac88/Hyndara71/114_plumed_serpent/?action=view¤t=114-017.jpg)

have you seen the logo just below Monroe? it says "Fashion Star" :lol:

Hyndara71
August 25th, 2012, 03:03 PM
have you seen the logo just below Monroe? it says "Fashion Star" :lol:

:lol: Yeah, isn't that an accurate description :D

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blueray
August 26th, 2012, 06:31 AM
have you seen the logo just below Monroe? it says "Fashion Star" :lol:

lol, that total fits Monroe :)

Hyndara71
August 31st, 2012, 07:20 AM
It's time to dust this thread a little off :)

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Hyndara71
August 31st, 2012, 09:51 AM
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Klenotka
September 1st, 2012, 06:37 AM
I noticed one thing in the last episode - Nick left Monroe in the trailer by himself. I thought it was an incredible sign of their trust. I love these subtle things in the story :)

Hyndara71
September 1st, 2012, 07:40 AM
I noticed one thing in the last episode - Nick left Monroe in the trailer by himself. I thought it was an incredible sign of their trust. I love these subtle things in the story :)

Maybe Monroe has his own key - and Nick also have one for Monroe's house :D?
But yes, that was great. I only would love to see more interaction between the boyz again. Right now Monroe is only barely used on the episodes. I hope for "Quill" ...

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Klenotka
September 1st, 2012, 11:34 AM
Actually, I thought he might have his own key. Nick ran away after all and left Monroe there. :)
I hope in more interaction in the future, too and involving Hank now could be a fun. Nick creating his "scooby gang" will make it easier for all the characters to interact :)

Hyndara71
September 1st, 2012, 11:56 AM
Yeah, but he could also gave his key to Monroe, don't know.
Well, about Hank becoming part of Nick's Grimm-gang ... we will see. For now I have problems with involving him too deep. But maybe I'm wrong there and it will turn out as a big success for all. We'll see what TPTB is doing with that ...

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Hehe, the classic "Mummy Coyotl and Daddy Coyotl love each other very much". I love Nick's face there - priceless!

blueray
September 1st, 2012, 12:42 PM
Yeah, but he could also gave his key to Monroe, don't know.
Well, about Hank becoming part of Nick's Grimm-gang ... we will see. For now I have problems with involving him too deep. But maybe I'm wrong there and it will turn out as a big success for all. We'll see what TPTB is doing with that ...


I feel this way too. I'm glad that he knows (or at least doesn't think hes crazy anymore). but i'm afraid Hank knowing would take away from the Monroe and Nick friendship.

Hyndara71
September 1st, 2012, 01:03 PM
i feel this way too. I'm glad that he knows (or at least doesn't think hes crazy anymore). But i'm afraid hank knowing would take away from the monroe and nick friendship.

this!

Klenotka
September 2nd, 2012, 04:04 AM
It is difficult. Hank was an underdeveloped character and I never really felt Nick and Hank as real partners, just colleagues. This could help Hank´s character and also create a different relationship between them. It is possible that Hank will tell Nick "I know, but I want nothing to have with this". Different people react to different people in different ways. So I am sure it would take nothing from Nick and Monroe´s friendship. Hank and Nick would just be in "police" world as it was now, only with a big change that Hank is not in the dark anymore.
I, for example, want to see more Nick/Rosalee interaction because the way they talked about Nick hiding his secret in her first episode was one of the best scenes in Season 1.
And the best shows are defined by mixing characters and relationships without taking away what is specific and good about them :)

Hyndara71
September 2nd, 2012, 04:48 AM
I'm with you. On one hand I'm reliefed that Hank does know now about the Wesen und that Nick is a Grimm and he's not going crazy. But I don't see them as a triangle (Nick/Monroe/Hank) working together.
Nick seems to me like someone who is automatically hiding things from others, maybe because of his loss (if or if not Mummy Burkhardt is alive, at last he tought for 18 years she was dead - and his Dad IS dead). As he'd told Juliette in season 1 (Love Sick) that he doesn't talk much about private things with Hank. During more or less the first half of the season 1 he also tries to act this way with Monroe. But whatever Monroe did he finally made the wall Nick was hiding behind coming down - but (again) not completely as Monroe became one of Nick's personal secrets of his own. That's why I love the scene in "Leave it to the Beavers" so much when Nick tells Monroe about Juliette's invitation and he's panicking in Monroe's kitchen about their relationship.
Back to Hank I cannot see how this would work. One thing I love about Grimm that the characters are different but also archetype. As I see Monroe as Nick's sidekick I don't see how Hank would fit into this team. As you've said, Hank deciding to stay as Nick's partner for the police - that's fine with me, Hank entering the Wesen-world ... that doesn't work out good for Hank at last I fear. He isn't prepared for what is going on out there and Nick would be a lot more vulnerable with Hank by his side - and he's vulnerable enough in my opinion with Juliette (no matter if or if she not remembers, at least they are living together and he loves her).

About Nick/Rosalee - I am so with you! Would love to see more with them together!

mi_guard
September 2nd, 2012, 11:34 AM
some nice Nick and Monroe moments :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EuSax1NttQ

Hyndara71
September 2nd, 2012, 12:02 PM
Hilarious! Thanks for sharing, mi_guard!
My boyz, they are just my boyz :lol:

Klenotka
September 3rd, 2012, 01:11 PM
I loved how Monroe seemed jealous when Nick called Rosalee instead of him :D

Hyndara71
September 3rd, 2012, 02:55 PM
I loved how Monroe seemed jealous when Nick called Rosalee instead of him :D

I'm pretty sure he not only seemed jealous :lol:
God, they had so good scenes together in the first season. I really hope there will be some more in season 2 ... *sigh*

blueray
September 4th, 2012, 10:23 AM
well in this past episode when Nick calls and they are both there :)

Klenotka
September 4th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Yeah, it was a great scene. And I was glad to see them talking also about a personal stuff, not just Nick asking "what is this?"

Hyndara71
September 4th, 2012, 12:49 PM
well in this past episode when Nick calls and they are both there :)

I was so laughing my ass offf there :lol:! OMG, one good advice: Never, never ever watch a new episode of Grimm during breakfast. It's not good for you, it's not good for your breakfast and it's not good for your laptop ... ;)

Hyndara71
September 5th, 2012, 12:41 PM
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blueray
September 6th, 2012, 09:39 AM
I was so laughing my ass offf there :lol:! OMG, one good advice: Never, never ever watch a new episode of Grimm during breakfast. It's not good for you, it's not good for your breakfast and it's not good for your laptop ... ;)
that i can relate too, except it was lunch :).

Hyndara71
September 6th, 2012, 12:42 PM
that i can relate too, except it was lunch :).

Dinner anyone :lol:?

mi_guard
September 8th, 2012, 06:06 AM
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Klenotka
September 12th, 2012, 12:04 PM
That´s cute :D I saw some of their interviews and they are obviously friends also behind the scenes :)

Klenotka
September 27th, 2012, 10:38 AM
I just watched episode Of Mouse and Man and the scene at the end, with Nick and Monroe saying "we are not going to give up this" after Monroe was attacked gave me goosebumps. It was, I think, one of the definitive confirmation of their trust.
While I believe (after rewatching Game Ogre) that Nick sent Monroe to his trailer purely for practical reasons (he couldn´t and there was nobody else to do it) and he wouldn´t have revealed the trailer to Monroe for a while without the attack, this scene showed that Monroe wanted to help Nick for the first time without any specific reason. He was reluctant helper in previous episodes but I think after he was beaten by other wesen (probably sent by reapers), he was determined to help Nick.
Simply put, I loved that scene :)

Hyndara71
September 27th, 2012, 02:01 PM
Yeah, that scene also gives me goosebumps every time I watch it! Another one is in "Last Grimm Standing" when Nick decides to go into the fight-cage to keep Monroe save. Monroes mimic in that moment when he's realizing that Nick would give his life for him (no matter if or if there's no backup coming, that croco-creature could have killed both in that time the backup needed to go there).
About the scene in Game Ogre ... Nick is definetely hesitating before he tells Monroe about the trailer. I think it IS a big sign of his trust to give the key to Monroe und tell him about the Airstream. After I've finished season 1 today (with a big rewatch of the three-parter :D) I'm again thinking a lot about how the different relationships are growing during season 1. Game Ogre is a key-moment in their relationship because all the time Nick also have Marie's warning in mind about Wesen and that they better never learn about the trailer. And just Kelly reminds him again on that, when he drives her there.
True, there's no one else there who he can send in Game Ogre but his hesitating before he finally tells Monroe about his inheritage also makes me think. And after Game Ogre their relationship (aka friendship here, I'm not a slasher - usually) changes. Nick is much more open to Monroe than before.
That's what I love on the show, we actually SEE how this friendship is growing not like on SGA where Shep and McKay suddenly and out of the blue became buddies (don't get me wrong here, I still love McShep-friendship, but I never got how this friendship began).

blueray
September 27th, 2012, 05:17 PM
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That's what I love on the show, we actually SEE how this friendship is growing not like on SGA where Shep and McKay suddenly and out of the blue became buddies (don't get me wrong here, I still love McShep-friendship, but I never got how this friendship began).

I've never thought about that before. yeah, I too can't think of when Shepard and Mckay become freinds, but I'm glad that they do :).

I hope there will be some good Monroe and Nick scenes in tomorrows episode.

Klenotka
September 28th, 2012, 04:24 AM
I am not a slasher at all so let´s not go there :D
I love McKay/Sheppard friendship and I think it was also very well developed in the course of Season 1. But then it was on and off in the following seasons but I still loved their moments.

You are right about the change of Nick´s relationship to Monroe. I am curious to see how Hank will react if he finds out it was Nick and Monroe who saved his life that night.
After the Game Ogre, you can see them talking about personal stuff, having dinners (and breakfast!) together and also, there is Nick´s concern for Monroe´s safety that was there never before. He just took it for granted that Monroe was there to help but I think after this (and the cage fight) it was a huge step for him and them both.

Hyndara71
September 28th, 2012, 08:53 AM
Don't get me wrong (and yes, I know this is getting OT) but where in season 1 we saw any development of the friendship between Shep and McKay? During Rising they barely noticed each other (besides the puddlejumper-base showed to Shep by Rodney), Hide & Seek this continued, 38 Minutes McKay was too busy with the Jumper ... the first real development (and the only) was in Brotherhood, when Shep said he had done the Mensa test and McKay suddenly became aware of him as a person of interest not only as dumb military-man. After that, suddenly they were friends - a little too fast for my personal taste.

Nick and Monroe grew slowly to friends, and that's what I like more. At first all the lamentos from Monroe whenever Nick showed up at his place (oh, I soo LOVE that whenever he started to complain :D). And I really still love his statement in Bears will be Bears, when he tells Nick that he's the only Wesen "stupid enough to talk to you". That explains a lot to me, much more than all this jumping backwards whenever a Wesen becomes aware of Nick as a Grimm.
Maybe I'm a little too ... can't explain ... *scratches head* ... Do you know the character-studies one LJ-member had done a while ago about Nick and Monroe? I have to say, after I've read what she had written I was stunned because that was exactly what I think about both of them :).

Klenotka
September 28th, 2012, 09:56 AM
The jump backwards is caused by the fear of Grimms. As Monroe said, Grimms were rarely seen but the stories about them were scary. Every nation has a story about somebody "coming for you if you don´t go to bed" or something. We have a few creepy ones so I can imagine this sticks with them. Maybe some of them doubt that Grimms even exist and when they meet Nick, the first thing they remember are those stories. Honestly, the descriptions Nick reads always describe violent creatures and how to defeat them, not slaughtering entire villages just for fun. I am sure there were Grimms who killed because they thought they had to but as Marie said - you have to kill the bad ones. Monroe is a very unusual Bludbad so that´s why his relationship with Nick is so special. If I can tell by his stories - his family wasn´t exactly the most peaceful bunch so to meet a Bludbad who isn´t violent is probably rare as well. So when these two met, it was...well, meant to happen? :) Also, that´s why they probably trust and support each other - they know how difficult it is for the other one to be different and go against the rules (however Nick may be new in this, he knows that what he does isn´t exactly by the book and I am sure his insticts are probably going wild sometimes, judging by his "grimm side" :))
If it makes sense at all :D

Hyndara71
September 28th, 2012, 10:29 AM
You read my mind *iz nodding*
With other words, exactly what I thought of both.
Besides ... I don't think Nick had bewildered thoughts in his mind in season 1. I think that is what Renard told the Reapers about him: he had a conscience. But with Juliette's memory loss and the pain he must feel about this this conscience falls more and more apart and Nick is more and more in Grimm-mode all the time. Now I think he has this ... fantasies and emotions but still is fighting against the "dark side" - if you get what I mean.
I think the friendship to Monroe (and also to Rosalee) is now a kind of anchor for Nick not to drift in too deep of his Grimm-side. Would he also lose their friendship ... I'm not sure what he would finally became. Maybe something like Kelly?
Maybe that's the difference also between the sisters Kessler/Burkhardt. Marie was in a relationship with a Wesen and learned to accept them, Kelly on the other hand has a complete different view. Only the reactions to Monroe: Marie warned him before they both could be attacked (sure, he had to protect her in first place in that situation), Kelly said to Monroe and Rosalee that this friendship doesn't make sense to her. I'm not sure if she would warn any of them if they would be in danger.

About Monroe's family, well, I hope one day we will learn a bit more about them. Thinking again about Game Ogre when Monroe entered the trailer and his first line is: "Dad, I swear to God I do the right thing!" Maybe he chosed the way he is now on because of the death of his father or got involved with the Wieder-church because of his father. Don't know ...

Klenotka
September 29th, 2012, 05:20 AM
Do you have the link to thet LJ article? :)
I love male friendship on Tv shows, especially those very unlikely, created by unusual cirmustances between very different people :)

Hyndara71
September 29th, 2012, 05:39 AM
Do you have the link to thet LJ article? :)
I love male friendship on Tv shows, especially those very unlikely, created by unusual cirmustances between very different people :)

Here's (http://grimm-tv.livejournal.com/84374.html)the comm-entry with all three links to the separate studies she'd done.
Well, I'm not male but I can tell you those weird friendships happens ;).

Klenotka
September 29th, 2012, 08:31 AM
Interesting. But since I am not a slasher, I disagree with some points (I am actually beginning to hate slash because it seems to be everywhere these days, ruining stories and characters I like). I understand it was written after Season 1 but I think she never pointed out also Nick´s instability.
I mean, she refers to him as a hero type, which he certainly is but "hero" doesn´t mean he has to be purely good.
The part about him wanting a stable home after he probably moved a lot with Marie, makes sense so I understand his hesitation about telling Juliette and Hank. But as he has all insticts and powers of the Grimm, I think it would be good also add that maybe in time, he may change even more. She wrote correctly that Nick and Monroe were on the edge around each other in the beginning and now, they trust each other completely. I believe Nick would never hurt Monroe or Rosalee or any of his wesen neighbours. But as we saw with Angelina, there may be a problem with their close relatives or friends. If Nick knew they could be dangerous, he could go against their wishes and go get rid of the bad ones. I am not saying strictly kill but as we saw with Angelina, it is not easy to decide if he should be Grimm or cop first and I suspect, from his recent behaviour, that the Grimm side may be the one to come out more often.
I love their friendship but I would love to see them to face some real trouble, some misunderstanding, like the one they had with Angelina. It was very early in Season 1, when they weren´t exactly friends so I am curious how it would be now. I guess we´ll find out.
Monroe is with Rosalee now but it doesn´t mean he would allow Nick to hurt Angelina.
Conflicts are part of any relationship. It´s not only happy times all the time so I can´t wait to see the writers taking the show and their friendship.
It is one of the great things about Grimm - it is unpredictable :D

blueray
September 29th, 2012, 12:04 PM
I definitely would want to see Monroe's family. and assuming they are like typical bulbuds it would be interesting to see nick's reaction to them. I think (and like)that his grimm side comes out more than his cop side.

Hyndara71
September 29th, 2012, 12:29 PM
It's true, she's a slasher - I should have warn you, sorry for that *insert Nicks puppy eyes here*.
And yeah, especially that parts about Nicks time with Marie and how he trusts Monroe more and more is really fascinating (and i have to admit that I mostly use her studies for my fanfics - which aren't slash either, maybe pre-slash but as I simply not see them together as a couple I'm more playing around with the fantasies of my readers than putting them together).

That's true, and I really can't await to watch next week's episode. I'm curious about how Angelinas return will turn out and what will Nick do to protect Monroe - and what will Monroe probably do to protect Angelina ... ;) It's time that they have some ... complications in their friendship.

Interesting statement about "hating slash" BTW - so I felt (and sometimes I still feel) about SG. You know what? Never look into the German fandom, no matter which one, there are always countless slash-stories and for some fandoms (like SG) slasher are really heavy protected by Mods and Admins. No fun there :(. That's why I love to read fanfics in English (and I also love that I'm nearly the only German Grimm-writer at the moment :D. True, barely comments but no misguist :)).

Hyndara71
September 29th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I definitely would want to see Monroe's family. and assuming they are like typical bulbuds it would be interesting to see nick's reaction to them. I think (and like)that his grimm side comes out more than his cop side.

Mh, from Monroe's reaction in "Game Ogre" I think that his father is probably dead, and his Mom ... Don't know exactly but she should be very, very old now with a Brother who was alive during the 3. Reich. Maybe, when she is younger than him, she could be on the same age as my parents were, which means around her 70ths to the 80ths. I don't think she's a threat to anyone anymore.
Well, another story is about other relatives. Monroe has cousins, maybe brothers and sisters, maybe nephews and nieces. That would be interesting to find out. Seems to be a pretty big family even when they lose two cousins (and a sheepdog) during a family-meeting :D.

Klenotka
September 29th, 2012, 02:03 PM
I stopped reading (and writing) fan fiction some time ago. There is no time and it is really difficult for me to find one that would hold my attention. I am just too picky :D

I am wondering if they get to a situation when Nick will be forced to choose sides. I am curious how would also a meeting with other Grimms go. That would be also interesting because not every Grimm is Nick´s mother :D To protect Monroe, Rosalee and the others before other Grimms...Kill reapers is one thing, but Grimms are still his own. He may not feel it that way (yet) but as I understand, they are (however distant) relatives so it would also mean to go against a family of sorts.
Soon after they started with royal families, I read a few theories that Grimms are, in fact, mercenaries, who can change sides. I thought Nick leading an uprising against royal families (who have obviously everybody under their control - sending Grimms to kill Wesen and Reapers to kill Grimms), with Wesen AND Grimms covering his back, could be an epic finale of (hopefully very distant) last season :D

Hyndara71
September 29th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Well, writing is a big part of my life, not only fanfics, also original stuff. Some time ago I had a chance to launch one of my original scripts at a major publisher and maybe become a real author on this way. Something I worked my entire life on *bitter laughing*. Well, that dream got bursted like dreams always tend to do *shrugs*. But I simply cannot give up the storytelling so I keep on writing, more and more fanfics because after what happened it's the only way for me to get recognized and can show that it's MY stuff :(. BTW, I'm a little lazy with developing my own worlds and characters right now. Writing fanfics is fun to me, like making fanart.

You know what? That's an idea I also had after the first time I watched 1.13 ... :eek: There's something really weird with this show ...

Well, as far as I've understood Kelly there were also more families who became Grimm, not only one. So the chance is fifty/fifty that they would be relatives. That Nick is feeling with others was showed in 1.14 when Monroe told him about that dead Grimm in Europe his cousin had told him about. But, don't know how other Grimm would react when they would find Nick. I hope after Marie and Farley it's not so rare for Grimm to have any kind of relationship with Wesen but maybe that's only about the US-Grimm, don't know. BTW that would be for interest for me: are there more Grimm in America? Or is it only the family around Nick? And why they left Europe? Because of the coins or was there something else going on?

Yeah, I also hope that there will be some other seasons. Don't know where but I've found one statement that they would need four to five seasons to tell their complete story (and again the magical five ... ;)). Well, with me this would be fine :) I only hope NBC will renew Grimm soon ...

Klenotka
September 29th, 2012, 04:17 PM
I also write my original stuff but I never really finished something properly and I am probably too big coward to try to get something published :) I just don´t seem to have the time. I am on a sick leave now, that´s why I spend most of my time at discussion boards :D But when I get back to work, I will have a little time to even watch some of my favourite shows (thanks God Grimm airs on Friday so I can see it as soon as possible) :)

The question about other Grimms will be hopefully answered soon. I think that feeling with other Grimms and try to protect them is not something Nick can choose - it´s in his genes, literally so he may at least hesitate. I am wondering if there were some disputes among Grimms in the past. We know that Wesen have their own "food chain", where are stronger and weaker but Grimms seem to be on the same level so I am curious how it works now, when there are not so many of them left.
I think there are Grimms in the US - Monroe and the other Wesen know Grimms and are afraid of them. Those maybe just stories they heard from their families that brought them from Europe but Marie and Kelly and their father and their grandmother obviously lived in the US. If there were others? Possibly. But from what was told, not many of them.

I can´t wait to get answers for these questions - and I am sure they will be answered - because it would all mean a big deal for Nick and Monroe and a big test for their friendship.

Hyndara71
September 29th, 2012, 05:53 PM
I had several stories published during the years, two of them by another major publisher, to be correct, I had my first published story launched there *iz a bit proud about that*. Mostly horror-stuff, where I originally came from before I joined the SG-fandom.
Work ... the endless story *sigh*. I'm not working fulltime - or at least not often. And I have to say I chooce my jobs after how many time I will have off there. I'm a fullblooded writer and when it comes hard to me I can at least writing down 15 - 20 sites a day. There's than not much time left for anything else. In the right mood I forget simply everything besides writing and the story I'm working on. That was something I had to learn the hard way but finally I accepted it *shrugs*. I cannot change myself, I tried one time too often to leave the storys behind, everytime they came back and I was more into the whole stuff than before. I'm not earning much money, true, I could earn much more, also true. But with the decision between a lousy, bad paid job but time to "work in the right job" or getting a good paid job but going slowly crazy ... well, I accepted this path. It's only kinda hard to explain to the agencies.

Mh, we'll see. I haven't seen something weird when it came to Kelly. He wasn't really protecting her, he was more about to protect Monroe and to separate them. About other Grimm ... I hope we will see others some day. After all the failed attempts with the Wesen maybe it's time for a Grimm to show up in Portland to try to get the key. That could be pretty interesting ...
I'm not sure, I have to say. Monroe stated in the Pilot that he'd never seen a Grimm before, like, besides the Hundjäger (and Ian? Not sure), everyone else. True, Grimm are rare these days, but I have the feeling that there aren't anymore around in the US, don't ask me why. It would be interesting to learn when the family Kessler came to America because I also have the feeling that it was AFTER WWII when the coins disappeared. So, maybe the family left Europe to hide and protect the coins or the key or both. I really would love to learn more about the other keys ...

Well, at least we will learn about it next weekend. Godness, I'm so looking forward to that ep! (also because I really love Jaime Ray Newman)

Klenotka
September 30th, 2012, 02:38 AM
I have a friend who is a professional writer and he is at the same job as me. It is not too time-consuming, but unfortunately, it´s not in my town so I spend 3 hours a day in the bus on the way to work and back home. So I get home really tired and I have really only free weekends. I am also one of those unsatisfied people because in 10 years, this is about 5th job I have.

Maybe Nick being the only Grimm in the US (OK, except his mother) is why Renard wants to keep him in Portland? As he said, Juliette keeps him there and I am not sure he would want to stay if she died. I doubt he is that attached to his work right now that he couldn´t leave.
I love how many potential stories there are for Grimm so I can´t wait to see them.

Jaime Ray Newman is my girl crush :D I am going to Leverage convention in London in November and she will be there so I look forward to it :)

Hyndara71
September 30th, 2012, 05:13 AM
:lol: Same here. I'm mostly getting tired very fast about my current job. But as I'm not so young anymore and finding a job is getting harder and harder for me I try my best to stay in the one I have now (besides the fact, that I only have to cross the street to be there - yeah, I'm lazy, I know :D).
I think I have nearly done everything when it comes down to publish, was for a (very) short time publisher myself, some more time editor and consultant, writer of course, critic ... but the only dream I ever had during my whole life was to become a real author and that one's ... *sighs* ... with the wrong friends gambling with your very life there can go wrong A LOT! At least I had to learn the hard way (once more) not to defend other people no matter whatever I may feel for them. Or, as my Mom always told me, there's only ONE person on this Earth which you can trust - and that's yourself. That's what I'm doing now and how I live - or try to live ;).

It would be a shame if Nick would leave Portland but I could understand why if Juliette had died or would die. I'm also thinking about the key and why Renard is staying in Portland himself. Remember that scene in season 1 when Nick try to figure out where the key-map could lead him to? He'd marked one or two locations. Maybe this hiding place IS there elsewhere and not in Europe and that's why Renard is staying there. As far as we know he's the only Royal in the US and I don't think he's managing the whole continent.

Oh yes, all this possibilities are great! That's what I love on that show too.

Envy you for meeting Jaime! I really love her acting, just watched that CSI:NY-ep she was in. To bad that they killed her off so fast :(. I would have loved to watch her during the whole ep and see her dieing the very last minute.

blueray
October 3rd, 2012, 10:39 AM
I accidently found this video its great lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutWk_J2TYc

Klenotka
October 3rd, 2012, 12:10 PM
That was hilarious "How we met..."...Monroe crashing through the window :lol:

Hyndara71
October 3rd, 2012, 12:33 PM
OMG, I'm still so laughing my ass off! That's hilarious!

Klenotka
October 6th, 2012, 03:49 AM
So many great moments in the last episode....I think Nick sitting next to Monroe´s bed was the best.

Hyndara71
October 28th, 2012, 03:46 AM
Looks like we will have a little bit of Nick/Monroe-friendship next Friday *hopeful*

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac88/Hyndara71/210_The_hour_of_Death/promo2.jpg

blueray
October 28th, 2012, 06:21 AM
I loved the scene in this past episode where Nick lends his weapon to Monroe to use as a decoration.

Hyndara71
October 28th, 2012, 06:30 AM
I loved the scene in this past episode where Nick lends his weapon to Monroe to use as a decoration.

Yeah, it was such a great scene! Am capping that right now :)

Klenotka
October 28th, 2012, 07:03 AM
As I wrote in the recap, this one little scene showed so much. How Nick and Monroe are VERY aware who the other one is, joke about it but still to be serious enough to know it´s difficult for the other one to deal with their family bloody histories (and their own inner struggle).

If it makes sense....;)

anaesthetic
November 11th, 2012, 03:11 PM
"Not so bad wolf" I like it! I feel so bad for Monroe after this latest episode.

blueray
November 11th, 2012, 06:17 PM
"Not so bad wolf" I like it! I feel so bad for Monroe after this latest episode.

me too. that would be a really hard position to be placed in the middle of. he obviously has to tell Nick, which would be hard to do.

mi_guard
November 12th, 2012, 02:36 AM
"Not so bad wolf" I like it! I feel so bad for Monroe after this latest episode.

I am lost: when/where was this 'not so bad wolf' in the last episode?

Hyndara71
November 12th, 2012, 03:12 AM
I am lost: when/where was this 'not so bad wolf' in the last episode?

I think it was relating to the opening post of this thread. There I'd written "the Grimm and his big, not so bad wolf".

Hyndara71
November 18th, 2012, 04:13 AM
BTS-shot from 2.12. Well, this chemistry is also there when you already SEE how they are working - at least in my opinion :)

http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac88/Hyndara71/212_season_of_the_hexenbiest/bts01.jpg

Klenotka
November 18th, 2012, 08:27 AM
It was great to see them together working again. Monroe doesn´t mind when Nick beats a crap out of people, Monroe helps Nick because he can see the bigger picture (they are here to kill us, so time for being a nice Grimm is over). Hank would probably protest and I am sure Nick will never tell him about this.

But it worries me that they had to put Hank to hospital to allow them to work together again. It looked like they weren´t sure how to make it work.
I think this arrangment - Nick moved to Monroe, so they can interact on daily basis, Monroe helping Nick in Grimm related stuff, is ideal.
Hank can be his police partner and deal with police matters, that will probably Wesen related but still police matters. The idea of having two partners (one official and one unofficial) used to work so I hope this sidelining Monroe for a couple of episodes was only a short period because they wanted to integrate Hank into the story.

Hyndara71
November 18th, 2012, 08:54 AM
Mh, I'm not completely sure after these interviews from David G. ... But maybe the "leaving the precinct" is after he'd beaten up Renard and is suspended for some time *hopeful*.

Klenotka
November 18th, 2012, 10:03 AM
As I understand it, Nick goes to do the Grimm stuff in his free time. I think it would be very demanding and it would probably show some effects on him. I don´t know...they still probably want to keep the procedural story intact. I am not sure why, since people love mostly non-procedural part - even with some very fun and interesting stories, I think they should focus more on the mythology of the Grimm/Wesen world now.

Hyndara71
November 18th, 2012, 10:23 AM
That's true, but without Nick losing his job, please! I have to admit I like the badge and how he wears the weapon :D. True, they could focus the "monster of the week" more in his free time (just as you said, I'm not sure if Hank would had let him do what he'd done with Monroe to fight the Hundsjäger). So, I think they maybe will give him some ... well, spare time after his fight with Sean (which IS coming) so he himself can manage his new life at Monroe's, probably (hopeful) move the trailer somewhere else and maybe calm down a bit. I see them both do Pilates doing :lol:. Maybe Monroe is a kind of very ... uhm strict roomate, we'll see ...
What makes me really curious are two things:
1. What will happen to Renard after they both fought.
2. What about Rosalee and how will she react when sie noticed that Nick is now staying at Monroe's?
Saying this a third question comes to my mind:
3. How will Nick react when he finally notice Monrosalee? I don't think he's really aware of the romantic path his friend is now on *snickers*. And I have a scene in mind when Nick comes "home" from work to find Monroe and Rosalee kissing on Monroe's couch. I think this could hurt him again after the break with Juliette just happened.

Klenotka
November 18th, 2012, 12:10 PM
I believe that him and Nick will be allies. Maybe temorarily but I don´t believe Renard is really bad. I think he follows his own goals, yes. He manipulated Nick, wants to get to power but who knows what he wants to do with the key? Maybe to prevent the other families to get it first? I think they both need to put aside their differences and work together. I think it would be great to watch - the dynamics of the show and their relationship will certainly change. Even now, when they both know what is going on - like with Adelind - they lie to each other without blinking an eye (it is little concerning, btw., how easily Nick learnt to lie) and dance around each other with vague answers. If they could be honest - at least a little, it could help. Nick is not an ordinary Grimm and I think it will come to bite him eventually and Renard´s help could be useful. And vice versa.

I think Nick staying with Monroe has a great funny and dramatic potential...mostly funny :D I can see them driving each other crazy.
Nick is not exactly a peaceful type...trouble follows him and Monroe has his own schedule (however, a schedule that keeps him under control - maybe Nick should try it as well). So imagine Nick coming from work at 3:00 A.M (or from some Wesen hunt, who knows :)), only to wake up Monroe or make a mess in a kitchen or a shower or something :D Monroe is not used to have people around, as we saw with Hap. He is very strict so it could be fun to watch.
I think Rosalee may be a little worried that it will draw unnecessary attention to Monroe (especially after what happened last time when Monroe had to "die" in order to survive) but I think she will get over it. Nick is her friend, too and I believe she will be very sympathetic to his situation.
As for Nick noticing Monrosalee - well, he probably takes them sort of as a "couple" anyway. Look how fast he accepted that when he calls Rosalee or Monroe, the other will be present as well. I think he is just too busy and worried to study it closer but it can be funny to see him avoiding them in their romantic moments. And also a little heartbreaking, considering the situation with Juliette.
But I think at the end of the season, Nick will end up in his trailer anyway :D

Hyndara71
November 18th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Or the trailer is ending up in Monroe's backyard ;)

blueray
November 18th, 2012, 05:50 PM
Or the trailer is ending up in Monroe's backyard ;)

lol that would be great.

I imagine that they will have some issues mainly with Monroe's retine. but I think they'll work it out :)