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GateWorld
August 16th, 2011, 02:52 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 401</FONT>
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After the Warehouse is destroyed the team travel across the world to find a powerful artifact capable of turning back time, putting them up against a dangerous brotherhood sworn to protect it.

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lordofseas
July 23rd, 2012, 08:45 PM
Interesting beginnings. Claudia obviously walking out with the metronome. And HG is staying. Goody.

mandogater
July 23rd, 2012, 10:37 PM
Intersesting. I wonder what over lingering after effects we'll see. I kind of like the idea of Claudia going Dark Side. I wonder how long they'll drag that out.

MIZA
July 23rd, 2012, 10:50 PM
I don't like that they are making Claudia dark :(

I hope it is something short and quick of the story line

Spimman
July 24th, 2012, 05:56 AM
While I love Warehouse 13 I found this episode predictable and too jumpy. It was just too easy to pop in and steal these long hidden artifacts and save the day. Also, I wish they would leave HG dead for once (not a fan).

That being said I like that this plotline with be Artie centered. Whatever the darkness that was created is, it will focus on Artie and likely he'll be the one to take it down. Artie is cool!

LtColCarter
July 24th, 2012, 11:16 AM
Watching the episode...and wow...they're dropping like flies.

LtColCarter
July 24th, 2012, 11:34 AM
Good first episode. I'm not sure about Claudia going rogue. It depends on how TPTB handle it.

jelgate
July 24th, 2012, 11:53 AM
I can buy it if the reason stays with dealing with Jinks. She was very attached to him. It tramuatized her to see him dead like that

aretood2
July 24th, 2012, 02:15 PM
I wasn't expecting her reaction to be that strong, but it does make sense, though I am worried about that dream thingy with Claudia stabbing Artie. I hope they don't overdue her story line and avoid actually stabbing Artie. I agree with spim, Artie centric is the right way to start the season.

mandogater
July 24th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Good first episode. I'm not sure about Claudia going rogue. It depends on how TPTB handle it.

I have to agree with you, LtColCarter. If the Darth Claudia storyline gets drawn out too much it'll get old real quick. However, from the teaser, I'm betting it gets wrapped up in the next episode or two.

aretood2
July 24th, 2012, 05:36 PM
I have to agree with you, LtColCarter. If the Darth Claudia storyline gets drawn out too much it'll get old real quick. However, from the teaser, I'm betting it gets wrapped up in the next episode or two.

What if it is to throw us off and make us think she's the terrible evil that Artie has unleashed when in reality it is something else just waiting and festering until it finally builds up and delivers a cliff hanger at the end of the first batch of episodes this season? :eek: I wouldn't put it past these writers to do such a thing. Oh, and HG Wells is starting to become a female Daniel Jackson.

mandogater
July 24th, 2012, 05:51 PM
What if it is to throw us off and make us think she's the terrible evil that Artie has unleashed when in reality it is something else just waiting and festering until it finally builds up and delivers a cliff hanger at the end of the first batch of episodes this season? :eek: I wouldn't put it past these writers to do such a thing. Oh, and HG Wells is starting to become a female Daniel Jackson.

You are right. Claudia going rogue could just be a red herring to distract us. Something could just as easily happen with HG or Leena again. TPTB could even change it up more and have Pete or Myka being warped by an artifact. Heck, with Mrs. F. sporting some gray now, it could be a sign her connection to the warehouse is weakening making her open to massive mistakes or even corruption by a dark artifact. Anything is possible with these writers.

MIZA
July 24th, 2012, 07:50 PM
You are right. Claudia going rogue could just be a red herring to distract us. Something could just as easily happen with HG or Leena again. TPTB could even change it up more and have Pete or Myka being warped by an artifact. Heck, with Mrs. F. sporting some gray now, it could be a sign her connection to the warehouse is weakening making her open to massive mistakes or even corruption by a dark artifact. Anything is possible with these writers.


Wow that is very interesting I didn't even think about that ?

But something that just seems weird to me and I am sure others have thought this too?

If Claudia brings jinks back to life and everything is going to go on hunky dory ! She and jinks will go back to artifact hunting ?! Like nothing happened ? Why is she basically destroying her relationship with everyone else just to save jinks with an artifact ?
Yeah I agree ,I hope they wrap the story line with her and jinks really quick ! maybe they have much closer?............

aretood2
July 24th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Wow that is very interesting I didn't even think about that ?

But something that just seems weird to me and I am sure others have thought this too?

If Claudia brings jinks back to life and everything is going to go on hunky dory ! She and jinks will go back to artifact hunting ?! Like nothing happened ? Why is she basically destroying her relationship with everyone else just to save jinks with an artifact ?
Yeah I agree ,I hope they wrap the story line with her and jinks really quick ! maybe they have much closer?............

I don't think Claudia is thinking logically right now, not in that way at least. Who would?

jelgate
July 24th, 2012, 07:57 PM
Claudia rarelly thinks logically. She may be a genius but she is always too emotional

mandogater
July 24th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Wow that is very interesting I didn't even think about that ?

But something that just seems weird to me and I am sure others have thought this too?

If Claudia brings jinks back to life and everything is going to go on hunky dory ! She and jinks will go back to artifact hunting ?! Like nothing happened ? Why is she basically destroying her relationship with everyone else just to save jinks with an artifact ?
Yeah I agree ,I hope they wrap the story line with her and jinks really quick ! maybe they have much closer?............

One way or another, I think Claudia will be in big trouble after they get her head straightened out. She is not thinking clearly at all.

MIZA
July 25th, 2012, 01:02 AM
One way or another, I think Claudia will be in big trouble after they get her head straightened out. She is not thinking clearly at all.


Why not ? I keep thinking that she and jinks are a lot closer ? Yeah I know the character is gay

Spimman
July 25th, 2012, 08:19 AM
What if it is to throw us off and make us think she's the terrible evil that Artie has unleashed when in reality it is something else just waiting and festering until it finally builds up and delivers a cliff hanger at the end of the first batch of episodes this season? :eek: I wouldn't put it past these writers to do such a thing. Oh, and HG Wells is starting to become a female Daniel Jackson.


You are right. Claudia going rogue could just be a red herring to distract us. Something could just as easily happen with HG or Leena again. TPTB could even change it up more and have Pete or Myka being warped by an artifact. Heck, with Mrs. F. sporting some gray now, it could be a sign her connection to the warehouse is weakening making her open to massive mistakes or even corruption by a dark artifact. Anything is possible with these writers.

This makes a lot of sense, and I kind of like this idea! :)

mandogater
July 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Why not ? I keep thinking that she and jinks are a lot closer ? Yeah I know the character is gay

Not entirely sure I'm following you but like Myka, Pete and Artie tried to tell her, you will always loose people you love. Close friends and family will always die and there is nothing you can do about it.

Using an artifact to bring them back is not only cheating but who knows what the downside of said artifact could be. They may not be the same person when you bring them back.

Of course since one of my grandfathers died in front of me when I was three may have made me way to practical about this.

mandogater
July 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
This makes a lot of sense, and I kind of like this idea! :)

We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully we'll enjoy the ride. *crosses fingers*

Skydiver
July 25th, 2012, 06:16 PM
but what if what she brings back isn't jinks??? meaning he's too damaged

what if the greatest evil that artie creates is claudia reviving jinks?
Although I think the greatest evil is artie's secret that he can't tell anyone, the pressure and stress and self-doubt.

mandogater
July 25th, 2012, 08:40 PM
but what if what she brings back isn't jinks??? meaning he's too damaged

what if the greatest evil that artie creates is claudia reviving jinks?
Although I think the greatest evil is artie's secret that he can't tell anyone, the pressure and stress and self-doubt.

Never did think about that, Skydiver. Either one could be correct.

the fifth man
July 25th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Pretty nice start to the season. My wife and I are just glad to have this show back. It should be quite interesting to see just how dark they choose to go with Claudia.

MIZA
July 26th, 2012, 01:38 AM
Not entirely sure I'm following you but like Myka, Pete and Artie tried to tell her, you will always loose people you love. Close friends and family will always die and there is nothing you can do about it.

Using an artifact to bring them back is not only cheating but who knows what the downside of said artifact could be. They may not be the same person when you bring them back.

Of course since one of my grandfathers died in front of me when I was three may have made me way to practical about this.


I just find it strange , I know it is weird to say this , but the fact that Claudia cares too much ??
So I am just curious about there relationship

Skydiver
July 26th, 2012, 04:18 AM
I also think artie and the gang leaving claudia behind will be a plot point. She did give them permission, but maybe something happened to her while they were going. Maybe there was another artifact in there that messed with her which is what made her so pushy?

MIZA
July 26th, 2012, 06:09 AM
I also think artie and the gang leaving claudia behind will be a plot point. She did give them permission, but maybe something happened to her while they were going. Maybe there was another artifact in there that messed with her which is what made her so pushy?


That's is a little far fetched I think? I just wonder why Claudia cares that much to sacrifice her life for Jinks she barely knows him

jelgate
July 26th, 2012, 04:00 PM
I don't see how leaving Claudia behind will make an impact since time has reversed from that ever happening

mandogater
July 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM
I just find it strange , I know it is weird to say this , but the fact that Claudia cares too much ??
So I am just curious about there relationship

I think I see where you are coming from now. The fact that she has never really had a family since she was very young could make her a bit obsessive about taking care of the one she has at the Warehouse. From that point of view her actions make sense to me. Misguided but understandable.

Ian-S
July 27th, 2012, 07:57 AM
She's just turned into an everyday bunny boiler, she'll be right as rain in no time.

Was that Brent Spiner's only guest slot? or does he come back at some point down the line? First thing I said when I saw him on screen was shout DATA! to which I got very blank looks from everybody else in the room.

LtColCarter
July 27th, 2012, 11:11 AM
I've been seeing previews with Claudia next to a purple looking Jinks using the metronome.

SGalisa
July 27th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Is anyone forgetting what Claudia said in a threatening tone to Artie, before they all went to France?
That "this isn't over"... and that she will finish what she started out to do. :eek:
Would that little conversation have anything to do with the current timeline and events thereof?
..just wondering.. ;)

Livestick
July 27th, 2012, 08:14 PM
Is anyone forgetting what Claudia said in a threatening tone to Artie, before they all went to France?
That "this isn't over"... and that she will finish what she started out to do. :eek:
Would that little conversation have anything to do with the current timeline and events thereof?
..just wondering.. ;)

That coversation was part of the timeline that got erased when Artie went back in time, so it never happened for her. But I think she would probably still have that mindset of "I'm bringing Steve back and no one is going to stop me." The conversation itself probably doesn't have much relevance, but her mindset does.

mandogater
July 27th, 2012, 08:21 PM
She's just turned into an everyday bunny boiler, she'll be right as rain in no time.

Was that Brent Spiner's only guest slot? or does he come back at some point down the line? First thing I said when I saw him on screen was shout DATA! to which I got very blank looks from everybody else in the room.

A little OT, but the same thing happened to me when I watched Independence Day in the theater.

DemosCat
July 28th, 2012, 07:20 PM
Most posts here seem to assume it's Claudia who's going dark. But what if it's Artie who has gone dark instead? Artie's dream is going to be from Artie's point of view - hapless Artie being chased down by a determined Claudia.

That grim look on Claudia's face... how would you look if you had to stop someone you've looked up to as a mentor, friend and father figure? Is Claudia really going after Artie with a knife, or is that a delusion on Artie's part?

NumberSix
July 29th, 2012, 10:38 AM
Using an artifact to bring them back is not only cheating but who knows what the downside of said artifact could be. They may not be the same person when you bring them back.

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I'm wondering if that might be the case with Jinks, that he won't be quite "right." Makes me think of that Stephen King book Pet Sematary.



Most posts here seem to assume it's Claudia who's going dark. But what if it's Artie who has gone dark instead? Artie's dream is going to be from Artie's point of view - hapless Artie being chased down by a determined Claudia.

That grim look on Claudia's face... how would you look if you had to stop someone you've looked up to as a mentor, friend and father figure? Is Claudia really going after Artie with a knife, or is that a delusion on Artie's part?

I wondered too if that scene isn't Claudia going after Artie for revenge but instead to stop him or something that takes over him. The knife didn't look like an ordinary kitchen knife either. Was it the same one used on Brent Spiner's character? (can't remember his name)

Good start to the season. Glad to see HG back. Mrs. F. knows something's wrong. Will be interesting to see what she does.
Pete's death which now hasn't happened was nicely done. Him asking Artie if he'd remember it and the way Artie said, "no, but I will."

mandogater
July 29th, 2012, 04:37 PM
I'm wondering if that might be the case with Jinks, that he won't be quite "right." Makes me think of that Stephen King book Pet Sematary.

I wondered too if that scene isn't Claudia going after Artie for revenge but instead to stop him or something that takes over him. The knife didn't look like an ordinary kitchen knife either. Was it the same one used on Brent Spiner's character? (can't remember his name)

Good start to the season. Glad to see HG back. Mrs. F. knows something's wrong. Will be interesting to see what she does.
Pete's death which now hasn't happened was nicely done. Him asking Artie if he'd remember it and the way Artie said, "no, but I will."

From the teaser, I think we'll find out about Claudia and Jinks, tomorrow night. Hopefully my new job won't have me so tired that I sleep through it. *Crosses fingers*

Claudia was using the same dagger as Spiner's character. I never thought about it that way, NumberSix.

It will be interesting to see if Mrs. F. puts the pieces together before the year is out.

Ian-S
August 1st, 2012, 05:13 PM
A little OT, but the same thing happened to me when I watched Independence Day in the theater.

I bet you got even stranger looks than I did considering he looked like a hippy in ID :lol:

WingedPegasus
August 3rd, 2012, 12:46 PM
Have I mentioned how awesome it is that Claudia made a Galaxy Quest reference? :D

"Never give up, never surrender!" :P

mandogater
August 3rd, 2012, 04:15 PM
I bet you got even stranger looks than I did considering he looked like a hippy in ID :lol:

Yah. An older couple turned around and looked at me funny. I then heard the husband explain what I said to his wife.

stargatefan234
September 6th, 2012, 02:18 PM
The episode has just aired in the UK


Claudia obviously walking out with the metronome. And HG is staying. Goody.

Agreed on both counts


I don't like that they are making Claudia dark :(

I hope it is something short and quick of the story line


You are right. Claudia going rogue could just be a red herring to distract us. Something could just as easily happen with HG or Leena again.

agreed, perhaps the evil will possess Claudia towards the end. Or as Mandogater says it could be a red herring (my moneys on the rouge bird)


If Claudia brings jinks back to life and everything is going to go on hunky dory ! She and jinks will go back to artifact hunting ?! Like nothing happened ? Why is she basically destroying her relationship with everyone else just to save jinks with an artifact ?


Close friends and family will always die and there is nothing you can do about it.

Using an artifact to bring them back is not only cheating but who knows what the downside of said artifact could be. They may not be the same person when you bring them back.

she's lost someone whom she loves like a brother and there is something she can do about it, so as said, she's not thinking logically, but its completely understandable.

Cause she told Jinx about the mental institution but she never told Todd.

Im sure she will be punished (by the artifact) for her actions


but what if what she brings back isn't jinks??? meaning he's too damaged

what if the greatest evil that artie creates is claudia reviving jinks?
Although I think the greatest evil is artie's secret that he can't tell anyone, the pressure and stress and self-doubt.

I dont think so. I think Claudia would have bought jinx back even if the warehouse didnt blow up and the whole "evil creation" thing never happened. but maybe Artie will make it worse, rather than the act of resurrection.


That's is a little far fetched I think? I just wonder why Claudia cares that much to sacrifice her life for Jinks she barely knows him

even though they've only know about a year (one season) she considers him a "BFFEWYLION" (Best Friend For Ever Whether You Like It Or Not)


Most posts here seem to assume it's Claudia who's going dark. But what if it's Artie who has gone dark instead? Artie's dream is going to be from Artie's point of view - hapless Artie being chased down by a determined Claudia.

That grim look on Claudia's face... how would you look if you had to stop someone you've looked up to as a mentor, friend and father figure? Is Claudia really going after Artie with a knife, or is that a delusion on Artie's part?

OMG Artie's evil could be forcing Claudia to kill him, and having her have to live with it forever after she takes over from miss Fredric (if she does)

Overall, a good episode.